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Hi @SashaGrace , I understand this. I looked back through the thread and I don't see part numbers that a car would have to have in order for mirror dip to be able to work. Is there a list of compatible part numbers somewhere? @Powerred and @Ecomatt Would you please be so kind as to post the hardware and software versions of the related components in your car? (I guess this is OBDeleven Info; I report mine below. I assume similar is available in VCDS, etc). Thanks. Looking at the Info for the Control Unit: Driver Door on my car in OBDeleven I see: System Description: TSG FS Identifier: J386 Hardware number: 5Q4959593K Hardware version: 007 Software number: 5Q4959593K Software version: 0485 Long coding: 001C0920DE00020000001100 ODX file: Use latest ODX name: EV_DCU2DriveSideMAXHCONT ODX version: 001005 Protocol: CAN: UDS And Passenger Door: System Description: TSG BFS Identifier: J387 Hardware number: 5Q4959592K Hardware version: 007 Software number: 5Q4959592K Software version: 0485 Long coding: 001C0120DE00020000001100 ODX file: Use latest ODX name: EV_DCU2PasseSideMAXHCONT ODX version: 001005 Protocol: CAN: UDS

Hi @langers2k, On the subject of OBDeleven how-tos and especially backups, today I found this very complete treatment of the subject: http://cupra280.co.uk/obd11.html -Jay

Thanks @Powerred, could you post the various changes you made to enable this? I think I've got all the changes including then making sure it is marked as enabled in the head unit Car settings, and then I've tried with the mirror adjust switch in neutral, in driver-side, and in passenger-side position, and the mirrors simply never dip going into reverse gear. By the way, what do you mean you "enabled it in MMI"? regards, -Jay

Thanks @shyVRS245, I had seen that. I'm really looking for the (I'm dating myself here ...) late 1980s-style "Oil every X thousand miles, timing belt at Y tens of thousands of miles, clean/lube/check suspension every Z thousand miles, ..." - the whole list. I'm flatly amazed that Skoda's expectation for this car is "oil once every 10k or 20k", "timing belt (I see in the overall tech specs of the vehicle) at 112K miles", and I suppose everything depending on the technician at the shop that does the routine 1 or 2 year checks to know everything and miss nothing?? I have a great deal of trouble having that much faith.

This question was asked over a year ago .. .. and received no answer. I recently bought a 2020 Octavia MkIII Scout 4x4 2.0TDI (my first new car purchase in twenty years), and I too am surprised to find that there doesn't seem to be a published official maintenance schedule for the vehicle. Just "trust the car computer" (or, wait for any idiot light to light up). I'm a little uncomfortable with that. Is there truly no more-or-less set maintenance schedule for these cars? .. not even for the Really Big Stuff(TM) like the timing belt? Are the cars' built-in sensors and programs really that reliable (especially for those of us who plan to keep cars for ten and more years)? thanks, Jay Catalunya, Spain

Link the car to Facebook and Google, and it'll even go so far as to say "Car load heavy for current tire pressure; is that Uncle Henry I see sitting in the back seat?"

Indeed @Powerred, absolutely true. (I've posted several threads here lately; in only one of them I gave my background; in short, I was writing program code in the 1970s. So, yeah, nothing about overlapping, apparently conflicting names/ settings surprises me. Just asking about a variety of specific examples of these possible apparent contradictions because I also sadly know how low quality software embedded in physical systems tends to be...). @langers2k I'll check where the various related setting names appear (adaptations vs long coding) and report back. Thanks!

@langers2k I agree - it's an easy tool with which to do damage. The first thing I did before editing anything was to take a full backup. So, if we can figure out how to export that in a usable format, there's your 2020 Octavia MkIII (Scout) default config (for my car's options, anyway...) Also, OBDeleven automatically keeps history. It's not the most user friendly thing in the world to walk back through it, but it's possible. (It's straightforward to export the History. I'm struggling to figure out where OBDeleven stored the Backup files; and I know that OBDeleven does not offer a "restore" option; the backups are for manual comparison in case of a need to [manually] restore individual settings. But, at least it's there. I've posted to the OBDeleven forums asking where the Backup files are stored).

