Been reading up a bit on what i can use as a decent swirl remover/filler.

Normal choice seems to be SRP, however it seems a few over DW are getting decent results with Poorboys Black Hole.

Poorboys Black Hole Glaze - Poorboys Car Care and Detailing Products

Any thoughts on this ?

I thought about maybe trying SSR1, then this on top as a filler ?

Hi m8,

SSR 1 and all other ssr group members are designed for machine use mainly. I think that you will heavily struggle to break them down properly by hand on the whole car. Tons of elbow grease will be needed :(

If you need to do a very small area then it should be fine.

Anyway you can't go wrong if you stick with SRP. It's really good stuff by hand. Haven't tried black hole so no comment but imho it can't be that much better than srp.

Cheers

Igor

They can be used by hand, it just says better results can be had by machine, pretty obvious really.

I'm only going to be doing one or two panels a night, so i'm not fussy about having to work at it.

Black hole is worth a shot though wouldn't you think ?

Klasse All In One (AIO)

Excellent on silver and looked great on a certain grey panda 100

Doesn't stain trim either.

What about a black Fabia though.

Always needs a first, but bearing in mind the grey in question was a dark one I'd say it would be pretty damn good.

Ta muchly.

That just throws more stuff into my land of confusion !

You're welcome.

The Klasse (carlack is IIRC the same) is a cleaner, polish and sealant so all you would need to do would be:

- Wash

- Clay (if needed)

- Klasse

- Couple of layers of 476s or whatever wax you fancy.

i read up on the blackhole stuff you were talking about, it seems to be more of a temporary fix, where its good for use before shows or the like but wont be a lasting fix.

i'll let you know how i get on with the SSR1, should be arriving tomorrow

Good thread on hand swirl removing here: ** Swirl Removal By Hand - Test ** - Detailing World

Clearkote Red moose glaze is quite a good filler, takes a bit of work though. Clearkote Red Moose Machine Glaze

Prima Amigo much easier to work with and still good results. Products - Serious Performance

Aye, Daves thread is good, and obviously he reccomends SRP has acheived best results by hand.

Waller, any ideas when you and Andy are free ?

As he offered to let me come across and use his PC.

Beginning to wonder if i should just do that, then look at keeping on top if it from then on, rather than starting by hand.

If you can use a PC to fix it properly I would.

I was offered to use one (under supervision)

Maybe worth a shot then.

Johnny50 - You really should buy a PC of some desription or even a cheap Rotary like a Silverline, spending money on products will surely add up to the cost of a machine?

I'd still need to buy products though wouldn't i ? :(

i used the SSR1 today and by hand it doesnt seem to have done too much, might give it a bash with a machine.

6hrs polishing and waxing the car today :eek:

I'd still need to buy products though wouldn't i ? :(

Not if you bought a PC including pads and polishes............no.............:confused:

Didn't realise you could buy silverlines so cheap until i looked them up.

Can i use normal pads on them as per PC etc ?

Although rotarys can inflict a bit more damage can they not ?

Didn't realise you could buy silverlines so cheap until i looked them up.

Can i use normal pads on them as per PC etc ?

Although rotarys can inflict a bit more damage can they not ?

A Silverline machine was the first machine that I used when I started and you have to buy the specific pads for them, you can find all this on Ebay and the pads are very cheap.............I found it an easy too to work but you do have to be careful on edges and sharp corners.............

Thanks

I guess for corners and sharp edges i could always turn the speed down a little could i not ?

Am gonna go off and read the rotary guide on DW

Thanks

I guess for corners and sharp edges i could always turn the speed down a little could i not ?

Am gonna go off and read the rotary guide on DW

Indeed you could mate, I am sure you will do OK if you read the guide.........

I've actually just had a thought.

There's a new front wing going onto my fabia in the next month once it's painted.

Perfect chance to practice on the old panel first !

Cant beleive i never thought of it till now.

At least i can try too soft, and too hard on it to see the effect.