Everything posted by Luckypants
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Real world recharge rates - what is people's experience?
Oh and for reference, My peak charge speed ever was 164kW on a Tesla V3 charger in France. That soon dropped as the battery got hot (32C outside temp) and gave an average charge speed over the session of 95kW delivering 52kWh to the car. My best average was at the Tesla charger at Folkstone Eurotunnel of 110kw delivering 48kWh to the car (peak power was 145-ish but maintained it longer). I consistently get close to 50kW from 50kW chargers and 75kW from 75kW chargers if below 60% SoC. I don't rapid charge a lot compared to some, so I do think about it in order to optimise things.
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Real world recharge rates - what is people's experience?
As Ootohere states, to get a meaningful reply you should really tell us what your car will be. However, I'll relate my experiences with a VW ID.4 (closely related to Enyaq). I have had mainly very fast DC charges where conditions allow, up to 160kW and often over 100kW. It helps to understand what it takes to get a fast charging session and make sure you get as many of those factors lined up. Charger capable of your max charge rate or more - I think you know this but some folks still pull up to 50kW chargers and expect 100kW because their car can do it! Arrive with low State of Charge - The lower the better from a charging perspective. No need to worry about going below 20% SoC if you are going to immediately charge so go as low as you dare without running out. All my best charge sessions have been from below 10% SoC. Arrive with a warm battery - The chemical reaction in a battery to store electrons happens faster at higher temperatures. Unless your car has battery pre-conditioning (pre-heat) there is little you can do about this. Warm days definitely help but a long motorway cruise hardly affects the battery temp. You will get better speeds after a drive on a cold day than if you charged very first thing but the improvement is not great. On a long trip, you may find the second and subsequent rapid charges are faster due to the heating effect of rapid charging on the battery. Only charge enough for what you need - rapid charging slows as the battery fills up and on SOME cars it can tail off dramatically. Get to know where the 'drop off point' is for your car, over which it's hardly worth hanging on to the charger. For my car its about 87%. If speed of charging is the aim, move on when charging tails off and drive to your next charger. Some chargers share power - Related to point 1. Some chargers allow two cars to plug in simultaneously but their maximum power output is shared. Thus a 150kW charger might only give 75kW max to each car plugged in. Avoid these if you want max speed. No doubt others will refine / add to these points but I hope it gives an idea.
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1560 miles road trip London to Isle of Skye during Bank Holiday in EV (and in convoy with a diesel)
Why move it if its charging? This is my whole point about destination charging. If my hotel has a charger for overnight 7kW charging, plugging into that for many hours while I sleep is preferable to plugging into a rapid then having to get up / go out to move the car when charged. I'm not blocking the charger if I'm charging and I don't need to move it. I plan to arrive at such places at low SoC if on a road trip and charge up ready for the next leg - plug in last thing at night and leave it charging for the 10 or so hours it will need for the charge needed.
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New or improved hubs announced, Government EV Loans in Scotland and free & no longer free public charging places..
Same in all walks of life unfortunately, there are always selfish bungholes who take the ****. I could do the same, but do not. The examples I gave above are actually just that - examples.
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1560 miles road trip London to Isle of Skye during Bank Holiday in EV (and in convoy with a diesel)
I feel largely the same about long distance travel. Destination charging can make trips easy to do, so I'm always looking for B&B / Hotels with overnight charging facilities. Rapids at hotels make little sense if staying overnight, I don't want to move my car once settled in. VW Travel Assist rocks.
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New or improved hubs announced, Government EV Loans in Scotland and free & no longer free public charging places..
Not necessarily tax payer funded in this case. Its the owner of the chargepoint who sets the tariff, CPS is just the umbrella organisation who manage the chargers on the owner's behalf. In the case above the subsidy is from Culzean Castle and the Robert Burns museum. A quick Google shows both locations are owned / managed by National Trust Scotland. This is consistent with many chargers at National Trust sites in the rest of the UK who provide free EV charging. (although they are now embarking on an upgrade scheme that will see charges levied for EV charging) Your statement on how useful these are is also erroneous. 7kW DESTINATION chargers are the ideal solution at somewhere where you will spend a significant amount of time. Both of these locations are places you are likely to spend at least a couple of hours, giving a decent charge. All the NT properties I visit regularly I will be there 2 hours and at Bodnant Gardens we often spend four hours there which would give me an extra 100 miles if I plugged in. Destination chargers are not intended to be part of a splash and dash charging strategy on a long trip.
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Rolls Royce EV (Spectre)
Seems like a proper Rolls. I think a 250 mile range will be fine for a car like this as any further it will be private helicopter or jet for the rich folks that may buy it. Even so, charging is unlikely to bother the owner either, Parker will do that!
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EVs, Your choice £30k - £40k
Not sure a heating element would help VAG fuel/charge flap locks from sticking. The problem seems to be caused by water ingress, which rusts the actuator to buggery. As said, charge flaps are open longer so exposed to the wet much more - so these seem to fail more frequently on EV than ICE VAG cars. There has been an interesting thread on SpeakEV about replacing the actuators, because now cars are coming out of warranty people are trying to fix for themselves as this can be an expensive failure at the dealer. I think the OP on that thread was charged £300 in total for the repair. https://www.speakev.com/threads/4-years-in-and-now-a-knocking.184672/
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EVs, Your choice £30k - £40k
True and it seems worse on EVs. The theory goes that EV charge flaps are open longer while charging, getting wet and covered in snow so fail more frequently than on their ICE siblings. I keep my charge flap latch actuator regularly lubed to try to avoid this.
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EVs, Your choice £30k - £40k
For maintenance it probably has a 'service position' just like most cars do for front wipers that are tucked under the bonnet. As for frost, heated screens....... EVs are capable of running electrical items without being switched on. My ID.4 automatically defrosts front and REAR screens below a certain temperature if pre-heating is activated (which can be automatic itself).
