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Scout 'review' from The Independent on Sunday

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An interesting opinion, although it's not a review more his personal musings on his observations.

He has tried to write in the style of JC and just made it sound very caustic.

"But sadly, neither am I Jeremy Clarkson (if I were, I would have won Motoring Correspondent of the Year that time, and not him, and I would be the megastar billionaire with Emmies, Aston Martins and American TV contracts sticking out of every orifice, although thank the Lord I don't dwell on it too much)"

Yeah, you don't dwell on it....:rolleyes:

"Why would you want to pretend your car is an off-roader, when it is no such thing? Something tells me the kind of men who would buy a Scout could also convince themselves that abnormally long strands of ear pubes, if placed with strategic precision over their forehead, count as a full head of hair"

I wasn't aware it was marketed as an off-roader in any way. It doesn't even look like one. As for the ear hair, I'd like to see anyone prove this is physically possible. I am 29 and bought a Scout because I liked the form of the overall package. It was my opinion that it looks quite nice. I can see why the car was put into production and I know what is appealing about it.

He also has his info wrong;

The RRP is stated as £14,420 when it's acutally £14,070. The comparison with the Renault kangoo is hilarious as to get a similar specced Kangoo (As close as you can get with a massive 84 bhp, 14" weels and a crap stereo) would cost £15145.

The increased ride height which is minimal anyway doesn't have a massive effect on the body roll. The Scout a is a massive 10kg heavier than the 3 which considering it comes as standard with ESP (Which the 3 doesn't) and roofbars means the plastic bumpers don't add a lot at all.

Obviously I am biased but based on his review I wouldn't use this guys work to wipe my a55 with, this is a truely awful piece of work and I am surprised the Indepentant give him space, this awful writing belongs in one of those free papers you get full of adverts. I hope journalism isn't his day job. He can keep on dreaming about that Motoring Correspondent of the Year award because last time I looked they didn't give it to muppets.

Lol, well I'm 25 and I bought my Scout because I like the looks, the spec and the fact I can fit my bike in the back.

Comparisons with the Kangoo are indeed ridiculous.

I hate stupid reviews like this. Embarrasingly Whatcar's review of the Scout was similar, I am in fact not even sure Whatcar drove the Scout because it had a number of incorrect facts in the article and the picture of the dash was actually of a Roomster 3.

I don't give a rats what this smoker from the telegraph thinks, haven't even read the report.

For the record I'm 34 married with a 1 year old son and the car fits my life style perfectly. Last Friday the car coped with 2 babies, three adults, 1 stroller, 1 pram and all the required bits and pieces for a day out. Those who have kids know how much stuff that can be :) also the rear seats were in boot space pinching mode.

One thing the huge tailgate makes for an excellent shelter from the rain whilst loading the boot..

Over and out.

Des

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48, married, no kids, 2 West Highlant terriers, no comb-over.

Scouts Rule

Kangpoo.......................Ha!

Comparisons with the Kangoo seem pretty accurate to me! Where are you looking?

Think I would sooner have a Citroen Berlingo Hdi than a Roomster, at least they are cheap. I really don't know what Skoda were thinking.

...............Waits for the backlash!

Ok, I may have been a bit hasty about the Berlingo bit, however could someone please explain to me how a short high car can be better than say a Fabia or a Fabia estate? I am missing the point somewhere.

...............Waits for the backlash!

Glad to oblige.

Comparisons with the Kangoo seem pretty accurate to me! Where are you looking?

Uhhh, the Renoo website, Perhaps you should look in the really obvious places before commenting. I was actually a few quid out, but it does get away from the fact the Kangoo is a poverty spec motor even in it's plush trim. Electric windows are an option :eek: This is the closest spec I can find to a Scout and to be honest it still falls well

short;

Kangoo Expression dCi 84

£12,315

Colour: Cosmic Grey

£360

Options:

Outdoor Pack

- Roof Bars

- Extra Tinted Glass In Rear Windows And Tailgate With Heat Reflecting Screen

£400

Electric Front Windows (One-Touch)

£125

Front Lateral Airbags

£200

Roof Bars

£150

14" Alloy Wheels

£500

Extra Tinted Glass In Rear Windows And Tailgate With Heat Reflecting Screen

£300

Air Conditioning

£525

TOTAL OPTIONS

£2,275

Note: Items in italics are selected automatically because of other selections you have made.