Awwww, oh well. Back to un-code some stuff then 😅 Thanks, Jay

Hi @PetrolDave, I'm not sure if I understand the question. The mirror control switch (left, right, fold-in) is in the neutral position (pointing down, labeled "0"). My understanding of the automatic mirror dip feature is that, without touching that control, putting the car into reverse gear should cause both side mirrors to dip slightly (and then return to their previous position upon taking the car out of reverse gear). Apologies if I'm misunderstanding the question or the feature?

Thanks (yet again) @SashaGrace, I followed your instructions for "Menu Display Compass - OFF ROAD WITH AND WITHOUT NAV" and I do now have the sports gauges screen available in my 2020 MkIII Octavia Scout (tap the "Car" button repeatedly on the head unit to cycle until the three gauges appear). As you noted, in the absence of a physical compass, the compass display just says "North"... heh. (Unless, of course, my car has a compass, and there's something else I need to code/tweak/set to let this gauge access said compass?) How would I check if my car physically has a compass? (It has no nav system). thanks, again! -Jay

I'm trying to enable mirror dip in reverse, so far without success. I've done the following (using OBDeleven): Control Unit: Central Electrics, Long Coding, byte 04 bit 03 "Mirror Lowering with Reverse Gear" - ticked box (shows value 2). n.b. I also found/changed this under Adaptation Spiegelverstellung to set "Spiegelabsenkung bei Rueckwaertsfahrt"='active'. Control Unit: Driver Door, Long Coding, 'mirror_lowering_with_rear_gear', changed to 'active' Control Unit: Driver Door, Long Coding, 'position_memory_with_rear_gear', changed to 'active' Control Unit: Driver Door, Long Coding, 'memory_mirror', changed to 'active'. Control Unit: Passenger Door, Long Coding, 'mirror_lowering_with_rear_gear', changed to 'active' Control Unit: Passenger Door, Long Coding, 'position_memory_with_rear_gear', changed to 'active' Control Unit: Passenger Door, Long Coding, 'memory_mirror, changed to 'active' Control Unit: Central Electrics, Adaptation, "Menuesteurung Spiegelabsenkung"- changed to 'active' All of this above did make mirror "lower while reversing" appear in the car settings options in the head unit, however the mirrors still don't dip when I put the car in reverse. I understand (I think from a @SashaGrace thread?) that I need a minimum type and level of mirror hardware for this feature to be able to work. On another thread I found a part number; my car has what appears to be a slightly newer version of that same number, so I'm guessing that it's got the necessary bits .. though I could be mis-guessing how Skoda/VAG matches up incremented part numbers with whether they have at least all the same features as earlier part numbers. Looking in OBDeleven at the Control Unit: Driver Door, Info shows Hardware number 5Q4959593K, hardware version 007, software number 5Q4959593K, software version 0485, ODX name EV_DCU2DriveSideMAXHCONT, ODX version 001005. Any idea whether that is/isn't adequate mirror hardware to be able to enable mirror dip in reverse gear? Did I miss something in my list of coding above? many thanks, Jay

Hi @john999boy, Yes, it would require that, there was never any doubt. So, are you saying that the Octavia MkIII (2020) definitively lacks this more advanced tire pressure monitoring system, and has only the wheel spin speed differential idiot light display? thanks, Jay

On my 2020 Octavia MkIII Scout, with the Tire Pressure Monitoring System, the only user interface that I find for it is in the Car settings, to set "the tires are good now". I don't see any way to see what the monitoring system currently is detecting. On this car, is TPMS just an "idiot light"? That is, get the pressure in the tires right, "set", and there will never be any interaction with the system unless/until the system detects that a wheel is spinning differently than the others/ than before? It would be nice if it would actually show "Your pressure is ..." for each tire. thanks, Jay

