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Here we go again, DIY cam belt thread.

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Good job. :eek:

Brilliant job. Many thanks for sharing and taking time to get such superb photos. Pity Haynes don't have you on their staff. Next change is going to be DIY. Definitely, well maybe definitely.

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You're bonkers...totally insane. I love it! :D

Top job mate. Knew you could do it....after the clutch this must've been easy no?

I found mine ran better afterwards too. Smoother and better mpg. Seems an old cam belt can have its effects - stretching perhaps?

Hmmm I think its more placebo.

The only thing that may affect the smoothness and economy is the fact that you reset the pump timing with the 3 13mm nuts on the camshaft sprocket. Its crucial to get this bang on. However, on all the PD engines I've done belts on (5 now) apart from one that was running like a bag of nails prior (was 2 teeth out! :eek: ) the pulley has always been reset to the position it was in originally ;) thus suggesting these belts really don't stretch.

Hmmm I think its more placebo.

The only thing that may affect the smoothness and economy is the fact that you reset the pump timing with the 3 13mm nuts on the camshaft sprocket. Its crucial to get this bang on. However, on all the PD engines I've done belts on (5 now) apart from one that was running like a bag of nails prior (was 2 teeth out! :eek: ) the pulley has always been reset to the position it was in originally ;) thus suggesting these belts really don't stretch.

I disagree. I noticed an instant increase by about 3mpg on average and several more miles to a tank (about 30) immediatly after my cam belt change.

The belts on these engines do quite a bit of work - the crank to camshaft includes compressing the injectors alongside the usual valve stuff, and it drives the water pump. Would make sense for it to stretch a bit over its lifetime thus retarding the valve timing a bit and perhaps making the injector compression happen a little later?

Either way, I know I noticed a difference which was a pleasant surprise as no cam belt/ chain change on any other car I've had has made that much of a difference other than to quietness (when one of my chains was stretched to buggery).

But they really don't stretch!!!! ;)

I suppose wear to the teeth of the belt could cause the same effect though??

Chains do, and they're made of steel! They're constantly under tension and the tensioner has to take up the slack. On that basis I'd assume they must stretch? It's a reinforced rubber band after all. :)

Would be interesting for someone to measure an old one (60k-er) compared to a new one for sure.

Ah but the chains only stretch because of the movement in the pins etc, and they become looser... the actual material doesn't get any longer... ;)

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Its not the belt stretching, its the tensioner getting weaker. ;)

If you look at my pics before the needle on the tensioner is to the right of the cutout marker, and after its bang on in the middle :thumbup:

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You're bonkers...totally insane. I love it! :D

Top job mate. Knew you could do it....after the clutch this must've been easy no?

I found mine ran better afterwards too. Smoother and better mpg. Seems an old cam belt can have its effects - stretching perhaps?

Tar very muchly :)

belt was easier than the clutch.

Its the peloquin LSD, high lift cam and injectors I am now scared of :eek: Another DIY thread to come ;)

LSD self fit!!! :eek:

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LSD self fit!!! :eek:

Did a Quife on the golf so shouldnt be a problem, IIRC the main problem i had was drilling out the rivets of the orginal one. But i have some nice new carbide tipped ones now :D

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Fuel consumption today on journey to work, a stupid improvement and i drive with a heavy right foot ;)

Before i Used to get around 43 on the same journey,

This morning saw over 50mpg :eek: during my 30mile commute.

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Chains do, and they're made of steel! They're constantly under tension and the tensioner has to take up the slack. On that basis I'd assume they must stretch? It's a reinforced rubber band after all. :)

Would be interesting for someone to measure an old one (60k-er) compared to a new one for sure.

If it helps, SWMBO's 1.9tdi is up for its cambelt in 3 weeks. Not brave enough to DIY it. Fuel tank will be almost empty before it goes in so could do a before/after MPG check. If I remember that is... :) I'm pretty certain my Polo's fuel economy and performance improved a tad after its cambelt change.

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Skud your link doesn't seem to work?

 

could do with this guide as I want to do mine

 

What kit you used mate? 

I will need the locking tools and the pump and cambelt kit, what do you recommend make wise for the kit and waterpump?

 

cheers

 

billy

 

ps I want to buy the locking kit as ill need it in future as I use the car a lot

Use a Gates or genuine cambelt kit and a genuine water pump.

 

You'll need the lock pin (6mm), crank lock and a tensioner tool.

I don't get why some people are scared of doing a cam belt on these, it's only an 8v engine so it's about as simple as it goes. The most important thing is to have the correct tools for the job and go about things methodologically, you'd have to do something fairly daft to knock the timing out and **** it up! 

 

I'll be doing mine when it's due, I'd rather do it myself so I know it's done properly and the timing is spot on. 

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