TOTAL PRICE

£14,950

Think I would sooner have a Citroen Berlingo Hdi than a Roomster, at least they are cheap. I really don't know what Skoda were thinking.

Cheap? You don't know what you're thinking either by the looks of it..... Ok, round two.

Berlingo Multispace 1.6HDi 92hp Desire

* Basic Price: £ 12,455

* Options: £ 950

*

o Air conditioning with heat reflecting windscreen £ 600

o 'Estoril' 15" alloy wheels (set of 4) £ 350

* Exterior colour: Arctic Steel metallic £ 350

* Interior trim: Blue 'Pianni' cloth £ 0

* Accessories (inc. VAT) £ 214

*

o Alarm £ 186

o Alloy Wheel Locking Bolt Kit £ 28

Total; £ 13,969

The Scout comes with all that as standard + a lot more...

I couldn't find the "Random electical faults" or "Spend more time at the dealer than being driven" options for either vehicle which means they must be standard like all other french cars :rolleyes:

The Citroen is better equipped than the Kangoo as standard, but both fall well short of the Scout in several departments. I could elaorate on it much more but being as you put no effort at all into making sure you comments were valid then Ill let you find out the rest :P

Feel free to come back when you have something tangible to contribute.

Ahh what have we here.....

Ok, I may have been a bit hasty about the Berlingo bit

Yup...

however could someone please explain to me how a short high car can be better than say a Fabia or a Fabia estate? I am missing the point somewhere.

Finally, we have some understanding as yes you are really missing the point! They do completely different things as they are two completely different cars. It depends on the persons individual needs. I used want a small fast super mini, so I bought one. Now I want a nice safe practical useful vehicle that I can use for work as well as the family. You get A LOT of car for your money.

For some people a Fabia would be better because the don't need the space, for others it's a need thing. You ever try getting a baby seat in the bac of a Fabia? It's possible but not easy to do every day. The Octavia 2 isn't an option because they are largely too expensive and defeat the object and the Octavia 1 looks like a taxi...

Perhaps you should try driving one, it's exactly like driving a MK4 Golf PD 100 interms of handling and power. Because of the looks people get an impression of instability, which to be honest is unfounded. If you want a sweet handling car, go out and buy an MX-5 and then get laughed at when you try to use it for every day things like shopping. I have a track car for getting my rocks off.

The Scout ticks all the boxes for a lot of people and it does it for less cash than pretty much anything else out there partly because it's so well loaded to start with. Go ahead and see if you can find anything to match the spec/performance etc for the same money....

We will be here waiting for you because if you can then that would be a truly amazing deal and it's something we should all know about.

However I doubt any of us will be holding our breath.

Nice comeback Decron :)

Having had a nose round them, even 'premium' mini mpvs like the Touran or CMax don't seem to have as much space in the back as a Roomster.

Why would anyone want to add a load of options to a Citroen Berlingo? It is basically a van with windows. I know someone with a 1.6HDi which they bought brand new with metallic paint for £9000 "ticks all the boxes for a lot of people and it does it for less cash than pretty much anything else out there" as for reliablility have you actually owned a Citroen? because the feedback I am reading about Skodas on here isn't too good! I don't know of any other brand new car with brakes that squeal like a MK1 vRS! The main dealers are not interested either. All I say is that variety is the spice of life, it would be very boring if we all drove the same type of car but if I were you I would print out your comments above as you will be needing them alot more in the future!

Rover streetwise springs to my mind!

Nice comeback Decron :)

Having had a nose round them, even 'premium' mini mpvs like the Touran or CMax don't seem to have as much space in the back as a Roomster.

Get yourself a van and put seats in the back if all your after is room! What type of room are we talking about legroom? bootspace? or height? Very handy if you are a family of giraffes!

Why would anyone want to add a load of options to a Citroen Berlingo? It is basically a van with windows. I know someone with a 1.6HDi which they bought brand new with metallic paint for £9000 "ticks all the boxes for a lot of people and it does it for less cash than pretty much anything else out there"

You haven't just missed one point, you have missed them all.

Quite clearly from what you have just indicated here the Citron Berlingo doesn't do the same things as a Roomster.

Also why would I want to own a Citroen? Here is the crack;

Top gear Survey 2006

4/152 - Ocatvia

5/152 - Fabia

7/152 - Supurb

111/152 - Citroen Berlingo

Yeah, something where I have to spec electric windows as an option is a real bargin in my books... It doesn't tick the boxes and the point was that for the money it doesn't either. That was made quite clear in my previous post

as for reliablility have you actually owned a Citroen? because the feedback I am reading about Skodas on here isn't too good! I don't know of any other brand new car with brakes that squeal like a MK1 vRS! The main dealers are not interested either.

