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Yes, happening again this year: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/09/01/national-grid-pay-households-cut-electricity-usage-12-times/ It's from the grid and should apply to all suppliers. Perfect timing as I get my V2H installed Should be able to bring it down to 0 kWh over that period without doing anything.

I think the issue is the pre-auth amount per charging attempt and low charger reliability means sometimes multiple tries is required. Genie point with their low reliability is £35 pre-auth per attempt: https://www.speakev.com/threads/genie-point-pre-auth-price-increase.179332/ Instavolt seems to be £15 or £30: https://instavolt.co.uk/faqs/ Podpoint is also £30: https://pod-point.com/legal/public-charger-terms-of-use This is the story with BP I talked about earlier: https://www.speakev.com/threads/should-we-be-boycotting-bp-pulse-for-sharp-practices.167226/ I always use credit card and have high limit cards, so pre-auth isn't a worry for me personally. But i can see it being a problem for debit cards or people living on the limit.

I understand what you are saying and I was agreeing with you, see my post you've quoted. You keep saying I view you as against EV. But all I'm doing is pointed out your use of wording reads like you against "you EV lovers". Same again here, no one "rushed to the attack", why must everything be an attack or defence? Who is this meant to fight against? That's an advisory: "Items removed from driver's view prior to test"

This isn't a me against them situation..... I'm disappointed you feel this way. 😘 The pre-auth is indeed a serious problem. I've heard story of over £100 being held in pre-auth due to failed charging attempts. There had even been story where BP would charge you and refund you the difference, but when charge point clunks out, user didn't get the refund! At start of the video there is a demo with FastNed. Tesla cars works much faster in same fashion on their Tesla network. Industry wide Plug & Charge standard is coming: https://electroverse.octopus.energy/community/ev-blogs-and-guides/what-is-plug-and-charge Mobile payment? Apple pay or Google pay? TBH I use my watch to pay more than anything else these days. My wallet is only in my pocket as the backup.

People in those thread says T&C have now been updated to include IO. And indeed it has. https://octopus.energy/policies/smart-tariffs-terms-and-condition/

Please teach us! That's an useful skill for every driver. NHS should print posters to improve public health. But for less able people, like myself, I think rest every 2-3 hours is typical.

Just like buying any car, you check the battery condition before buying. You know its expected range and battery degradation when buying. You can spend a bit more for a better condition vehicle. Of course a 100k miles EV typically will have worse battery condition than a 50k miles EV. Apart from a few lowest-spec very early Leaf that were discontinued in around 2015 (IIRC), all other Leaf can use rapid charger. But I'm talking about in 2030 or later buying a 10 years old Model 3/Y, or any EV that is capable of over 250 miles with heat pump and battery thermal management. The battery degradation will be much better than 1st gen Leaf. Yet based on 1st gen Leaf degradation trend, 300 miles range becomes 250 miles after ~10 years. I thought you are retired? Regardless, are you saying you drive 5-6 hours non-stop? If you were working, how long do you usually stop mid-journey? Typical EV recharge time, 10% to 80% is 20-30min. So only 10-20min longer than a toilet rest stop. Think really hard about most journeys, driving distance on this small island really isn't very far. If anywhere is suitable for EV, it's on this island.

I agree it's long distance in terms of driving time, Google maps say over 5 hours. But that's only ~300 miles. Even if you buy a 10 years old Model 3/Y, based on my Leaf degradation trend, it would still only require a single rapid charge session. I'm not knocking anyone's reasoning for their choice of car. I'm just laying out counter points to the idea that battery degradation affects usability, or that EV range isn't enough for occasional long drives.

