Been following this thread - some interesting comments.

Well, in my Estelle, when I am cruising at 65 and overtake a slower car, quite a few times they don't like it and re-pass me at 75, get in front and then slow down again. I used to re-pass them, but realised that this was a bit childish in the end. Let them set the pace and the fact that you are behind them puts the pressure on them – not you. They will keep glancing in the rear view mirror and wonder about the car behind. Usually they peel off after a few turnings and are gone and forgotten.

Here is a little story for you. I was taking my Mum and Gran on holiday from Hertfordshire to Exeter along the A30 (nicer than the A303) and was keeping it on the boil at 50-55 mph on a fairly winding and hilly road. Then comes a thumping great Lexus in the rear view – and there is NO WAY that a Lexus will follow a Skoda is there:rolleyes:? So he flies by and away. After a mile or so I catch him up again – he is stuck behind a tractor. On seeing the Skoda catch him up he risks a dangerous overtake on the tractor (which turns off moments after he passes it) and is gone. For 40 miles I kept catching that Lexus up without trying – and only finally the dual carriageway at Honiton saw him speed wildly to loose that yellow Estelle. Moral being that these overtakes and battles are a waste of time and fuel – and the UK road network does not allow one to gain any meaningful distance if you do overtake. Show you are wiser by not rising to their immature ‘challenge’.

Ian

I have had this a couple of times in my silver vRS octy.

Followed a BMW for several miles at 50mph in a 50 limit. Dont bother overtaking as he is doing the limit anyway.

Come to a 70 zone and he didnt speed up so I overtook. As soon as I was in front he sped up, right up behind me. I'm still doing 70. BMW overtakes me at 80ish then soon as he is in front starts to slow back down to 50 over the next mile or so. Whats that about then?

TBH I get the same when in the works van, a 85bhp transit SWB. Some people just dont like to be behind certain other vehicles. Vans and Skodas are 2 of them.

Steve

Now that crap I get all the time and I don't think it's anything to do with Skodas.

Travelling along sitting at 70 on cruise (in my Octy or my mates Mazda6) and the person in front is doing 60ish. So you move to over take still on the cruise and as you get closer they speed up. You end up doing 80 to get past.

That or you are doing 70 and a car comes racing up the inside lane and starts to slow down as they come past to the point where they just sit and hover in your blind spot. After a minute or so they seem to wake up and get past normally to either race off at 90 or slow down to 60 so you have to overtake them and one of the two things happens again.

Everyday I get that. Pensioners seem to be the worst. they speed up (deliberately or not I don't know) and you have to boot it on a single carriageway to get past then they start flashing you for speeding.

Wise words from Ian.

And even if the roads allow you to go ahead, how much do you gain? If your average speed during a 100 miles journey is 75 mph you'll cover the distance in 1 hour 20 mins. If you slow down to 70 you'll lose six (!) minutes. How valuable can they be?

If I don't have a ETA to care about I often skip the boring highways and toddle on on minor roads at 50-55 mph. Fellie's purring contentedly at that speed, and it gives me a nice 45+ mpg figure as well.

Here is a little story for you. I was taking my Mum and Gran on holiday from Hertfordshire to Exeter along the A30 (nicer than the A303) and was keeping it on the boil at 50-55 mph on a fairly winding and hilly road. Then comes a thumping great Lexus in the rear view – and there is NO WAY that a Lexus will follow a Skoda is there:rolleyes:? So he flies by and away. After a mile or so I catch him up again – he is stuck behind a tractor. On seeing the Skoda catch him up he risks a dangerous overtake on the tractor (which turns off moments after he passes it) and is gone. For 40 miles I kept catching that Lexus up without trying – and only finally the dual carriageway at Honiton saw him speed wildly to loose that yellow Estelle. Moral being that these overtakes and battles are a waste of time and fuel – and the UK road network does not allow one to gain any meaningful distance if you do overtake. Show you are wiser by not rising to their immature ‘challenge’.

