All I can say if Audi are getting this, I hope the Skoda vRS gets it too as mine will be up for sale then.

Audi is preparing a slew of almost a dozen new models over the next eighteen months – headlined by a new twin-turbo diesel-powered TT – and we’ve got lowdown on these key models that will, Audi hopes, make it the world’s best-selling premium motoring brand by 2015.

A diesel TT?

Indeed. Caught here undergoing initial cold-weather trials, this diesel TT mule even features a dash-mounted warning to remind the driver to refuel only with diesel. The TT will soon run Audi’s current 2.0-litre 170bhp – CAR’s sources claim Audi is prepping a twin-turbo version of its common rail diesel. Like BMW’s superb new biturbo diesel, the TT unit will feature a small responsive blower for instant throttle response at low revs, and then a bigger turbo for high-rev punch.

Expect at least 200bhp from the transversely-mounted four-cylinder unit, and a mighty 295lb ft of torque for a 0-60mph time of 6.5 seconds, a 145mph top speed and some serious in-gear go – not bad for something that should return around 40mpg in the real world. Audi is currently developing a new seven-speed S-tronic transmission to handle the engine’s massive torque as the current six-cog box has a threshold of 260lb ft, and naturally, the diesel TT will be quattro all-wheel-drive only. It should debut in early 2009 – probably at the Geneva motor show – and arrive here in the summer with a £28,000 price tag.

What about a TT with an RS badge?

You'll get that, and an S-version. Before the diesel TT arrives, Audi will unveil two hotter petrol-powered TT quattro models – the S and RS. The S will be officially launched in both coupe and roadster guise at the Detroit Motor Show in January, powered a heavily uprated version of Audi’s frisky turbo-charged 2.0-litre direct injection engine. Official outputs have yet to be announced, but our spies say expect at least 265bhp and a 258lb ft driving all-four wheels through six-speed manual or S-tronic double-clutch boxes. Expect a £33,000 price tag when it arrives here next summer.

The new diesel TT is coming, but with the 170hp lump, which is very disappointing

Official info just released the other day.

The TT Owners Club

Priced 1k more than the 2.0T in England, with Quattro but with 170hp.

Would have been so much better with the upcoming twin turbo 200hp unit, a real competitor for the new 123d performance wise (it beats it hands down on looks obviously )

Weight is also up from 1280kg in the 2.0T petrol to 1380kg for the diesel

I didn't think it will be long until VAG makes a 200hp diesel, after all they can't let BMW get away with it - in their latest 2.0D. Stunning performance & economy is just nuts, they are gonna have to go some though to meet its refinement.

BMW aren't the only one that are raising the bar with their diesel engines.

The Fiat/GM 1.9 TDI is now available as a 180bhp twin turbo version so it's inevitable that VW and Ford will follow.

As for what Skoda will get...

I'd bet on a twin turbo 2.0 CR TDI in the superb but not the octavia , though probably a higher output 2.0 TFSI in an Octavia VRS

The basic CR-TDI units will be what the Octavia gets. The CR170 for the vRS and a 140 bhp variant to replace the PD140.

The 105 will no doubt be replaced with the 1.6CR unit.

Maybe the 2 litre twin turbo unit will spell the end for the 2.7TDI unit if they develop the 3.0TDI into a twin turbo to comptete with the BMW x35D powerplant

200BHP is now the benchmark for performance diesels where it was 150BHP not too long ago.

All I can say if Audi are getting this, I hope the Skoda vRS gets it too as mine will be up for sale then.

Audi is preparing a slew of almost a dozen new models over the next eighteen months – headlined by a new twin-turbo diesel-powered TT – and we’ve got lowdown on these key models that will, Audi hopes, make it the world’s best-selling premium motoring brand by 2015.

A diesel TT?