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EVs, Your choice £30k - £40k
I saw the launch photos and got all huffy about no rear wiper and muddy Welsh roads.... but watched this video and Ginny showed it tucked up in the rear spoiler. I like this car.
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New or improved hubs announced, Government EV Loans in Scotland and free & no longer free public charging places..
Ideal for a lunch stop then. (or a supermarket shop! )
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New or improved hubs announced, Government EV Loans in Scotland and free & no longer free public charging places..
FWIW Sainsburys have their own charging arm that is rolling out rapid charging to it's stores. See https://smartcharge.co.uk/ They are aiming for 100 hubs this year IIRC. That might see something come to your town. As for other supermarkets, AC charging is the wrong model. People don't spend long enough at a supermarket to get a worthwhile charge. At short dwell locations, rapid chargers like Sainsbury are doing is the way forward. It does look like Perth will have an embarrassment of riches in the charging department. Shame that for me it does not fall as a natural stop if heading north of there.
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My 2023 MINI Cooper S Level 3 Electric leased from Motability which will be with me for 3 years & now a 2021 MG5 as a dog wagon.
The economics still only work if you can charge at home. For me, the cut-off point is a lot higher as a similar diesel car would do about 45mpg driving around here (this is what my previous Karoq 2.0TDi did), so my cutoff to be better than diesel is 50p/kWh at 3.5 mile/kWh or 15p per mile. I often do better than 3.5 in decent weather but its easy to forget my winter average was 3.4 for October through to end of March. It's very hard to find public charging below 40p/kWh unless you live next door to a Tesla charger so public charging is something I manage to avoid most of the time.
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the truth about electric cars
I've never got close to WLTP (or other methodology) MPG figures in my ICE vehicles, so why would I as a rational person, expect to achieve them in BEV? The nonsense is the people who overlook this when assessing BEVs and concluding they are rubbish as they don't meet WLTP 'in the real world' but conveniently forget their diesel does not do 70mpg 'in the real world'. Like Stonekeeper, I use them as a comparison tool.
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England EV Charging points, a proposal. & location & news on new charging hubs in England & Wales.
I think the final count is now 69 sites open to all.
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the truth about electric cars
Having a lot of difficulty working out a 2.5p per mile petrol figure. You either get VERY cheap petrol or your car does over 200 mpg? Petrol is £1.50 a litre here.
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EV real world range and cost to charge
Well mine is not. Long story mentioned many times before, my smart meter does not work (and DCC / Government stink.) I'm on the daily rate Tracker tariff as a courtesy from Octopus until smart meter coverage is fixed enabled in my area. Tracker has been averaging just below 20p/kWh If I ever get to the nirvana of a working smart meter the economics change in my favour. Until then the discussion is moot for me. I was giving my two penn'orth on the discussion as it stood.
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EV real world range and cost to charge
I think the cost of charging from solar is a point of view type of argument. On the one hand if I put a solar kWh in my car I don't get paid 15p export, but on the other hand I save around 20p by not paying for it from the grid. Which view is right, am I saving 20p or losing 15p? I like to think I save 15p off the 20p (5p net cost) for every kWh that my car gets from solar. This is how I account for that solar energy on my car cost spreadsheet. I've kept track of every kWh I've put in the car, so I don't delude myself over what going EV has cost me. Its working out about even costs with previous diesel car including monthly finance payments - EV lower running costs offset by higher finance payments. Finally, just want to say that getting solar PV was not based on having an EV but on a desire to reduce my emissions and reduce my bills in retirement (a few years off yet). We have a plan to make our house as cheap to run as possible to help eek out the retirement funds.
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Enyaq Wiper Blades Replacement
Use wiperblades.co.uk.... They show this as front wipers for Enyaq https://www.wiperblades.co.uk/suv-15-years-2020-to-2024-wiper-blades/aerotwin-plus-ap28u-flat-windscreen-wiper-blade-and-aerotwin-plus-ap18u-flat-windscreen-wiper-blade-twin-pack-wiper-blades - the same as my ID.4 They also show Bosch rear wiper for Enyaq here.. https://www.wiperblades.co.uk/suv-15-years-2020-to-2024-wiper-blades/bosch-a284h-wiper-blade
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New or improved hubs announced, Government EV Loans in Scotland and free & no longer free public charging places..
Did mine yesterday. 🤓
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England EV Charging points, a proposal. & location & news on new charging hubs in England & Wales.
Another 'partnership' starting to bear fruit. A new Osprey hub at a Tesco Extra in Leicester as a result of the site owner (REIT) and Osprey striking a deal for Osprey to provide charging at REIT's retail parks. https://www.ospreycharging.co.uk/post/new-hub-tesco-extra-leicester
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England EV Charging points, a proposal. & location & news on new charging hubs in England & Wales.
Services at last seem to be getting their act together with regards charging. I suspect this is the pay-off to the government Rapid Charging Fund helping pay to upgrade power supplies to MSAs starting to come through.
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EV real world range and cost to charge
Shell are putting their charging prices UP when electricity prices are going DOWN. Go figure.... https://www.shell.co.uk/electric-vehicle-charging/public-charging-with-shell-recharge/shell-recharge-pricing.html
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England EV Charging points, a proposal. & location & news on new charging hubs in England & Wales.
.... and causing much excitement amongst the Twitteratti (X-eratti really does not have the same ring to it!) is EV Point installing the first non-Tesla badged V4 superchargers at Uttoxeter. They are operational by all accounts but not yet on Zapmap, Electroverse et al. A new hub using Tesla tech without the need for contact with Tesla. https://electrek.co/2024/03/21/first-non-tesla-branded-v4-superchargers-are-being-deployed/