Hi all

Just looking for part numbers for a cam belt and water pump change. Been on to gsfcarparts.com, would the following be the right parts I need? Is there anything else I need?

12970 CAM BELT KIT FABIA 1.9SDi/TDI >ASY021000 76.50

17044 WATER PUMP FABIA 1.9TDi ATD >6Y2 510 000 (02 24.50

Edit - Just noticed there's also another cam belt kit

12968 CAM BELT KIT FABIA 1.9SDi/TDi 00> ASY021001> 85.00

You should really check using the chassis number to be sure.

The ASY numbers are probably GSF numbers.

I'd be inclined to check out OEM parts prices.

Yeh I'm a bit confused because my engine is ASZ.... will Skoda give me the part numbers or should GSF be able to tell me what I need? (using my chassis number)

They may be able to.

cambelt kit P/N 038 198 119A , £88.00

Skoda water pump P/N 045 121 011HX , £28.59

Just rang my local Skoda dealer and he reckons that I don't need to change the cambelt until 120,000km(75,000miles)? I was under the impression that it was 4years or 60,000, whichever comes first. Can anybody confirm?

Just rang my local Skoda dealer and he reckons that I don't need to change the cambelt until 120,000km(75,000miles)? I was under the impression that it was 4years or 60,000, whichever comes first. Can anybody confirm?

4 years or 60k is correct for a PD engine in a Fabia

Why do people go on about changing the water pump while the the belt is getting changed??:confused: I quizzed my Main Dealer yesterday when i was picking my car up from getting the belt done and he said that he's NEVER replaced a water pump due to failure or any other reason on a Fabia yet??

I was just wondering why people pay the extra expense?

Ian:)

Its really a 'just in case' measure. Water pums can go wrong on occasion, but to get to them you've got do remove the cambelt which can take around 2-3 hours. Paying £70-150 for labor (depending on garages charges) is silly for a £30 part so it's normally done with the cambelt to reduce costs in the long run.

Dear Mods (VRStu)

Could it be a good idea to put a helpful sticky up for cambelt related issues? It seems a lot of us are coming up to cambelt change intervals leading to lots of related (duplicate) threads.

(Sorry for the hijack :()

Just a thought.

there is a sticky somewhere,

Heres the definative answer

ON A FABIA THATS FITTED WITH A PD ENGINE TDI ENGINE THE TIMING BELT SHOULD BE REPLACED AT EITHER 60K MILES OR 4 YEARS WHICHEVER OCCURS FIRST

As said above the water pump is a good thing to change when the belt is being done, I changed mine just for peace of mind

After scouring VAGCAT.COM, the threads on here and shamelessly picking various brains, other than my own, I believe this is a definitive list of the parts required to :

a) Change the timing belt, roller and tensioner

038 198 119A - Timing belt kit, which consists of:

i) 038 109 119P Timing Belt

ii) 038 109 243M Tensioner

iii) 038 109 244J Relay roller

Change the water-pump and (supplied) gasket

i) 045 121 011HX - Skoda water-pump

ii) 2 ltrs of VW G12 engine-coolant concentrate or 5 ltrs of 3rd party pre-diluted VW G12-rated coolant.

c) Replace the upper engine-mount bolts

i) N 102 861 10 (X1)

ii) N 102 862 03 (X3)

iii) N 906 283 03 (X3)

d) Replace the auxiliary drive belt and tensioner

i) 038 903 137AA - Auxiliary drive belt

ii) 038 903 315AH - auxiliary drive belt tensioner

When pricing the parts for me, my local Skoda dealership (parts department) told me without prompting that Skoda Ireland now recommends that the interval for this work is 4 years or 60k miles (96k kms) AND that the water-pump be changed due to possible failure of the plastic impeller / shaft bearings.

Skoda Ireland offers a PX scheme where having replaced the pump with an OE unit, they offer credit for the old unit returned.

Any of you considering buying a 3rd party pump, check 2 things before buying or starting work :

1) That its not a plastic-impeller pump like the Skoda unit - I've been offered two brands that seem identical to Skoda's

2) That there is a gasket in the box.

Known good metal impeller pumps are made by QH, Febi, GX (feel free to suggest any I have missed)

An (unnamed) informed source told me that the tensioner on the auxiliary drive belt can become noisy and recommends replacement of the belt and tensioner.

It transpires that despite their inflated prices here, for most things apart from the water-pump, OE parts are competitively priced and you get an invoice with a nice Skoda logo to stick in the service history.

I hope this proves useful as getting the list of part-numbers and pricing them has been a nightmare and I'm now oficially classified as a PITA anorak in local motor-factors.

I totally agree with the idea of changing the waterpump when the cambelt is being changed, on my wife's 2003MY Polo with the BBY engine, the original waterpump had a plastic impellar and the new part exchange VAG waterpump had a metal impellar - BTW the pump gasket is part of the waterpump in the petrol engines. I also bought an auxiliary belt but did not do this until after the cambelt had been changed. I have been hearing worrying reports that it is not always possible to get away with changing the auxilary belt without changing the tensioner - this is the very reason that the new auxilary that I bought for my 2000MY Passat is still in the boot! Ford seem to be getting quite a few auxiliary belt tensioner failures on their "just out of warranty" Focus and Mondeo petrol engines - and they aint cheap!! On a similar Ford vein, to replace a £5 clutch pedal return spring costs 3 > 4hours labour!

On a similar Ford vein, to replace a £5 clutch pedal return spring costs 3 > 4hours labour!

no more than an hours labour on Fiesta, new Focus or old Focus petrol , the old Focus diesel had a more complex spring design which entails the pedal box removal to fit , but that shouldn't take more than 1.5 hours , i've even given the "how to info" to Tom-Vrs to fit the spring to the Focus TDCI he had a while back, and he did the job without problems , so its not that difficult

Ford seem to be getting quite a few auxiliary belt tensioner failures on their "just out of warranty" Focus and Mondeo petrol engines - and they aint cheap!! !

a lot of the Fords now have stretchy belts which don't require a tensioner , mainly Fiesta, old and new Focus petrols , when fitted, you don't see many tensioners go , changed a few on Mondeo petrols , but only because they are noisy (sounds like engine rattle)

Mondeo diesels have a TSB for a noisy belt/tensioner to be replaced

old Focus diesel have some issues with the tensioner , but usually at moon miles

I got the following metal impeller waterpump from GSF for my vrs:

ruville 65432

ref no: 038121011G

it says "for VW passat on the box",

is this ok?

just having 2nd thoughts

there is a sticky somewhere,

Heres the definative answer

ON A FABIA THATS FITTED WITH A PD ENGINE TDI ENGINE THE TIMING BELT SHOULD BE REPLACED AT EITHER 60K MILES OR 4 YEARS WHICHEVER OCCURS FIRST

As said above the water pump is a good thing to change when the belt is being done, I changed mine just for peace of mind

Definitive according to who?