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2.0 PDI DSG and mpg ?

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Hello, I have just about covered 3000m from new in my L & K estate and am wondering what mpg others are getting. On previous cars I have always managed to better the specified mpg figures but on my L&K I am only getting 43.5, consistently on 5 full tanks (measured brim-brim, not from the maxidat). I only do long trips (40 mile commutes on motorway at 65-75). I was expecting at least 50mpg from this car.

How do you accelerate briskly into traffic ? With the DSG getting into gaps at roundabouts is v. difficult and I have to wait for bigger gaps than my previous car (RAV4 diesel with manual gearbox) However I push the accelerator the car hesitates for at least half a second, then pulls away leasurely for another half second. After that it decides to take notice of the accelerator position and rapidly accelerates with the risk of ramming the back of the car in front unless I lift off / brake quickly. With a manual gearbox you give the engine extra revs and slip the clutch up to your required speed. I have tried using the S position but it makes v. little difference to the first second of acceleration, just holds the gears longer.

we've got two cars with this engine/box in the household, an OctyII and a Golf mkV and both average around 45-48mpg, if I 'make progress' on a motorway I can get a journey average down to 42/43 and on a gentle poodle round the contryside I can easily get mid 50s - these engines do take about 10-12k miles to settle in (and some can use a LOT of oil during this period) but after that mileage they tend to be bedded in and give better mpg and use less oil ;)

You are not alone, I too had issues with the pick up on the dsg 2.0 tdi not l&k but have since learnt how to drive it better, if you try and drive very smoothly it helps, and the manual setting is more responsive. I get max 47mpg if driving softly and 40 mpg if driving harder. Keep with the DSG , onc you get used to it it is a fine piece of kit.

Hello, I have just about covered 3000m from new in my L & K estate and am wondering what mpg others are getting. On previous cars I have always managed to better the specified mpg figures but on my L&K I am only getting 43.5, consistently on 5 full tanks (measured brim-brim, not from the maxidat). I only do long trips (40 mile commutes on motorway at 65-75). I was expecting at least 50mpg from this car.

How do you accelerate briskly into traffic ? With the DSG getting into gaps at roundabouts is v. difficult and I have to wait for bigger gaps than my previous car (RAV4 diesel with manual gearbox) However I push the accelerator the car hesitates for at least half a second, then pulls away leasurely for another half second. After that it decides to take notice of the accelerator position and rapidly accelerates with the risk of ramming the back of the car in front unless I lift off / brake quickly. With a manual gearbox you give the engine extra revs and slip the clutch up to your required speed. I have tried using the S position but it makes v. little difference to the first second of acceleration, just holds the gears longer.

This makes interesting reading for me as I am considering either a 2.0PD DSG L&K or a TFSI vRS as my next company car.

Don't like the sound of the "lurching" away at roundabouts and the fuel consumption I would have thought would be better.

I have a friend who has an A3 Sportback with the 2.0TDI and DSG box, he hasn't complained of this issue and I know something like this would really bug him.

He has done approx 40k and the issue he has is that the DSG can sometimes cause the engine to labour as it is keen to change up so often he ends up using the paddles behind the wheel to control the gears.

I wonder if the electronic mapping on the throttle is different on the A3 and the Octy.

On the fuel consumption side it appears as though the PD's have a larger variability in what people can achieve compared to the TFSI in the vRS.

John

It does not lurch, its a great gearbox, take one for a spin and see what you think.

The engine will continue to get more efficient as you pile on the miles. 3000 is not that much. Have you tried changing gears yourself to make faster changes? the DSG is more than just an automatic.

When I do a lot of short journeys in mine I only get about 36mpg, with a few longer ones included it only goes up to about 38mpg. The best I have had on mainly long runs is 45mpg but I do generally hang around.

If I need to get into traffic quickly I find using Sport or Manual mode is quite slick - in Manual you do not have to remember to change up as the electronics will still do that for you if you forget to do it yourself and once on the roll you can just snick it back into full auto.

I have the hatch version , I have done just over 6k miles and average about 44.6 on the readout although I have noticed it edging up recently.

Yes the car is a bit slow to pick up from rest , I think you need to plant the acclerator more than you would expect for the first second or so and then ease off as the turbo comes in. Its just a bit of adjustment really.

I own the same car and have done around 150 miles today an averaged 58mpg. I must admit tho I am a very steady motorway driver. Never really going over 70mph. Evan knocking about local I get 48mpg:) . Must be the way you drive lol. Or is it because I have fitted 2 magnets to the fuel lines just after the fuel filter? I did this because I read that Audi were experimenting with magnetic fuel lines as it ionises the fuel giving a better mpg. I used to have a magnet called a green pilot, but I left it on a car:( . So I searched ebay and found a guy selling strong magnets plastic coated in the shape of 2 U`s which just tie wrap around the fuel line. So I bought a couple and noticed better mpg almost straight away.

................................litres........gall ons......miles.............mpg

Sainsbury ................234.49........51.59........2568.30 .............49.78

Sainsbury + Millers.....129.33........28.46........1371.40.... .........48.19

Esso.........................52.01.........11.44.. ........591.20.............51.66

Esso + Millers..........40.26.........8.86............443 .50.............50.07

Asda........................79.43.........17.48... .......887.40.............50.78

Asda + Millers..........53.15.........11.69..........589. 40.............50.40

I put these figures on another thread.

At the time, the engine was getting a little more loose as it has had it's first oil level warning and was at 6700 miles and about 9 weeks old.

Just coming up to the 10K mark, sadly I have more figures :o

The engine does not look ready for the Millers at this point either, shall save that for a rainy day....

Car now done 46K in 2 years, loosened up nicely: averaging 52.73mpg mixed driving, NOT using the computer, but based on actual fuel purchased against miles done. This mileage is mostly motorway, with some A road and very little urban. CC set to 72 mph on M-Way (yes, lane 1!!!!) except when needing to steam past blockages, when the occasional "illegal" speed is needed. A roads vary according to posted limits and traffic conditions. Speeds are taken from GPS, NOT speedo, which is wildly inaccurate (over-reading). Max speed achieved on speedo (can't see GPS at that speed) was in excess of double the legal M-Way speed limit for cars. This is on a 2.0 TDi DSG with a bit of Jabba sport work...... yes, it can be done with a DSG, it works!!!!!!

As for the lack of control pulling away from a standing start, especially at roundabouts, do as someone else said: use the manual option: far more control. I am lazy, and just tend to make allowances for the known issue...... a minor flaw in an otherwise excellent engine/gearbox combination. Yes, you DO get the same issue on VWs with the same set-up: I've tried it! Stick with it: your economy WILL improve!!!!!:thumbup:

Mine has now done 41k miles (in having DSG oil change today), and the consumption varies enormously depending on what I'm up to. I tend to set the cruise at 70 on the Satnav on Motorways, and I can get very good consumption that way. However, on A and B roads it tends to drop quite significantly.

Mine is also a bit slow to pick up at roundabouts etc, usually when you don't stop completely and want to accelerate. I must admit I can't be bothered using manual mode, so I just leave a bigger gap! Think it's just a 'feature' to get used to. My previous car was a manual TDI Superb, and if you came up to a junction in 2nd, saw it was clear and planted the throttle you got much the same reaction before the turbo kicked in (as I learned in a buttock clenching moment one afternoon :rolleyes: )

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