Semi-rated news, Octopus are increasing export tariff, switching people from government SEG 4.1p/kWh to their own tariff that pays 15p/kWh. It is available to people on Intelligent Octopus, where overnight off-peak import is 7.5p/kWh. https://www.speakev.com/threads/outgoing-octopus-increase-great-news.179902/ https://www.speakev.com/threads/octopus-seg.179905/ So import 6 hours x 7kW (42kWh) at 7.5p overnight then export it at 15p. Easy £3.15 profit every day. May be time for me to upgrade to a 60 kWh Leaf. £1000 per year to help with paying it off, by itself (my Leaf V2H install is finally booked in for end of October)

Obviously it depends on personal use-case. As I said, oldest EV's still work very well as family local runabout. Even the humble first-gen Leaf can fit with "most" people's commute requirement at 9+ years old, most according to this data: https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/bulletins/traveltoworkenglandandwales/census2021 Newer EV's will loose less battery capacity as it ages thanks to better thermal management and/or battery management system. So at worst, 300 miles range EV becomes 250 miles after 10+ years. Only really noticeable when doing 1000 miles trip, need one additional charging stop. A petrol/diesel car's range changes just as much when limited by traffic. My previous diesel Octy would get over 500 miles in ideal conditions, as per rated, but around 400 miles when stuck in slow moving traffic. Whereas EV's stuck in slow moving traffic would actually consume less and exceed its typical range. Case in point, I drive 40 miles yesterday, errands in the morning and fully loaded car in/out central London in evening, parked directly in front of the theatre for Lion King, to watch Lion King. Got home with 42%. Pro rata out to be 69 miles range, over 10% higher than what I typical expect out of the car. (congestion charge and ULEZ exempt, £1.37 parking paid 10min at Westminster valid for 4 hours thanks to their EV incentive. £0.70 recharge cost, back to 100% for a new day, in a car worth just £3000-5000) Remember it's 2015 or newer for diesels, 2005 or newer for petrol. That's 18 years old petrol, vast majority of petrol is compliant.

For what it's worth. My Nissan Leaf is was first registered in December 2014. It is now almost 9 years. Its battery health is at 79%, which means about to loose 11th health bar. Battery warranty for this first generation Nissan Leaf battery ended after 5 years, warrant battery does not go below 9 bars, which is 66%. According to my data trend, 3% per year, it will take another 4 years to reach battery warranty limits. Meaning 13 years old, or 8 years after the 5 years warranty runs out. Even then, it will still functional for all local use as the family local runabout. This is the health figure I was tracking as the car aged: Nissan Leaf warranty: https://www.nissan.co.uk/content/dam/Nissan/gb/vehicles/leaf/product_code/1_carryover/owner_benefits/EV Customer Promise T%26C's 05.02.18.pdf Leaf battery health bars: https://mobility.lk/2020/10/11/soh-capacity-bars/ Leaf does not heave battery thermal management and battery management system is very basic. They are known to degrade faster than other vehicles.

Electric estate! This is great, we need more spacious estate cars. Having said that, I think a hatchback version based on ID3 would work just as well and could be on the market sooner, 2026 is a long time away. Just like normal Octavia is based on Golf chassis. The hatchback also gives better aero and thus efficiency. Despite sharing legacy name, it's great to see it is based on dedicated EV platform.

So you, or your neighbour, thinks car battery need to be replaced at end of warranty period? Do you replace a Skoda vehicle's fuel tank or engine at end of 3 year warranty?

Interesting comment, what makes you say that?

Back on EV's. It's world EV day 9th Sep (whatever that means) https://www.worldevday.org/ Oxford are offering free charging for that day https://news.oxfordshire.gov.uk/electric-vehicle-charging-and-hire-offers-across-oxfordshire-this-world-ev-day/

Thanks, yes, I'm on the look out for deals now. Wife likes the known Michelin brand name, so probably going for CC2 for her Leaf. Checking every week. Still 3mm left so can it pass MOT in 1 month time.

What's under the cover? Shame there's no frunk, considering it's a converted platform, the motor-inverter stack will take up less space than engine.

