Went to have a nosey around some BMWs on the weekend, quite interested in the 118d due to the tax issues. I mean wanting to save the world with a low Co2 car!

GF would be driving it mostly and we want something bigger and faster than her current fester.

I know there are better places to ask this question but does anyone know when the 118d engine was revised to fit in the lower tax bracket, £35.00 a year??

Also I thought I would have been besieged by sales people as we were the only people there on Saturday and spent quite a long time looking at the 1 series (and an X3 :sofahide: ) I mustn't have looked like a typical BMW buyer in my combats, Berghaus fleece and trainers

The revision was around April/May 2007 , went up to 143BHP from 122.

They also revised the 120d up to 177BHP

mustn't have looked like a typical BMW buyer in my combats, Berghaus fleece and trainers

Too many car salesmen make that mistake. Typical [insert car brand] buyers can look like anything. Put it this way, I ddon't get dressed up to go car shopping.

My local VW dealer lost a sale of a GT TDI that way.

BMW have been pretty good to me to be fair, but right now I can't justify throwing the sort of money being asked at a new car when I have an older one (and that's still pretty new) that will do just fine.

As long as the current one keeps running happily all will be good for another year

The vRS Octy CR TDI is only £120 a year tax!

The vRS Octy CR TDI is only £120 a year tax!

Does it go up next year though? The GF says the Octavia is too big and I would prefer the depreciation on a nearly new BMW than an Octavia.

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band CO2 2009-10 2010-11

A (<101) £0 £0

B (101-110) £20 £20

C (111-120) £30 £35

D (121-130) £90 £95

E (131-140) £110 £115

F (141-150) £120 £125

G (151-160) £150 £155

H (161-170) £175 £180

I (171-180) £205 £210

J (181-200) £260 £270

K (201-225) £300 £310

L (225-255) £415 £430

M (>255) £440 £455

The current 118d produces 123g/km so still pretty good for a 144BHP derv

My local VW dealer lost a sale of a GT TDI that way.

BMW have been pretty good to me to be fair, but right now I can't justify throwing the sort of money being asked at a new car when I have an older one (and that's still pretty new) that will do just fine.

As long as the current one keeps running happily all will be good for another year

To be honest the Fester has another year yet before it's first MOT so we''ll be waiting til then. I was waiting for the salesman to come galloping out as we there a while but nothing! He may have got us into a 118d M-Sport in blue that we were very interested in unti we got in it and it stank of cigarettes.

I was quite suprised whilst wandering around the forecourt as we could probably afford around 60-70 percent of his used stock, BMWs aren't as expensive as I thought!

Any 1 series owners care to comment on servicing costs??

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band CO2 2009-10 2010-11

A (<101) £0 £0

B (101-110) £20 £20

C (111-120) £30 £35

D (121-130) £90 £95

E (131-140) £110 £115

F (141-150) £120 £125

G (151-160) £150 £155

H (161-170) £175 £180

I (171-180) £205 £210

J (181-200) £260 £270

K (201-225) £300 £310

L (225-255) £415 £430

M (>255) £440 £455

The current 118d produces 123g/km so still pretty good for a 144BHP derv

Cheers for that, I was sure the 118d only kicked out 119gm. Am I thinking of some sort of BMW equivalent to Greenline or Bluemotion model??

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The current 118d produces 119g/km so still pretty good for a 144BHP derv

D'oh

Tidied it up a bit, some sources state 123g/km but the BMW site stats 119g/km :confused:

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The current 118d produces 123g/km so still pretty good for a 144BHP derv

Nope the current one produces 119g/km.

IIRC that is from 2007 MY onwards, however before that it was 123g/km.

Was a small tweak to the engine to get it into the £35 tax band.

Any 1 series owners care to comment on servicing costs??

I have a 118d, after 2 Octi's and love the can, so much more "precise" on the B roads that I spend most of my time on and just feels more "mature".

One or two comments.

Higher headline price but don't expect cost of ownership over 3 years to be any more than the 1.9 Octi's I had.

You won't get teh economy that its says in the literature, but then that is true of any car. I average about 48 with 143 horses while the Octi did about 45 in the same conditions with 105 BHP. my daily commute of 37 miles is 90% on B roads.

done about 15,000 so can't comment on the servicing cost yet but will be disappointed if they are too much more than previous motors.

Mine is an Msport and the ride is fairly firm and can be a bit harsh over big potholes - but boy does it go round corners!.

Ride probably suffers from the run flat tyres. Owner changing to normal tyres say it transforms the ride - on the down side you have to carry a can of tyre weld/air and BMW assist will not come near you if you have a puncture!

Try this site for more comments - a decent forum but not as well populated as Briskoda (hence i'm still here!!) BMW 1 Series • Index page

I researched the servicing costs.

If you do it by paying as it it's a bit cheaper or similar to the octy II if you take a package out it's much better value than the octy.

That included services at 12.5k too rather than the longer interval for an octy II on variable.

Worth phoning a dealer and asking for the price of a service.

