Just wondered if anyone else had heard anything.....on the radio this afternon they said that the honda civic was at the bottom of the which reliability survey .....they also said other Hondas had the top seven places ....just wondered where all the other cars came

Yeah - This was the main debate on the Type R forum..

I didn't hear it myself but would like to know which model they tested and what other cars got higher?

Anyone know?

Well new type r seems a bit rubbish from the feedback I hear from 2 guys I know.

First guy (had the postman pat one before chopping it in for the new shape) = 1x snapped sub frame :eek: £4K to rectify!!!! Plus plenty of other niggly faults.

Second guy= Car has been in and out of the dealers so many time since last Sept it's unreal.

Because it's built in Swindon?

BBC NEWS | Business | Japanese cars 'are most reliable'

Is someone else going to buy the report in the shops or pay for the online one?

Japanese cars top Which? reliability poll

From what I've heard, the Civic problems are attributed to the diesel engine.

I've seen the brand league table on the thisismoney website but I can't get access at work to get the link. Skoda only got 78% :P

Japanese cars 'most reliable' | This is Money

Skoda still beats Mercedes, Audi, Jaguar, Volvo...

As with many surveys, there is a real number of people versus % indication. You know the 76% of women prefer this cream to nothing at all; survey of 16.

We've had a civic, actually two now and covered over 30k and not had any problems. But we didn't fill a survey out. I think it's far more liekly had we had problems, we would of done so. Certainly if customer care was poor I'd make a point of marking them down, it this last bit I fear for the likes of Skoda Uk who don't appear to get the service element right...

Looks good for our Hyundai we have on order!

I wonder how all these surveys compare - you know, What car? with Which? I suppose they are ballpark...

Because it's built in Swindon?

BBC NEWS | Business | Japanese cars 'are most reliable'

Just had a look on there and there was a quote from someone saying, 'I have had the same Mini Metro since I bought it from new in 1985.'

That's really impressive; it's like saying, 'I've have the same legs I was born with forty-three years ago.' Numpty.

:rofl:

I had a look at the magazine in Sainsburys today, it was 4 quid - I didn't buy it. Looked for my car but forgot the civic, doh.

I work for a big co. that use a lot of hire cars, our local 'depot' use a lot of 1.8 civics. To be honest I've never heard of a broken down one. Only problems have been safety related - no spare tyre and handbrake use warning. And some of those cars get a hard life in those 10k miles

Just had a look on there and there was a quote from someone saying, 'I have had the same Mini Metro since I bought it from new in 1985.'

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Yeah, it's had 2 engines, 4 new displacers, new heater matrix, new rear subframe, new front sub mounts.....

Triggers Broom.

Also, what did it say the most reliable mini MPV was....?