In my experience, so far, no. Octopus webpage gives you a recommended number and just accepts whatever number I've put in. During most expensive winter, there were 5% cashback by Santandar for 2 months, so I adjusted DD to overpaid to get max cashback. Then adjusted it all the way back down to £20 per month, all changes were accepted without fuss. That's correct. I had typed about it initially, but thought I can't post good things about Tesla in almost every post. But yes, I try to stick to using their chargers. Currently they are 36-40p/kWh off-peak across their locations. Peak is typically 4-8pm. Some locations have very low 0-4am. The price changes regularly, almost like petrol prices, so unfortunately zap-map or similar doesn't display most up to date prices. You can get VAT receipt from the app, or through a QR code on the new V4 screens if paid using contactless. But without 30-day rolling membership or paying via contactless will mean more expensive at ~50p/kWh for same off-peak period. They say they use 100% renewable electricity: https://www.tesla.com/en_gb/impact/product#:~:text=99.95% Uptime%2C-,100% Renewable,charging network in the world. I believe wood chip fired power station are currently classed as renewable.

Correct, price cap is expected to drop slightly in Q4: https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/what-are-the-price-cap-unit-rates-/#unitrates You'd probably be looking at 27p/kWh from 1st October. Your current 29.97p/kWh is the current price cap. It must have gone down back in July. Before then it was around 34p/kWh. If you go with Octopus, you can change your DD payment at any time online. (I can provide referral code ) I was on 35p/kWh for day rate for a few days at end of June before dropping down to 31p/kWh in July. I expect there will be a tiny drop in October. It's no secret the business electricity rates are also dropping, but it hasn't been passed on to us by rapid charger network operators. Most are still charging double or more what they would have to pay per kWh. Once again, those who don't have (driveway) gets shafted.

True, and the big elephant in the room is that infrastructure is not improving fast enough to keep up with the upcoming mass adoption. But the user experience depends heavily on the car. Drive a ~100 miles range EV will be more affected by the infrastructure gaps than a 300 miles EV. Drive an EV that routes you to their reliable network will effectively be same as jumping in to petrol/diesel and take off for a long trip: zero pre-planning required. The problem isn't with the technology, it's due to government not investing enough in the infrastructure and the laggy incumbent manufacturers doing their best to delay the inevitable.

It’s important to seek valid arguments from both side of the fence. However, they should be delivered in a factual manner and the title outlines the video as a summary. Not “you can’t believe” or “I’m going to expose”. These emotional charged titles are designed to stir up feels in order to gain platform engagement and thus further recommendation by the algorithm. It’s a modern rabbit hole, much more healthy to ignore and seek out factual contents. Healthy factual content examples: The title are a simple question that is directly answered, or a summary. The delivery are done using factual statements. The contents come from many references found in each description. I would happily watch contents such as above, with multiple well referenced sources, from people who oppose adoption of EV’s. It enables healthy and factual discussions. Rather than waste of bandwidth about rants from an owner who lacks common sense (I did watch one video from the chap in his early days)

As YouTube premium, I just refuse to watch any click-bait videos so I wouldn’t give them views and thus funding. A summary/abstract of the “interesting” video would be useful. Only linking to it as source.

Too much battery manufacturing capacity? 🤯 it's no where near enough! May be enough to support current dip in EV demand, but, as you said, there's many other applications. Model 3 will be the new wind-knife, with battery capacity to make it a useful long distance machine.

CarWow video said same computer underneath, so presumably HW4 we've seen in US MY with same Ryzen CPU as HW3 cars. Price is currently said to be same as out going model, but I'm sure it'll go down next few years to duck under £40k mark. There is rumour that there will be a front bumper camera to help with parking. But I can't see anything in the video. Apart from removal of stalks, it doesn't feel like lowering of in-car equipment. Better noise isolation and suspension upgrade, plus ventilated seats, should make the car feel more premium than existing cars. You can configure the new car now on their Australia configurator. Estimated delivery is Q1 2024, so I think UK will be similar. https://www.tesla.com/en_AU/model3/design#overview