Indeed. Caught here undergoing initial cold-weather trials, this diesel TT mule even features a dash-mounted warning to remind the driver to refuel only with diesel. The TT will soon run Audi’s current 2.0-litre 170bhp – CAR’s sources claim Audi is prepping a twin-turbo version of its common rail diesel. Like BMW’s superb new biturbo diesel, the TT unit will feature a small responsive blower for instant throttle response at low revs, and then a bigger turbo for high-rev punch.

Expect at least 200bhp from the transversely-mounted four-cylinder unit, and a mighty 295lb ft of torque for a 0-60mph time of 6.5 seconds, a 145mph top speed and some serious in-gear go – not bad for something that should return around 40mpg in the real world. Audi is currently developing a new seven-speed S-tronic transmission to handle the engine’s massive torque as the current six-cog box has a threshold of 260lb ft, and naturally, the diesel TT will be quattro all-wheel-drive only. It should debut in early 2009 – probably at the Geneva motor show – and arrive here in the summer with a £28,000 price tag.

What about a TT with an RS badge?

You'll get that, and an S-version. Before the diesel TT arrives, Audi will unveil two hotter petrol-powered TT quattro models – the S and RS. The S will be officially launched in both coupe and roadster guise at the Detroit Motor Show in January, powered a heavily uprated version of Audi’s frisky turbo-charged 2.0-litre direct injection engine. Official outputs have yet to be announced, but our spies say expect at least 265bhp and a 258lb ft driving all-four wheels through six-speed manual or S-tronic double-clutch boxes. Expect a £33,000 price tag when it arrives here next summer.

The new diesel TT is coming, but with the 170hp lump, which is very disappointing

Official info just released the other day.

The TT Owners Club

Priced 1k more than the 2.0T in England, with Quattro but with 170hp.

Would have been so much better with the upcoming twin turbo 200hp unit, a real competitor for the new 123d performance wise (it beats it hands down on looks obviously )

Weight is also up from 1280kg in the 2.0T petrol to 1380kg for the diesel

Howya,I have been told by Motor Dist. that the Vrs tdi will be available with DSG in the autumn of this year,I would assume it will be with the new CR diesels..........we live in hope!!

The Carjacked one will be so pleased to hear that

I can't remember where I saw it now but I saw a document which gives the week numbers when the cars begin build with the CR engine.

Is the CR unit going to be mapped to behave the same as the PD170 unit or can we expect an improved torque curve or similar?

The CR unit should be much quieter and smoother and available in vRS from May 08 build.

If VAG can get 170hp from a 1.4 with a supercharger and a turbo what could they do with their 1.8 and 2.0 engines?

.. erm 240 bhp+ (2.0 FSI-T)

1.4 = 170

so 121 bhp per litre

2 litre = 242 bhp

Chipped 2.0 FSI-T (or simply get a 30th Anniversary Golf or new TT to produce 240 to 265 bhp)

Which they comfortable do with just a Turbocharger.

The twin charger does not add any extra power, it just smooths the performance curve out. So that the higher power/torque is available over the entire rev range.

In fact the twin chargers are designed to "hand-over" to each over during going from low to high rpm regimes. They do not work together. (Supercharger for low down, turbocharger for high up)

Just seen in one car magazine today:

New Audi A4 2.0 diesel CR comes with 143hp instead of 140hp on previos 2.0TDi. But, it takes 0.4 sec more on 0-100km/h (0-60mph). Magazine says it might be due to weight of the car. They had test-drive in it and say there is no more problem bellow 2000rpm as car responds perfectly.

I also got confused about turbo. Couldn't understand from magazine if new 2.0 diesel has turbo or not.

.. erm 240 bhp+ (2.0 FSI-T)

1.4 = 170

so 121 bhp per litre

2 litre = 242 bhp

Chipped 2.0 FSI-T (or simply get a 30th Anniversary Golf or new TT to produce 240 to 265 bhp)

Which they comfortable do with just a Turbocharger.

The twin charger does not add any extra power, it just smooths the performance curve out. So that the higher power/torque is available over the entire rev range.

