How about a belt driven supercharger. Moons ago a kit was available for the Morris 1000 which doubled the horse power. It involved nothing more tham bolting it on and plumbing up to the rejetted carb. IIRC it was made by Shorrock

The big issue with a Shorrock supercharger kit these days would be finding one in the first place.

The big issue with a Shorrock supercharger kit these days would be finding one in the first place.

old school shorrock c75 vane superchargers fetch a fotune now when they pop up on ebay

its injection for a start wot are u lot on bout. im a merchacin and a gd one at that. all the **** u are talkin bout is crap the more air u can get in to the engin the more feul is use there for given u more power. so when u have the eram fitted at

full throttle the eram push more air down the manfoled there for useing more petrol witch gives u more power

Oh god... here we go!

You might like to try and help your case by writing it in English, oh and some facts would help too.

BTW, I'm not qualified as a mechanic, but mates who are reckon I'm about as good as they are. Also, I'm smart enough to know to take advice etc from people like Dave Vizard, Dave Walker and Gerard Sauer when it's offered. 2, if not all 3. of them are university qualified automotive engineers, which when it comes to modifying an engine trumps a C&G cert!

i'm actually thinking of a little steam boost to increase the air density which is supposed to give you more power and FE without increasing the fuel consumption and just reading the post i was thinking if it could be possible disassembly of a turbo and hooking up the air blower to the belt drive, only drawback is i think you would need to remove the compressor to get the space needed, and thinking about the compressor (AC) what volume of air does that handle?, could there be such a compressor that you can actually use that as a charger system ?

just throwing weird ideas into the mix, but is all about pumping more air in (or more air density)

I've never heard of actual steam injection before, but water injection as an anti-detonation measure on really high boost turbo engines isn't unknown.

its injection for a start wot are u lot on bout. im a merchacin and a gd one at that. all the **** u are talkin bout is crap the more air u can get in to the engin the more feul is use there for given u more power. so when u have the eram fitted at

full throttle the eram push more air down the manfoled there for useing more petrol witch gives u more power

so as a top mechanic i'd like you to make an estimate as to how much volume or air you'd need to actually pressure charge an engine:)

a rough rule of thumb is for a 2.0 engine to make about 7psi above atmosphere you need about the same volume as a transit van every second... i admit a 1300 engine will need less (maybe an escort van) but if you are saying a little computer fan can move this volume of air then do it.... quids in, happy days i say, cheap reliable supercharging:)

as an aside note from this, you won't make many friends on here with an attitude like that

i'm actually thinking of a little steam boost to increase the air density which is supposed to give you more power and FE without increasing the fuel consumption and just reading the post i was thinking if it could be possible disassembly of a turbo and hooking up the air blower to the belt drive, only drawback is i think you would need to remove the compressor to get the space needed, and thinking about the compressor (AC) what volume of air does that handle?, could there be such a compressor that you can actually use that as a charger system ?

just throwing weird ideas into the mix, but is all about pumping more air in (or more air density)

using steam as a method of increasing density of air may not be as daft as it sounds, i suppose techinically speaking water contains more oxygen by weight than the fresh air you breath does, and that is exactly the same principle as using nitrous oxide, but i fear that water being wet:rolleyes: will just put out the spark...

in regards to using a coompressor turbine from a turbocharger, look up 'centrifugal supercahrger' on the net, that is basically what they are.. it's a nice idea but to get any kind of pressure from it you would need to engineer some kind of gear system to spin it faster (a lot faster in fact).. you need it to do maybe 50,000rpm..

an ac compressor wouldn't work, they are normally vane type pumps which are designed to push refrigarent in it's liquid state, the refrigerant is only in it's gaseous state when it's inside the evaporator thanks to the expansion valve, and then gets turned back into liquid in the condensor and and back to the pump under low pressure and so on... the ac pump just simply wouldn't turn fast enough, and also they need to be full of liquid for them to actually pump anything iirc (maybe ross can confirm this, i'm not an aircon expert)... but you are thinking along the right lines

using steam as a method of increasing density of air may not be as daft as it sounds, i suppose techinically speaking water contains more oxygen by weight than the fresh air you breath does, and that is exactly the same principle as using nitrous oxide, but i fear that water being wet:rolleyes: will just put out the spark...

in regards to using a coompressor turbine from a turbocharger, look up 'centrifugal supercahrger' on the net, that is basically what they are.. it's a nice idea but to get any kind of pressure from it you would need to engineer some kind of gear system to spin it faster (a lot faster in fact).. you need it to do maybe 50,000rpm..

an ac compressor wouldn't work, they are normally vane type pumps which are designed to push refrigarent in it's liquid state, the refrigerant is only in it's gaseous state when it's inside the evaporator thanks to the expansion valve, and then gets turned back into liquid in the condensor and and back to the pump under low pressure and so on... the ac pump just simply wouldn't turn fast enough, and also they need to be full of liquid for them to actually pump anything iirc (maybe ross can confirm this, i'm not an aircon expert)... but you are thinking along the right lines

yeah, i know, the way superchargers are built the move a lot of air at arround 50K rpm that is latter converted to presure and fed to the intake, i was just thinking maybe it can be constructed and mounted instead of the AC compresor

i was thinking of fitting a l tube down the carb main and secondary (or maybe just one) and having a heat exchange in the exhaust water gets pretty hot there (thou i dont know about the actual degree) and the suction when you open up the carb is what govern the amount of steam, of course, the heat transfer and the water reservour should be level and bellow the ventury, and also a little reservoir has to sit between them and the "steam jet" nozel, that way when you accelerate no "wet" or non "gaseous state droplets" go into the carb and the succion doent have to move all of the water mass, it should be right below the fuel jet, that way, the fuel caches the steam's heat, is futher vaporized and mixed, when it reaches the compression chamber everything is well atomized and bonded at the right rate

here is a very (very, very) rough shetch that i made to explain the system..

the blue is the water reservoir, level with the heat exchange, the blue line is the fresh water feed line

the red is the heat exchange, wrapted in the exhaust, the yellow is the steam feed line to the reservoir

the brown is the reservoir, it colects the steam (buffers it)

now the black is a tube that get the air from the intake, when there is enough air flow to receive ram effect, and if not, it lets the unused steam escape

the brown line is the nozell that goes down the carburetor and get in the path of the fuel jet (without blocking it)

if things work out the way i think, the mass of flowing air is the governing and driving factor for the steam...

love to get feedback out of this crazy idea, i bet i can work with fuel injected model as well

just posted, went to the bathroom and while in the throne i came up with a better idea, richer drier steam and the plus part is that you dont get any water waste so the water you use will last longer, and the way i see it, you can have a very large reservoir. but i order to work i just need to know the exhaust gases temp and volume @ idle and @ cruise

in fact, if water vapor does give a significant improvement i wish to patent my idea (anyone willing to help?)

ok, i can't think of a diplomatic way of putting this..... forget it!!! it won't work

ok, i can't think of a diplomatic way of putting this..... forget it!!! it won't work

ok, you said it well enough, its forgoten