Thanks everyone. I guess I should have prefaced - I'm a computer/software engineer (focused >20 years in security/privacy), so although I am new to Long Coding, nothing that I've encountered in how all of this works (the basic engineering of modules, buses, configurations, software that knows some things about something, less/bit-coding about other things, and probably gets some things completely wrong because, hey, the software is crowd-sourced and the manufacturer really doesn't worry about keeping their constantly-"improved" stuff compatible with whatever we tinkerers may have [thought we have] found over time ... heh). So, yes, backups first, records of everything I do, and no tinkering with things that I expect might be able to "click here to kill everyone" by interacting too badly with a physical system. I have looked at many of the known tweaks, and for example have successfully enabled Traffic Sign Recognition, Refuel volume estimate, and Show blower speed when on Auto. I'm trying to get mirrors-dip-in-reverse to work; from something I read by the inestimable @SashaGrace I understand that a particular mirror assembly part# is needed - looking at what OBDeleven finds of my mirrors, I would seem to have a just slightly newer version of that part number series, but I haven't yet succeded in getting the mirrors to dip.. So, yes, lessons taken, thanks. What in particular has OBDeleven been known to mess up, by the way? @langers2k I'd be more than happy to supply you with whatever information I can to contribute to tribal knowledge! Drop me a private message and I'll do my best. I hugely appreciate this community; waaaay back in the early Internet days I did this sort of thing for computers, operating systems, network stacks, etc to help others. Now I'm older and lazier and mostly consume, but will happily contribute as I can! Oh, about writing an OBDeleven coding how-to guide, actually I've had zero difficulty taking VCDS instructions and doing the same tasks in OBDeleven, and there are OBDeleven how-to guides out there in other fora, so anything I might create (other than specific knowledge about "on this year-model-feature car, X worked, Y didn't") would just be duplicate and probably not as well done as things already available... So, any thoughts on the specific apparent mismatches I've found? (I'll add another - my car does have front fog lights - the headlight control dial has two pull-out positions; but one of the Long Coding items, for front fog lights, is set to not-installed.) I assume it's just that there's so much detritus from years and generations of software, that the bits I've found that talk about e.g. "front fog lights" relate to some older car models and technology, and simply aren't where _my_ car's software goes looking for information about _the_ front fog lights that _it_ has... 😅 cheers, -Jay

Thanks @Milentije (would it be so difficult for Skoda to make this stuff more clear? Heh). So, my car does have both of those features. Which brings me back to wondering, why when I read Long Coding with OBDeleven in my car do I see in the Control Unit: Dashboard both "Lane Assistant" (set to yes) and "Lane Change Assistance" (set to no)? regards,

I agree, there would need to be a temperature sensor in/on the steering wheel itself. My guess is that the "Steering wheel heater auto mode" software option is common in software between my Octavia and other VAG cars, but possibly it's not an option in the Octavia. @brettikivi you noted that you can set automatic steering wheel heat on a Golf 8 / Octavia MkIV - could you please elaborate; how did you find to automate turning on steering wheel heat on these newer cars? thanks,

(Sorry for the flood of posts today, new toys and all...) So, I've got an OBDeleven for my new 2020 Octavia MkIII Scout, and have been looking through lots (and lots) of settings. In the Control Unit: Dashboard I see both "Lane Assistant" (set to yes) and "Lane Change Assistance" (set to no). My car has the feature where it will both show me on the virtual cockpit display whether I'm staying in lane, and also tug on the steering wheel to help keep me in lane. It also has blind spot detection with the blinking orange lights embedded in the sideview mirrors. So, what's the difference between "Lane Assistant" and "Lane Change Assistance"? thanks,

It would probably have been better to have never ordered the OBDeleven but it's hard to separate a boy (or girl) from the toys he (or she) can buy... Ahem. So, 2020 Octavia MkIII Scout, bought new in October 2020. Just got an OBDeleven. Looked through pages and pages (and pages) of Long Coding settings to get an idea of what's in there. Found several things that seem to disagree with the physical configuration of my car (that is, I found bits in Long Coding which have names provided by OBDeleven and which are set e.g. yes/no, active/not-installed in a way which is different than what's really in my car). Just curious if others have found these disagreements, and whether any of them are worth playing with (since the features DO work as delivered from the factory). Under the Control Unit: Air conditioning, where it lists various aspects of the car (For example, it's a diesel 4x4 wagon, all good), the "Roof" item says "Standard". But, my car has a powered panoramic roof. (I forget in which other Control Unit) Tire Pressure Monitoring is set to "no" (although, right after that is the setting Tire Pressure Monitoring Display, set to yes); my car as a Tire Pressure Monitoring System reset command in the head unit (though I don't see anything at all about tire pressure anywhere else except for the "reset", in other words "tell the car that the tires, as they are now, are good"). I guess it's an "idiot light" sort of thing? .. where it's completely invisible unless/until it detects that a tire's pressure has changed? Anyone see anything ever about tire pressure monitoring other than the reset page in the head unit settings? It would be nice to be able to see that it was working... (I guess I could stop at an air pump and manually let some pressure out of a tire and slowly drive around the parking lot to see if the car alerts me, but it seems like the sort of thing that ought to have a status page somewhere...) (I forget in which other Control Unit) Collision warning is set to "no", but I know my car has collision warning, because I occasionally get that spurious red "radar" image (accompanied by the piercing shriek) as described in this other thread: (Again I forget in which other Control Unit, sorry...) Pedestrian Protection,BAP distance is set to "no", but I'm pretty sure that my car has pedestrian detection (i.e. it'll detect if someone is about to walk behind me when I'm in reverse gear to back out of a parking space). So, what does it mean, that there are these various Long Coding settings which seem to disagree with things that I know are actually intalled in the car, and which are working (Well, in the case of tire pressure monitoring, which I assume is working)? thanks!