Excuse me for the poor formating but you should get the jist

Brand Reliability Index

Very good

Honda 85% 85%

Toyota 84% 84%

Daihatsu 83% 83%

Lexus 83% 83%

Mazda 83% 83%

Subaru 83% 83%

Suzuki 83% 83%

Good

Hyundai 80% 80%

Mitsubishi 80% 80%

Porsche 80% 80%

Average

Mini 78% 78%

Nissan 78% 78%

Ford 78% 78%

BMW 78% 78%

Skoda 78% 78%

Kia 78% 78%

Proton 78% 78%

Mercedes-Benz 78% 78%

Audi 78% 78%

Jaguar 78% 78%

Poor

Vauxhall 75% 75%

Citroën 75% 75%

Volvo 75% 75%

Volkswagen 75% 75%

Peugeot 75% 75%

Smart 75% 75%

Chevrolet 75% 75%

Daewoo 75% 75%

Jeep 75% 75%

Very poor

Saab 73% 73%

Seat 73% 73%

MG 73% 73%

Alfa Romeo 73% 73%

Rover 70% 70%

Fiat 69% 69%

Renault 68% 68%

Land Rover 67% 67%

Chrysler/Dodge 67% 67%

Table notes

Sample sizes: Honda (8764), Toyota (8714), Daihatsu (195), Lexus (890), Mazda (2903), Subaru (678), Suzuki (693), Hyundai (1131), Mitsubishi (615), Porsche (216), Mini (854), Nissan (4027), Ford (9690), BMW (3691), Skoda (2658), Kia (595), Proton (55), Mercedes-Benz (3149), Audi (2581), Jaguar (1352), Vauxhall (6052), Citroën (2857), Volvo (2345), Volkswagen (5568), Peugeot (3211), Smart (257), Chevrolet (249), Daewoo (109), Jeep (139), Saab (1121), Seat (1058), MG (304), Alfa Romeo (365), Rover (1309), Fiat (1259), Renault (3904), Land Rover (892), Chrysler/Dodge (255). The total sample size was 84705.

Superminis

Honda Jazz 2002 96% 96%

Skoda Fabia 2007 96% 96%

Hyundai Getz 2002 95% 95%

Citroën C1 2005 95% 95%

Daihatsu Sirion 2005 94% 94%

Peugeot 107 2005 94% 94%

Toyota Aygo 2005 93% 93%

Ford Ka 1996 93% 93%

Volkswagen Polo 2002 93% 93%

Hyundai Amica 2000 92% 92%

Citroën C3 2002 92% 92%

Kia Picanto 2004 92% 92%

Fiat Panda 2004 92% 92%

Toyota Yaris 2006 91% 91%

Mini 2006 91% 91%

Mitsubishi Colt 2004 91% 91%

Peugeot 206 1998 91% 91%

Mazda2 2003-2007 90% 90%

Ford Fiesta 2002 90% 90%

Smart ForTwo 2000 90% 90%

Skoda Fabia 2000 90% 90%

Mazda2 2007 89% 89%

Suzuki Swift 2005 89% 89%

Peugeot 207 2006 89% 89%

Renault Clio 2005 89% 89%

Vauxhall Corsa 2006 88% 88%

Nissan Micra 2003 87% 87%

Vauxhall Corsa 2001-2006 87% 87%

Mini 2001-2006 83% 83%

Seat Ibiza 2002 83% 83%

Fiat Grande Punto 2006 82% 82%

Table notes

Sample sizes: Honda Jazz 2002 (1078), Skoda Fabia 2007 (46), Hyundai Getz 2002 (132), Citroën C1 2005 (64), Daihatsu Sirion 2005 (39), Peugeot 107 2005 (60), Toyota Aygo 2005 (140), Ford Ka 1996 (90), Volkswagen Polo 2002 (207), Hyundai Amica 2000 (39), Citroën C3 2002 (91), Kia Picanto 2004 (47), Fiat Panda 2004 (83), Toyota Yaris 2006 (666), Mini 2006 (175), Mitsubishi Colt 2004 (84), Peugeot 206 1998 (90), Mazda2 2003-2007 (125), Ford Fiesta 2002 (474), Smart ForTwo 2000 (32), Skoda Fabia 2000 (266), Mazda2 2007 (31), Suzuki Swift 2005 (110), Peugeot 207 2006 (165), Renault Clio 2005 (237), Vauxhall Corsa 2006 (253), Nissan Micra 2003 (174), Vauxhall Corsa 2001-2006 (61), Mini 2001-2006 (140), Seat Ibiza 2002 (55), Fiat Grande Punto 2006 (72). The total sample size was 5326.

Mini MPVs

Skoda Roomster 2006 92% 92%

Nissan Note 2006 91% 91%

Hyundai Matrix 2001 90% 90%

Ford Fusion 2002 89% 89%

Renault Modus 2004 88% 88%

Vauxhall Meriva 2003 87% 87%

Suzuki SX4 2006 86% 86%

Odd they put the Roomy in here with it being the same size as a Scenic or a Cmax.

Table notes

Sample sizes: Skoda Roomster 2006 (70), Nissan Note 2006 (236), Hyundai Matrix 2001 (40), Ford Fusion 2002 (110), Renault Modus 2004 (106), Vauxhall Meriva 2003 (135), Suzuki SX4 2006 (64). The total sample size was 761.