Also, you on a Skoda forum where a lot of the people on here are going to post about issues they have with their skodas, thats whats it's for and your going to get a lot of negative views as people come here for solutions.

As for the MK1 VRS brakes, if the pads were fitted properly they wouldn't squeal. If the dealer doesn't care change dealer. If you want a real laugh at crap service buy a Peugot

You have also just tried to take the thread in a totally different direction without any reason or putting any substance into it.

Sorry, not interested.

All I say is that variety is the spice of life, it would be very boring if we all drove the same type of car

Umm thats great and yes it's a good point, but it still doesn't mean anything with respect to your original comments

but if I were you I would print out your comments above as you will be needing them alot more in the future!

Why? Are you actually going to say something that means something with respect to the thread?

Rover streetwise springs to my mind!

What does that have to do with anything?

Get yourself a van and put seats in the back if all your after is room! What type of room are we talking about legroom? bootspace? or height? Very handy if you are a family of giraffes!

What planet are you from? Your not Welshy using a different username are you? As I have said before, when you have something tangible to bring to the discussion then by all means put it on the table. If not then just be quiet and stop trolling.

cant beleive that reveiw either, and the comments about the kangoo are laughable! even the mulitspaces i used to sell were of better quality than those!!

i used to sell citroens and now driving a roomster is can say without doubt that the roomy wins hands down in everyway :D

citroens being more reliable than skodas?? pull the other one its got bits of citroen berlingo on it :D trust me they have come on a long way but its the finish that makes the difference. im sure someone did get a 1.6hdi for around 9k. probably the forte lower hp version. which hasnt even got AC or a cd player, and the engine is ruff and nowhere near as good as the roomy :) but then thats a different market to the scout.

i was out in the scout on the weekend and i had quite a number of various people looking around it asking questions. it was everyone from a surfer dude, to a guy that seemed to be selling large amounts of dodgy dvds!! ;)

for the record to im 28 without kids, but it fits 2 mountain bikes and various camping gear for when we go to car shows to show off the missus's car :D

Sorry, not interested

quote posted by Decron.

To say you are not interested you have put alot of time and effort into responding to my comments! I don't care how well researched your facts are it doesn't change my opinion of your car.

Only time will tell, lets see how many we see on the roads and thats the end of it!

As for topgear surveys you shouldn't believe everything you read or see on TV. I am sure there are Honda owners that have had problems and Citroen owners that have had none. I have had a fair bit of trouble with relatively new VWs.

Anyhow sorry to insult your pride and joy. If your happy with it thats all that matters.

Anyhow sorry to insult your pride and joy. If your happy with it thats all that matters.

You have a Fabia vRS? So the above comment may be a mistake.

Apparantly Rover also made a prototype Metro Scout 'back in the day'.

There's a story about it in today's Independent, strangely they refer to the Roomster Scout as "Lauded by the press for its sharp design and rough, tough detailing, Skoda's trendy new faux off-roader looks so right for now... " and "Was the ADC Scout ahead of its time, and its non-appearance a missed opportunity? Undoubtedly. Looking at what turns the practical Skoda Roomster into the funky Scout, it's hard to see how it can't be."

Strange considering it's the same newspaper which slated it 2 days before!

Link: ADC Scout: How Rover missed a trick - Independent Online Edition > Features

You have a Fabia vRS? So the above comment may be a mistake.

Actually I currently have both....

Apparantly Rover also made a prototype Metro Scout 'back in the day'.

There's a story about it in today's Independent, strangely they refer to the Roomster Scout as "Lauded by the press for its sharp design and rough, tough detailing, Skoda's trendy new faux off-roader looks so right for now... " and "Was the ADC Scout ahead of its time, and its non-appearance a missed opportunity? Undoubtedly. Looking at what turns the practical Skoda Roomster into the funky Scout, it's hard to see how it can't be."

Strange considering it's the same newspaper which slated it 2 days before!

Link: ADC Scout: How Rover missed a trick - Independent Online Edition > Features

Ahhh, another piece of brilliance from Rover.

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Ahhh, another piece of brilliance from Rover.

r6scout_10.jpg

Nice spy shots of the roomster there ;):rofl:

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