I had a first service earlier this year and it was around £220 I think. That included a loaner if I wanted, a valet (wit optional free buns and coffee) a litre of spare oil (in a posy pouch…awaits comments and misquotes) a litre of concentrated screenwash and a goodlooking service chap thrown in for free.

Not too bad for a 200+bhp BMW really. And before anyone starts with their modified cars being similar power and cheaper to service, I can chip mine to 250+ if I want and the service cost will be the same.

I should also mention I am on variable servicing.

Tax is only £115 too (and thats the legal cost as per it's true emissions test)

I had a first service earlier this year and it was around £220 I think. That included a loaner if I wanted, a valet (wit optional free buns and coffee) a litre of spare oil (in a posy pouch…awaits comments and misquotes) a litre of concentrated screenwash and a goodlooking service chap thrown in for free. [/font][/color]

I should also mention I am on variable servicing.

Tax is only £115 too (and thats the legal cost as per it's true emissions test)

Not too bad, the second service on the 1.25 Fiesta we have was £170.00 IIRC so a 118d wouldn't be too far away.

Not too bad, the second service on the 1.25 Fiesta we have was £170.00 IIRC so a 118d wouldn't be too far away.

My cars a 123D so I don’t know if the servicing is the same cost, I would assume it is pretty much the same though.

The nextr service should be the same cost too, meaning over 3 years average mileage driving the servicing would be £440 at my local BMW dealer, not bad really. Trouble is I am doing around 20K miles a year and after the second service there is an interim inspection service. This is possibly were the costs may go up depending what they find needs doing. One good thing is the chain driven cams, at least there is no need to change it (hopefully)

The bottom line is after a year, I still enjoy driving the car and still find little bits of road where the handling reminds you it drven from the rear end That might not be such a good thing at this time of year of course:(

60k /3year service pack was about £500 IIRC if you're worried, assuming it isn't on offer at the moment.

60k /3year service pack was about £500 IIRC if you're worried, assuming it isn't on offer at the moment.

local dealer is currently offering 5 yrs free servicing on all new BMWs.

Don't know if this is a national offer and presume there will be a milage limit, but even if restricted to 60K its got to be worth £7-800+

The free servicing is good if they also give you discount also. It's a buyers market out there.

I did have a 118d loan car recently and was impressed by it. I love my 1 series and I would say it's one of the best cars I've owned to date.

It feels special to drive, I just love it!!! I would go as far to say I love it as much as when I had an M3 and it's a lot cheaper to run!

The new face lift ones have Effeciency Dynamics which include stop start. It takes some getting used to the engine cutting out when you stop and put it in neutral and then start again when you press the accelerator!

Have you test driven one yet?

Unless you are a company car buyer or enjoy eating lentils I would ignore the 118d and go for the 120d or the much nicer looking 320d. There are loads about and with 160 and then 177bhp you have a genuine 140 mph car that will still do 55 mpg. MY choice would be to get hold of a BMW D3 Alpina saloon or Touring. Can only get them from Sytner garages but 200 bhp and real exclusivity.New they are actually cheaper than BMWs M Sport 320d. Don't know about used. My tip for a future classic and would really like one myself. If you enjoy driving though go for a used 330i petrol: terrific engine. Forget the green propaganda/ tax, come on life is too short!!!

It's for my other half to drive the majority of the time, she would be quite happy with an Astra or Focus. The only reason i'm winning her round with the BMW is the tax per year and the money you would lose on a Ford or Vauxhall is going to be a lot more than a BMW.

Haven't test driven one yet, been looking at them on the Trader and we were passing Boldon BMW the other weekend with some time to kill so popped in.

I think the Efficiency Dynamics stop/start is what helped it make the 119g/km to squeeze it into the lower tax band.

It's for my other half to drive the majority of the time, she would be quite happy with an Astra or Focus. The only reason i'm winning her round with the BMW is the tax per year and the money you would lose on a Ford or Vauxhall is going to be a lot more than a BMW.

Haven't test driven one yet, been looking at them on the Trader and we were passing Boldon BMW the other weekend with some time to kill so popped in.

I think the Efficiency Dynamics stop/start is what helped it make the 119g/km to squeeze it into the lower tax band.

All the efficient dynamics stuff works fine once you get used to it. When driving SWIMBO's renault cabrio skip I now worry when it doesn't cut out at the lights!!

The benefits of stop/start are obviously more with a lot of town driving. It can be a bit intrusive when crawling along in a que but you can turn it off.

It's for my other half to drive the majority of the time, she would be quite happy with an Astra or Focus. The only reason i'm winning her round with the BMW is the tax per year and the money you would lose on a Ford or Vauxhall is going to be a lot more than a BMW.

Haven't test driven one yet, been looking at them on the Trader and we were passing Boldon BMW the other weekend with some time to kill so popped in.

I think the Efficiency Dynamics stop/start is what helped it make the 119g/km to squeeze it into the lower tax band.

If it is for the wife and excellent emissions and economy are what you want, I would recommend the MINI Cooper D. This has the efficient dynamics and can easily do 60 mpg + 109 g/km for the manual and great to drive. Holds its value well too.

Ahh but the mini has limited shopping space... which is good or bad depending on how you look at it