Just a quick question for the techie types and Police amongst you. Partly inspired by the fact that my next car will have run-flat tyres and partly by the fact I was thinking of going into the car theft game. So, if the Police use a stinger to try and stop a stolen car that is driving on run-flat tyres, will it have a noticeable effect on stopping the villain?

I guess he will lose some stability and probably wont be able to go too quickly, lest face losing the tyre altogether, but I expect he could exceed the max recommended speed of 50mph by quite a bit and keep going for many miles (150 miles @ 50mph if lightly laden is one spec for these tyres)

Pretty much as you say - they'll be able to keep going, but the tyres are more likely to disintegrate if they're stressed by speeds/change in direction/duration.

Good luck with the car theft lark anyway...

Rob.

Good luck with the car theft lark anyway...

Rob.

Well I did used to sell Micras and I may or may not know a trick or two about gaining access to them Rob:D

Re: Run-flat Tyres V Stingers??

Makes no difference once the chopper is above u lol

Unless you drive into restricted airspace or an underground car park

As far as I am aware, run flats only work over a certain distance under a certain speed. Over these speeds then the tyre will disintegrate.

Think of run flats as condoms. They can still work with holes in but won't last very long :p

be seeing you on Bravo soon then

You did order the 123d didn't you rather than just mark it in the dealer car park Amanda?

You did order the 123d didn't you rather than just mark it in the dealer car park Amanda?

Bet you Cheezemonkhai a lot of cars - but enough of this malarky

Well I did used to sell Micras and I may or may not know a trick or two about gaining access to them Rob:D

I thought Nissan did quite a good job on the security front of the Micra...I mean, just look at it, who's going to nick *that*?

Rob.

You did order the 123d didn't you rather than just mark it in the dealer car park Amanda?

Got a low loader ready for collection of it …………shhhhhhhh;)

I thought Nissan did quite a good job on the security front of the Micra...I mean, just look at it, who's going to nick *that*?

Rob.

Perhaps a myopic Fiat 500 wannabe:D

I know nothing, as you know. Can I ask a question about what we do over here re joyriders? I've seen those USA progs where there are many police vehicles following a joyrider who is on bare rims eventually after stingers, but are only allowed to follow behind, presumably for the safety of other car drivers or pedestrians. So that they (police) don't goad the idiot into doing something even more stupid that would endanger lives.

I can see that having a load of those conveniently situated garages where an instant colour change takes place in 5 mins would be useful though. Over here though, you'd probably make more money from renting out a garage than nicking a car

Mo

Think of run flats as condoms. They can still work with holes in but won't last very long :p

I hate getting stingers in my condoms!!!

To the best of my knowledge, "stingers" operate by having the spikes break off and they remain stuck in the tyre. The spikes are hollow and allow the air to escape gradually, rather than cause a catastrophic blow-out. I don't believe run-flat tyres can counteract the effects of a tube stuck through them.

So find an alternative career, car-theft and police chases won't work for you.

To the best of my knowledge, "stingers" operate by having the spikes break off and they remain stuck in the tyre. The spikes are hollow and allow the air to escape gradually, rather than cause a catastrophic blow-out. I don't believe run-flat tyres can counteract the effects of a tube stuck through them.

So find an alternative career, car-theft and police chases won't work for you.

I thought run flats work by having much stronger sidewalls, i.e strong enough to support the weight of the car, which is why ride comfort suffers.

So how will having the spikes stuck in the tread of the tyre effect them? :confused:

To the best of my knowledge, "stingers" operate by having the spikes break off and they remain stuck in the tyre. The spikes are hollow and allow the air to escape gradually, rather than cause a catastrophic blow-out. I don't believe run-flat tyres can counteract the effects of a tube stuck through them.

So find an alternative career, car-theft and police chases won't work for you.

Run flats don’t require air in them, otherwise they would not be run-flat (geddit?) the problem about exceeding the recommended speed limit is the internal friction and overheating of the tyre, thus leading to catastrophic failure.

Apparently, 'stingers' are useless against run flats - the police are currently investigating systems that tangle netting around the wheels instead but this will probably be a long way off.

Although saying that, if they do flatten your tyres I'm sure they'd be able to manage a 50mph pursuit

On a slightly broader note, anyone think it's possible to outrun the police (given that the all-seeing chopper takes several minutes to be scrambled if it's not already in the air) and there are a lot of cars out there quicker than police cars?

Chris

You could outrun a police car, especially a Panda, I think the trouble would be they can use communications that travel at the speed of light to get someone else in front of you:(. I’m glad people are thinking about helping me become a car thief:thumbup:

On a slightly broader note, anyone think it's possible to outrun the police (given that the all-seeing chopper takes several minutes to be scrambled if it's not already in the air) and there are a lot of cars out there quicker than police cars?

I seem to recall a Police Camera Action type show where there was a pursuit of an Evo and a Scooby, and the police helicopter struggled to maintain pace and had to leave the pursuit after an hour or so to refuel - both cars managed to evade the remaining ground pursuit. One of the cars was then picked up a few days later after having been used for a robbery...

Probably the exception rather than the rule, but yeah it's possible to do.

Rob.

I don’t know why I am joking about this:confused: as I’m getting the first nickable car I have had since my Scoobys, next month.