In fact the twin chargers are designed to "hand-over" to each over during going from low to high rpm regimes. They do not work together. (Supercharger for low down, turbocharger for high up)

everyday is a school day

.. erm 240 bhp+ (2.0 FSI-T)

1.4 = 170

so 121 bhp per litre

2 litre = 242 bhp

Chipped 2.0 FSI-T (or simply get a 30th Anniversary Golf or new TT to produce 240 to 265 bhp)

Which they comfortable do with just a Turbocharger.

The twin charger does not add any extra power, it just smooths the performance curve out. So that the higher power/torque is available over the entire rev range.

In fact the twin chargers are designed to "hand-over" to each over during going from low to high rpm regimes. They do not work together. (Supercharger for low down, turbocharger for high up)

240bhp for the VRs would be great! I'll be changing mine when that comes round!

looking at this entry of wikipedia

List of Volkswagen engines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

there is mention of twin turbo CR diesel

The twin charger does not add any extra power, it just smooths the performance curve out. So that the higher power/torque is available over the entire rev range.

True, infact VAG has also already proven that they can do the same smooth power delivery from the lowest low to the highest high with just normal turbocharger on a smaller petrol engine (1.4TSI 120hp). By optimising the flow channels inside the engine and refining the intake part.

In fact the twin chargers are designed to "hand-over" to each over during going from low to high rpm regimes. They do not work together. (Supercharger for low down, turbocharger for high up)

And this is the interesting part. Already now there are numerous complaints here from the people who have the double charger version of the 1.4TSI engine. The usual problems are that the supercharger doesn't activate and the car is powerless on lower rpm's. In Finland we drive in pretty harsh conditions sometimes and I personally have doubts about the supercharger's durability in these conditions.

The charger's actually work a little while together just to make sure that the power delivery is as smooth as possible.

Anyway, back to the topic. Interesting to see what the Geneva car expo reveals about Skoda next week. They'll of course introduce the new Superb officially, and possible new engines for the Octavia II. 1.4TSI, 1.6CR TDI and 2.0 CR TDI, atleast that's what I'm hoping for.

I can't remember where I saw it now but I saw a document which gives the week numbers when the cars begin build with the CR engine.

read somewher (on here I think) that CR was being fitted from week 22. This would make it early June

Just seen in one car magazine today:

I also got confused about turbo. Couldn't understand from magazine if new 2.0 diesel has turbo or not.

All TDI's have turbos. Thats what the T stands for in TDI. The basic diesel engines in the VAG range come without turbos and these are known as SDI's (but they are as slow as a week in the jail).

TDI = Turbo Direct Injection contrary to peoples beliefs, I think this name appeared in about '89 as older diesels did not have direct cylinder injection leading to high levels of knock and pi$$ poor performance.

SDI = Saugdiesel Direct Injection.

You'll be hard pushed to find a new VAG Diesel engine without forced induction.

Until very recently they did a 2.0SDI golf

i always thought the "i" in TDi was for intercooled?? as all diesels use an injection system??

DI was an innovation when it first appeared and that's what made the TDI unit so popular in the early 90's. Not all DI's are intercooled either. And it's not specifically the injection part but the 'direct injection' system.

The same as the FSI/GDI units that are superior to the indirect systems before them.

cant wait for VAG to do a twin turbo mainstream diesel. i drove the citroen c5 with their bi-turbo hdi engine. its pushed out 173bhp and was soo smooth and had some brillaint get up and go in it!

im sure the vag versions will beat it into the dust though lol!

All TDI's have turbos. Thats what the T stands for in TDI. The basic diesel engines in the VAG range come without turbos and these are known as SDI's (but they are as slow as a week in the jail).

Yeah, I know that. The problem was that magazine was talking about "...new 2.0 diesel engines..." never using "turbo" or "TDi" word. That made me confused.

I think most people work on the assumption nowadays that all new diesels have a turbo bolted on.

Petrols will be the same in years to come. N/A will become the exception rather than the rule.