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The projector lamps, with their single bulb and mechanical dipping, would appear to be a good candidate for HID conversion. Anyone done it?

John

Considered it, but it's still not really legal despite the projector lamps

Lot of people have it in Turkey...

MTEC is a popular and god quality product... 6000K...

I have installed HID's in my MK2 Fabia Sport with curve projector headlights.. (Don't bother with the "no no's :) ) The reason for doing this was that I wasn't to impressed with the light output with the "bi-halogen" lights. It ought to be possible to specify Xenon headlights on a new car.....:thumbdwn:

I have been driving with the Xenon system installed for about 10 months and 10000km's and I still haven't experienced anyone flashing at me because of my lights blinding them. Adjust your headlights correct, and buy a kit with no more than 6000K preferably 4300K and all is good!

I'm happy with my headlights after the HID conversion :)

One thing you have to think about is if you have the curve projecting headlights is that the swiveling of the projectors can make the wiring to the bulbs break. I have had to replace a bulb/wire assembly because of a broken wire to the bulb.

Enjoy!

I have installed HID's in my MK2 Fabia Sport with curve projector headlights.. (Don't bother with the "no no's :) ) The reason for doing this was that I wasn't to impressed with the light output with the "bi-halogen" lights. It ought to be possible to specify Xenon headlights on a new car.....:thumbdwn:

I have been driving with the Xenon system installed for about 10 months and 10000km's and I still haven't experienced anyone flashing at me because of my lights blinding them. Adjust your headlights correct, and buy a kit with no more than 6000K preferably 4300K and all is good!

I'm happy with my headlights after the HID conversion :)

There is another issue with this. The headlamp assembly only uses one bulb. The flash or hi-beam is run through a prism type mechanism meaning it will use the same bulb. If your using a Xenon bulb it means that when you flash your lights the bulb will have no where near enough time to reach peak operating temparature resulting a poor flash (As Xenon bulbs actually take up to 3 seconds to reach operating temp). You might not notice this but others certainly will and so could your MOT tester if so inclined. The regualtions in Norway may be different but in the UK it could be an issue.

It ought to be possible to specify Xenon headlights on a new car.....:thumbdwn:

It is, just not on a shopping trolley :rolleyes:

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It is, just not on a shopping trolley.

I would pay extra for sufficient headlights even on a shopping trolley if I lived in a country that didn't have lights in the supermarkets..

Is the Fabia just a shopping trolley (what is the Octavia MKII?, a semi shopping trolley??) Surely that is not what the Fabia MK2 is sold/marketed as?? I find the MK2 Fabia almost perfect for my use, the one thing I was unhappy with was the headlights, which I think could have been better when you are willing to pay for it.

:)

The daylight running lights/TFL which are obligatory in Norway (and hopefully soon in all other european countries) makes the "xenons won't light up if you hit the high beam just for a quick flash" point mute, as the bulbs are powered and reach full lighting power a few seconds after having started the engine. Is there a law in the UK that says that you can not use your headlights even in daylight?

The daylight running lights/TFL which are obligatory in Norway (and hopefully soon in all other european countries) makes the "xenons won't light up if you hit the high beam just for a quick flash" point mute, as the bulbs are powered and reach full lighting power a few seconds after having started the engine. Is there a law in the UK that says that you can not use your headlights even in daylight?

Well you have a solution but in the UK no one uses their headlamps in the day (We like to be able to see our motorcyclists) so therefore it's an issue

Department for Transport - Aftermarket HID (Xenon) headlamps

This doesn't cover the warmup issue but it shows the stance taken.

I would pay extra for sufficient headlights even on a shopping trolley if I lived in a country that didn't have lights in the supermarkets..

Is the Fabia just a shopping trolley (what is the Octavia MKII?, a semi shopping trolley??) Surely that is not what the Fabia MK2 is sold/marketed as?? I find the MK2 Fabia almost perfect for my use, the one thing I was unhappy with was the headlights, which I think could have been better when you are willing to pay for it.

:)

Octy has xenons available on everything except the Classic trim.

I have a Roomster which I fitted Phillips Extreme bulbs to and these have been excellent. You have found you needed to change something and you have done it :thumbup: however in the UK it's not that simple.

Meadway,

I am not familiar with the roomsters headlamp units but, if they are like the OctyII's and have a 2 seperate bulbs, 1 for low (in the projector bit) and 1 for high (not in projector bit) then a HID conversion, although of dubious legality with the D.o.T etc will be fine.

The warm up issues that people mention will occur every time you switch your lights on, they will fire up instantly to a very bright light and then take a second to settle to there normal light output. When your lights are off, I beleive that when you flash your lights, both the low and highs will fire up. As the highs are still going to be halogens then no problem. In other words you do get light instantly when you "flash" someone. When your running with lows on and flash someone, the highs will just fire up.

Reports suggest that the aftermarket HIDS dont like been constantly flashed (constant start up and off) compared to halogens or OEM HIDS although when I had them I didnt have too much trouble with them.

hids4u are a reputable seller.

Steve

Meadway,

I am not familiar with the roomsters headlamp units but, if they are like the OctyII's and have a 2 seperate bulbs, 1 for low (in the projector bit) and 1 for high (not in projector bit) then a HID conversion, although of dubious legality with the D.o.T etc will be fine.

Steve

Roomster and Fabia II projector headlights has only one bulb, H7.

They have bi-halogen projector, high beam has been triggered by a solenoid inside the projector...

Like this...

b2s1.gif

b2s2.gif

Roomster and Fabia II projector headlights has only one bulb, H7.

They have bi-halogen projector, high beam has been triggered by a solenoid inside the projector...

Like this...

b2s1.gif

b2s2.gif

That's a great illustration of how Romster's headlights work; top man.

Must remember to get my Philips Extreme bulbs installed!

Well you have a solution but in the UK no one uses their headlamps in the day (We like to be able to see our motorcyclists) so therefore it's an issue

Department for Transport - Aftermarket HID (Xenon) headlamps

This doesn't cover the warmup issue but it shows the stance taken.

I have been a "biker" for quite a few years... I didn't touch anything with four wheels (cage) as long as the roads were clear from ice,and I was not working..

I have been riding everything from a Yamaha SRX600 to a Fireblade both on track and on the road for a "few" years and I would NEVER use lights that disturb bikers on my "cage".. :thumbup:

The issue concerning bikers not being seen has a lot to do with how the individuals ride their bikes/ how they place themselves in the lanes. Using "high beam" and placing themselves in "the wrong lane" is just annoing. A biker using low beam and riding "correct" is both easier to see, and easier to relate to in traffic!! :cool:

Roomster and Fabia II projector headlights has only one bulb, H7.

They have bi-halogen projector, high beam has been triggered by a solenoid inside the projector...

Like this...

b2s1.gif

b2s2.gif

OMG did you actaully take your headlamp apart to do this?

Now thats dedication! :thumbup:

OMG did you actaully take your headlamp apart to do this?

Oh no... :D

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The projector lamps, with their single bulb and mechanical dipping, would appear to be a good candidate for HID conversion. Anyone done it?

John

haven't you read the laws on xenon lights? they are illegal when not fitted to a type approved head light unit, auto levelling or headlight washers are also a requirement. i can't believe you want to go ahead and make your car illegal and dangerous just for the sake of some chav lights.

Did you randomly decide to resurrect this thread or were you just feeling bold?

i had my reasons :)

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