Ian

That's a comment on those roads and/or the Lexus operator (I refuse to call him a driver). There are very few times that anyone I overtake, even if they were doing a steady 55 and keep it up, ever see me again. When they do, it's down to me getting trapped behind a slower vehicle long enough for them to catch up, and the last time it happened the following driver (in a faster car) was driving dangerously (eg straight-lining blind bends) just to try and keep up.

Wise words from Ian.

And even if the roads allow you to go ahead, how much do you gain? If your average speed during a 100 miles journey is 75 mph you'll cover the distance in 1 hour 20 mins. If you slow down to 70 you'll lose six (!) minutes. How valuable can they be?

If I don't have a ETA to care about I often skip the boring highways and toddle on on minor roads at 50-55 mph. Fellie's purring contentedly at that speed, and it gives me a nice 45+ mpg figure as well.

And when you get stuck behind the tractor you saw turn onto the road just in front of you after 20 miles, you lose another 10 minutes, and now you get stuck in congestion you'd planned to just beat, losing another hour. Bottom line, those "few minutes" can turn into a lot of lost time (actual example based on a friend's commute).

And when you get stuck behind the tractor you saw turn onto the road just in front of you after 20 miles, you lose another 10 minutes, and now you get stuck in congestion you'd planned to just beat, losing another hour. Bottom line, those "few minutes" can turn into a lot of lost time (actual example based on a friend's commute).

You're right, of course, but the tractor or the congestion could wait around the corner no matter what your speed is (since those things cannot be foreseen). It is equally possible that the slower driver never sees the tractor since it's turned off the road before being catched up, or that the congestion is dissolved when he gets to the spot. In that case the few minutes are reduced to nothing at all.

Even in my old 1.3 Favorit Estate I can move away from standstill much faster than other cars. I think probably the reason is either most other people drive like grannies, or if they stick their accelerator to the floor scary things will happen for them I like to get up to speed faster and watch them break the speed limit to overtake. Oh, especially when you come up to the speed cameras and they slam on the brakes and you continue at the legal speed and end up undertaking them

I have seen that too.

Cars deciding to race off at lights only to think "oh crap camera"

One incident in a works van. I'm on the A666 going home, fairly dense traffic but moving at the speed limit of 50mph. i'm in the outside lane with someone on my left. A Saab pops behind and starts flashing me, so i slow down and move in.

What the impatient saab driver then did was accelerate past quite quickly, but round the next bend was a camera and he had to brake pretty hard only to see my van back in his rear view mirror (I'm still doing 50)

You're right, of course, but the tractor or the congestion could wait around the corner no matter what your speed is (since those things cannot be foreseen). It is equally possible that the slower driver never sees the tractor since it's turned off the road before being catched up, or that the congestion is dissolved when he gets to the spot. In that case the few minutes are reduced to nothing at all.

In the case of the congestion, it could be predicted, and lasts for 2 and a bit hours. Trust me, certain "hot spots" in the Scottish roads network are very predictable that way. Hit them at 15:55 and you get straight through; be delayed to 16:05 to 16:10, and you're stuck for an hour.

In the case of the congestion, it could be predicted, and lasts for 2 and a bit hours. Trust me, certain "hot spots" in the Scottish roads network are very predictable that way. Hit them at 15:55 and you get straight through; be delayed to 16:05 to 16:10, and you're stuck for an hour.

Ah, yes - foreseen and predictable congestions are quite another thing and fall under the "set ETA" category where of course six minutes (or three) could be crucial.

You're right, of course, but the tractor or the congestion could wait around the corner no matter what your speed is (since those things cannot be foreseen). It is equally possible that the slower driver never sees the tractor since it's turned off the road before being catched up, or that the congestion is dissolved when he gets to the spot. In that case the few minutes are reduced to nothing at all.

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On a 4 hour journey (west mids to Kent) the actual time difference is no more than 20-30 mins when travelling at 70-75 and 85-90. I have done this trip almost every weekend for last 2 years and only my mood changes the speed, although I know that it wont save much time.

My advice to all impatient drvers is do an advanced driving course. Really shows the need and the point in maintaining a smooth but progressive drive.

