Hi there

My 05 Octy 2.0 TDI PD140 Estate (sadly now out of warranty) has developed a subtle judder over the last few months. Total milage is circa 30,000 miles which is not bad for a 3.5 year old car.

Most noticable when

- maintaining a constant speed of a smooth road in a straight line

- speed circa 60 mph revs 1900 - 2000 sixth gear

- also sometimes felt at other speeds/gears above 40 mph

Mainly felt

- via steering wheel with one hand resting at 1 - 2 pm position.

- via seat / footwell (when its at its worst)

Not noticable when driving around town more on drive in to work on dual carrageway etc.

Does not appear to be triggered steering, braking or accelaration - really more noticable at constant straight line speeds.

I hit hit a deer a few months ago O/S front and has the car repaired by Direct Line.

I'm hoping this this is tracking or wheel balence (due to above) but looking at other posts I'm worried about the Dual Mass Flywheel (DMF) which seems to be a problem for 2l TDI's like mine.

Ive not received a recall notice but the VOSA website has one R/2006/035. UPDATE - phoned Skoda they checked my reg and informed me my car is NOT subject to recall for this.

Thoughts anyone - any other ideas for whats causing this ?

Car is booked into Specialist cars Aberdeen next week.

If this is a recall matter should te work be done FOC even if out of warranty ??

If it does need a new DMF can anyone advise on the cost given the car is out of warranty.

Cheers

D

Edited 23 October, 200817 yr by darius

My 05 Octy developed a judder at 60mph a couple of months ago. Took it in to my local tyre centre last week to get the wheels balanced. Found that both front tyres were worn nearly bald on the inside edges. Still had plenty of tread on the outsides, which is why I didnt notice them. Two new tyres and a tracking adjustment has sorted the car, feels much more stable at speed. I was involved in an accident a few months ago and the car was possibly out of alignment from then, or just by me clipping the curb now and again!

Dual mass flywheel is a good option IMHO.

Get the tyres checked but if it isn't that then prepare for a shock when you get a price for a new DMF and clutch kit quoted.

I had exactly the same problem on my old 06' vRS. The inside edge of the rear tyres had worn like a 50p piece (they may have been previously on the front)

2 new tyres later...problem gone! I only felt the judder at about 70 on a smooth motorway.

I hope its as simple as that :-)

i had same problem, only noticable above 65mph on motorway, tyres near to wear limit, so put on 4 new tyres now smooth as are lasses sweet ***.

UPDATE

Specialist cars balenced wheels and updated engine software -judder still there. Mechanic was clocked on car for 4.5 hours trying to see what the problem was trying a fix then test driving repeatadly - but they only charged an hour :-) = £82.50 inv VAT

Next step is a full laser alignment check and adjust @ circa £160 NOTE: New tyres went on 1 year ago only done circa 8000 miles - I havent seen any signed of uneven wear on them.

If that doesn solve it then its possible a new DMF circa 5 hours work + parts. :-( :-( They dont want to go the DMF route until they are sure its not alignment due to the cost.

Garage has been good but what makes me really mad is that they mentioned that Skoda do an extended warrenty and I should have been sent an invite automatically by Skoda. I never recieved an invite from Skoda or a reminder the the Skoda assist cover had expired. :mad: Not the Garages fault as Skoda have all my details.

Especially annoying as the cruise control failed just after the warranty ended (usual problem faulty control stalk).

I feel I'm being penalised for having a low milage car and not thrashing it. Garage is going to try a goodwill claim to Skoda. If it does turn out to be the flywheel Skoda and Skoda dont pay part of it given the Skoda's warranty invite ****-up then it will not be a new Skoda I'll be buying when I next change cars.

Dual mass flywheel is a good option IMHO.

Get the tyres checked but if it isn't that then prepare for a shock when you get a price for a new DMF and clutch kit quoted.

What he said, if it proves not to be the tyres or wheels.

BTW, certain brands of budget tyres are almost impossible to balance.

The symptoms you describe sound much more like a tyre/wheel/balance problem rather than a flyweel issue to me. If it was my car I'd be borrowing a set of wheels and seeing if that solves the problem. Another diagnostic possibility is one of those machines that check the balance while the wheel is on the car (has a small electric motor that spins the wheel up to speed via a friction drive, with a probe that goes on the suspension to sense any imbalances).

A tyre can be well balanced but out of round, thus causing vibration when driving.

Another possibility is a "soft" engine mount. If it it isn't obvious/certain what a fault is I tend to look at the cheaper/easier to fix alternatives first, then work my way up to the horrendously expensive ones later, sometimes you are fortunate

Please let us know what the final fix is, it will add to the collective wisdom on here.

I changed my front tyres last week and 90% of the juddering/rumbling has gone, I don't think the last set of tyres were balanced properly but these are pretty much perfect. I still think there is a DMF/gearbox issue thanks to the clunk when applying power after the over run.

As the tyres wear out slowly the symptoms creep up on you over time until they get so bad you think you have serious problems.

UPDATE:

Specialist cars Skoda didnt do the wheel alignment as they spoted some flat spots on the tyres and suggested it may be cheaper to get that done first.

However before doing the tyres they rechecked the car and concluded that its the DMF ( flywheel ) after all - cost £700 :-(

Im trying for a goodwill gesture on Skoda - as the car has done less than 30000 miles. no goodwill gesture = max bad publicity for Skoda as far as I'm concerned esp as I never received an invite for the extended warranty.

Apparently there are 2 makes of flywheel (one £100 more expensive than the other) - anyone know which one is best as more expensive may not mean more reliable.

I'll let you all know how it pans out.

I went to my friendly Skoda dealer today and they want the car in on Friday to investigate a suspected DMF and as the turbo is whistling it's nuts off they will be investigating that too.

Mine is 15 months old and 63,000 on the clock.

And the faulty auto wipers/lights

And the knackered door trim where one rests his elbow when driving

Can I blag a new Superb for the day I wonder?

UPDATE - Replacement DMF and clutch.

Skoda UK more or less immediatly offered to pay 70% of the parts and labour as a goodwill gesture - thats a result in my book.

Dealer has also been pretty good in realising other work wasnt needed so to them to.

Lets hope it solves the problem its going in towards the end of next week.

I'll let you all know how it goes.