Medium cars

Volvo C30 2007 96% 96%

Nissan Qashqai 2007 94% 94%

Kia Cee'd 2007 93% 93%

Mazda3 2004 93% 93%

Toyota Corolla 2002-2007 91% 91%

Volkswagen Jetta 2006 91% 91%

Toyota Auris 2007 91% 91%

Subaru Impreza 2000-2008 90% 90%

MercedesBenz Aclass 2005 90% 90%

Kia Rio 2005 90% 90%

Ford Focus 2005 90% 90%

BMW 1 Series 2004 89% 89%

Volkswagen Golf 2004 88% 88%

Audi A3 2003 88% 88%

MercedesBenz Bclass 2005 87% 87%

Seat Leon 2005 87% 87%

Peugeot 307 2001-2008 86% 86%

Renault Mégane 2002 86% 86%

Vauxhall Astra 2004 83% 83%

Citroën C4 2004 82% 82%

Honda Civic 2006 82% 82%

Sample sizes: Volvo C30 2007 (31), Nissan Qashqai 2007 (103), Kia Cee’d 2007 (48), Mazda3 2004 (360), Toyota Corolla 2002-2007 (281), Volkswagen Jetta 2006 (72), Toyota Auris 2007 (232), Subaru Impreza 2000-2008 (35), MercedesBenz Aclass 2005 (151), Kia Rio 2005 (30), Ford Focus 2005 (917), BMW 1 Series 2004 (213), Volkswagen Golf 2004 (543), Audi A3 2003 (237), MercedesBenz Bclass 2005 (98), Seat Leon 2005 (99), Peugeot 307 2001-2008 (179), Renault Mégane 2002 (152), Vauxhall Astra 2004 (423), Citroën C4 2004 (166), Honda Civic 2006 (668). The total sample size was 5038.

Large cars

Honda Civic Hybrid 2006 95% 95%

Volvo S60 2000 92% 92%

Mercedes-Benz C-class 2001-2007 91% 91%

Toyota Avensis 2003 91% 91%

Toyota Prius 2004 91% 91%

BMW 3 Series 2005 90% 90%

Subaru Legacy/Outback 2003-2008 90% 90%

Ford Mondeo 2000-2007 90% 90%

Lexus IS 2005 90% 90%

Mazda6 2002-2008 90% 90%

Ford Mondeo 2007 89% 89%

Jaguar X-type 2000 89% 89%

Audi A4 2000-2008 89% 89%

Honda Accord 2003-2008 88% 88%

Nissan Primera 2002-2006 88% 88%

Skoda Octavia 2004 87% 87%

Saab 9-3 2002 87% 87%

Volvo S40/V50 2004 86% 86%

Vauxhall Vectra 2002-2008 85% 85%

Peugeot 407 2004 85% 85%

Skoda Superb 2002-2008 83% 83%

Renault Laguna 2001-2007 82% 82%

Citroën C5 2001-2008 80% 80%

Volkswagen Passat 2005 80% 80%

Table notes

Sample sizes: Honda Civic Hybrid 2006 (54), Volvo S60 2000 (37), Mercedes-Benz C-class 2001-2007 (188), Toyota Avensis 2003 (388), Toyota Prius 2004 (361), BMW 3 Series 2005 (600), Subaru Legacy/Outback 2003-2008 (56), Ford Mondeo 2000-2007 (272), Lexus IS 2005 (155), Mazda62002-2008 (321), Ford Mondeo 2007 (87), Jaguar X-type 2000 (143), Audi A4 2000-2008 (311), Honda Accord 2003-2008 (260), Nissan Primera 2002-2006 (30), Skoda Octavia 2004 (400), Saab 9-3 2002 (225), Volvo S40/V50 2004 (151), Vauxhall Vectra 2002-2008 (308), Peugeot 407 2004 (120), Skoda Superb 2002-2008 (43), Renault Laguna 2001-2007 (60), Citroën C5 2001-2008 (82), Volkswagen Passat 2005 (323). The total sample size was 4975.

I also discovered this week that the civic is also a good source of silver indicator bulbs