Hi @MikeTheThinker, How did you get that full options list for your car? One thing that did and still does frustrate me about my experience buying my 2020 Octavia MkIII Scout in late 2020 is that I found it impossible to know exactly what feature codes the car has. Every description that I've found from Skoda or that the dealer gave me about "my" car seems to be a hodgepodge of standard features and options, so some things listed aren't really there (because my car has upgraded options), or aren't there (because they're included in the description as things that might have been optional purchases but weren't actually on the car that I bought). So, how can I get an exact list like the one you posted here? (Apologies for hijacking the thread to ask this). Thanks!

So, I got my OBDeleven device, and have been poring over the many, many (but, many) settings that our computers-with-wheels (aka, our cars) have... I see settings that look like they might be able to have the heated steering wheel heat turn on automatically if the temperature is low enough. (My car does have the heated steering wheel, and it works just fine, but manually of course - I press the button and select the heat level). What I found, looking through OBDeleven, is: Control Unit: Air Conditioning, Long Coding; item "Steering wheel heater auto mode", with options "not installed" (which is what it was set to), "Steering wheel temp" (which is what I've changed it to), "Outside air temperature", and "Reserved". Even assuming that my car's steering wheel has a thermometer in order to know what its current temperature is, in order to be able to automatically turn on steering wheel heat if the steering wheel temperature is "too low", somewhere there would have to be further settings to tell the car at what temperature to automatically turn the heat on. I don't find such a setting. So, does the Octavia MkIII even actually support this option that I see in the Long Coding bits under the Air Conditioning Control Unit? And, if so, what are the other bits to flip to fully enable it, and to configure the temperature below which it should automatically turn on? (A Google search did not turn up this option, except in this thread https://forum.obdeleven.com/thread/3262/control-unit-setup which lists all the options). thanks! -Jay

Tested. Works fine. So, attached to the rear of the rearview mirror: bad; pegged on the windscreen just at the far edge of the black dots (just visible to the driver past the rearview mirror): good! Thanks!

Hi everyone. After a ridiculously long customs delay (on an item that in theory shouldn't even have had to have gone through customs, being shipped by OBD Eleven from Lithuania to me here in Spain), and then further delayed by me being away over the holidays (I put 3400km on my Scout; MAAAAAN this car makes long drives easy and comfortable), I finally got the OBDeleven device and did some adjusting today... Traffic Sign Recognition is enabled and works. I only got the "limited" warning once, though I fully turned the car off and back on again I think three times after finishing the coding. Anyway, I can certainly live with that. The current OBDeleven app has the long coding bits already text-labeled for the Adaptation in the Multimedia Control Unit under Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2 (which I had to find in German, I think 😅) 'traffic_sign_recognition_0x21', and 'menu_display_road_sign_identification', as well as Dashboard Control Unit long coding text 'Road sign detection'. (Though, now that I think of it, I'm not sure that I have seen any new options appear in the head unit under Car -> Settings). Anyway, traffic sign recognition works. Thanks!

Indeed, thanks! Per the Wikipedia article on "frits", these dots are ceramic, not metal.

Thanks very much @nidza! Really curious - those instructions show the toll device being placed ON the dotted-block stuff on the windshield (which I think are there to reduce glare in the driver's eyes when looking at the rearview mirror) and which I assume contain metal! I didn't see in those instructions a dotted area on the windshield, just text describing what I'd already tried, and the picture which, per the above, surprises me. When I drive along several hundred Km of toll highways in a few days, I'll test my toll device in my hand right in the middle of the windshield, to see if maybe I just got unlucky and it needs to be replaced.