With fuel going up and up maintaing a smooth constant drive to get a good mpg is becoming quite a necessity.

I can do approx 200 miles in about 4 hours maintaining 65mph with 1 service stop.

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On a 4 hour journey (west mids to Kent) the actual time difference is no more than 20-30 mins when travelling at 70-75 and 85-90. I have done this trip almost every weekend for last 2 years and only my mood changes the speed, although I know that it wont save much time.

My advice to all impatient drvers is do an advanced driving course. Really shows the need and the point in maintaining a smooth but progressive drive.

See, I've done that trip in more like 3 hours before the M25 widening around Thiefrow to Gitwack (Orpington to Cosford) and took more like 3.5 for a return trip departing Hodge Hill in Barmyhum. The difference being a shunt, and the 0.05mph "overtaking" trucks killing my 70 mph cruise on the way back.

Also, on the way up, I overtook the same car 3 times, whilst running at a constant speed (other car distinguished by Chavball scarfs), which I think proves that the key to good (for you) journey times is being able to set and hold a cruising speed.

I have had this a couple of times in my silver vRS octy.

Followed a BMW for several miles at 50mph in a 50 limit. Dont bother overtaking as he is doing the limit anyway.

Come to a 70 zone and he didnt speed up so I overtook. As soon as I was in front he sped up, right up behind me. I'm still doing 70. BMW overtakes me at 80ish then soon as he is in front starts to slow back down to 50 over the next mile or so. Whats that about then?

TBH I get the same when in the works van, a 85bhp transit SWB. Some people just dont like to be behind certain other vehicles. Vans and Skodas are 2 of them.

Steve

i get it in the work lorry, your in a traffic jam with enough room of one car between me and the car im following, yet the sales rep/bmw type driver has to go up the pavement and push past as he cannot be kept behing alorry even through youre in a traffic jam.

i get it in the work lorry, your in a traffic jam with enough room of one car between me and the car im following, yet the sales rep/bmw type driver has to go up the pavement and push past as he cannot be kept behing alorry even through youre in a traffic jam.

I'll not push past, but I prefer being in front of a wagon in a jam, cos then I can drive on vehicles about 8 down the road, rather than just on what you're doing.

See, I've done that trip in more like 3 hours before the M25 widening around Thiefrow to Gitwack (Orpington to Cosford) and took more like 3.5 for a return trip departing Hodge Hill in Barmyhum. The difference being a shunt, and the 0.05mph "overtaking" trucks killing my 70 mph cruise on the way back.

Also, on the way up, I overtook the same car 3 times, whilst running at a constant speed (other car distinguished by Chavball scarfs), which I think proves that the key to good (for you) journey times is being able to set and hold a cruising speed.

lol

The 4 hours is including the 40-50min on the M25 car park...

On the way back I have done it in less than 3 hours on a sunday which, bearing in mind it is a 230 mile trip is good going!

Its a case of "get out the way iam trying to earn a living" slow a*s drivers and bloody Nissan Micras :rofl:

:sofahide:

Not that I condone such childish behaviour and I would never ever do this myself, , but, if ever a lesser vehicle overtakes you and you know you can out accelerate it, let it get level, drop a gear or 2 and floor it!

That REALLY pi$$es the chav brigade off:rofl:

Well, so I'm told, co's I'd never do that.............

This is the most annoying thing if you are the one overtaking and they speed up - please don't do this, just let people pass!

Nothing to do with whether or not the car is a Skoda. I get the odd incident with a penis head in another vehicle irrespective of what vehicle I drive. Some people are simply retarded.

I've had two incidents this week - being bullied off the road by 4x4 drivers.

One didn't like me letting someone out of a side street in heavy traffic, so he overtook me and filled the space I had created for her. The second simply drove at me knowing that I would concede defeat due to size difference.

The first may have been an example of Skoda rage (I had overtaken him earlier in a national speed limit as he was doing 45-50mph), the second was a clear cut case of "I'm bigger than you so get out of my way".

I did swear a bit....