Having gone from OEM Continental Sportcontact 2's to Toyo Proxes, to Goodyear GSD3's I had high hopes for this performance tyre (as opposed to a budget tyre).

Not very good in the cold are they ! Wheels seem to spin much more easily when temperatures are <5 degrees. Also had a moment last week coming home around a corner I have traveled hundred's of times before when the front let go completely (thankyou ESP).

Anyone else have similar issues with the GSD3 in the cold ?

Think I'm going back to the Toyo's onces these have worn out.

Cheers.

RBW.

I thought my GSD3's were brilliant...

Still prefer my Uniroyal Rainsports though

Can't fault them so far (GSD3s) good in the wet and dry and no problem with the cold so far, mind you only down to -3 so far......I have noticed how greasy the roads are just lately so that may have some bearing on the road holding

never had any issues with mine on either the skoda or the mazda.

GSD3 are Mustard compared to my old Bridgestone er300

Having gone from OEM Continental Sportcontact 2's to Toyo Proxes, to Goodyear GSD3's I had high hopes for this performance tyre (as opposed to a budget tyre).

Not very good in the cold are they ! Wheels seem to spin much more easily when temperatures are <5 degrees. Also had a moment last week coming home around a corner I have traveled hundred's of times before when the front let go completely (thankyou ESP).

Anyone else have similar issues with the GSD3 in the cold ?

Think I'm going back to the Toyo's onces these have worn out.

Cheers.

RBW.

Yep. If you had searched the millions of threads on the subject you would have found out that the F1's are infact totally lethal in the cold. God help you if you have to use them in the snow.

The are good in the summer though but you probably have to wait around six months to see this.

i had no issues in the snow either decron in either car, not talking applying power either i mean braking and cornering.

Last year I had a few bad experiances in my VRS and there are many on here who have said the same with them. I took them off the Roomster before it got too cold this year.

It's a shame because in all other aspects they are excellent

Out of interest, why did you decide to fit these when the Toyos wore out?

I thought they were good when I had them on the Ibiza, but totally agree with the snow comment!

But for me, the Toyos are just as good, and £20 a corner cheaper.

Steve

Steve, I needed the fronts quickly, and the GSD3's were in stock, but as you say £20 per corner extra.

Its interesting that there are such varied views on them, but It doesn't change that I am quite disappointed in the performance in the cold. Fortunately my fronts normally last just 14,000 miles whatever I put on, so will change them in a couple of months. I just need to re-adjust my driving until they are worn out. My work trip is half motorway, half back road blasting and I do 'make progress'. Interestingly the rears are still on originals after 45K miles.

I just hope I don't stuff it in a hedge in the meantime (Decron, I take your point about swapping them, and have done on a previous car when I thought budget tyres might be a good idea until I went round a corner - will wait and see if I have another 'moment').

Cheers for all opinions.

My next thread will be... "Can I sue Goodyear for stuffing my car into a hedge...."

RBW.

We fit winter tires whenever the temperature reaches below 7°C. They are much softer and have different type of rubber compound suitable for lower temperature. If you have a lot of days/nights that get below 7°C you should try fitting winter tires.

I have used Goodyear Eagle Ultra Grip and Pirelli 210 Snowsport. Both are pretty good, but the Pirellis are heavier.

Mine are great in the cold. I did read about quality issues with GSD's manufactured in Asia which don't have an 'e' stamp on them.

Might be worth a check.

Mine are great in the cold. I did read about quality issues with GSD's manufactured in Asia which don't have an 'e' stamp on them.

Might be worth a check.

That sounds about right I heard something about the Asian GSD3s bad in the snow, The Germany made GSD3s are good allround

That sounds about right I heard something about the Asian GSD3s bad in the snow, The Germany made GSD3s are good allround

Asian market not "E" or "CE" marked ones are all round bad. All GSD3s are crap in snow. This goes for any summer tyre but especially the GSD3s.

Cold (<5deg), damp, horrible, slushy winter days, you'd be better off with winter tyres.

J.

Yep, there's no getting around the fact that a 'performance' orientated tyre won't be much cop below 5 deg. If they put enough silica in the compound to make the tread work in colder conditions, it would then warm up too much in more normal UK temperatures.

You can't have everything

Steve

Uniroyal Rainsports FTW again

Michelin PE2's FTW !

This might sound overly critical, but if your front tyres lost all grip, then surely you were going too fast. GSD3's might not be that good in the cold, but if they completely slid out on you, as you suggest, and it was less than 5C, you probably hit a patch of semi/frozen water aka ice and the best winter tyres in the world wouldn't have saved you.

I grew up running 145 wide tyres on a heavy Swedish car and they gripped on most things, but there were limits. When I swapped them out for 'performance' 165mm tyres I was truly shocked at how much earlier the grip disappeared in icy conditions.

With our (in comparison) massive 205/215mm tyres, I'm always aware that I have to be careful of driving through corners at spring/summer/autumn speeds in the winter. A corner that was an easy 55mph touching both apexes suddenly becomes a 30mph corner when the inside apex has a patch of ice on it and you have to use the gritted strip down the middle.

Just a thought...

Fine tyres once the temperatures are high enough, rain or dry grip and cornering was good, when cold they were awful and I had different tyres put on that same week.

I have GSD3s fitted and drove to work this morning with ice all over the road and can't say I had any brown-pant moments. I have dropped 30 - 35% of my speed compared to summer, though. I expect very little grip from any tyre when the temperature is anywhere below 3-4 degrees C. I've had one accident due to ice/water and won't be having another one (hopefully).

I had f1 goodyears on front werent to clever, got toyo proxies now much better when first got but now weather is colder not so good is it really just the cold weather?

need rears soon should i stick with the toyos in preperation for warmer weather or get something else?

Drive to work this morning was in an inch of snow, slush and ice at 0 deg C and the

GSD3s were spot on, no probs at all.

All this talk of "brown trousers moments" has got me wondering if people are adapting their driving styles enough to suit the adverse conditions. From some of the crazy antics seen today I reckon this could be the case.

Another vote for Rainsport's. Very good in all weathers, not at all noisy and wear well as well.