Why do i have a problem with camber! on my coilovers! knowone else seems to have a problem with camber after lowering on coilovers.

Driving me insane!

Well obviously the suspension geometry has been changed. I take it the wheels are lying IN too much at the TOP?

Have you got a print out of your geometary specs?

Had your toe adjusted?

the lower you drop it , the more negative camber you will have , nothing you an do about it , unless you fit adjustable top shocker mounts

I have the same problem is there such thing for the fabia..............Que jabba please

I'm in the same boat here tooo...............the inside of my tyres wear faster than the rest of the tyre.

Been told I can't get the camber adjust because of the way the fabia suspension is or something:S

Been told you need a camber adjustment kit

Any1 any info?

Why do i have a problem with camber! on my coilovers! knowone else seems to have a problem with camber after lowering on coilovers.

Driving me insane!

Cant believe it.... !!!

Me and Mr Posty were talking about this on the phone today however I believe he is running OEM suspension and I am on KW V1 coilovers.

We both agreed (after he explain what negative camber is) that theres pretty much naff all we can do about it.

I discovered this after having the wheels lazer aligned.

Is anybody else with OEM suspension having this problem ????

Mr Posty told me he had just fitted some new tyres (On OEM suspension) a month before he drove through Germany and he had his tread measured whilst he was there and he'd lost 4mm on the inside of the tyre.

negative camber ftw!

i have plenty negative camber but my tyres havent been wearing unevenly.

the only issue i found when going so low was the front wheels started to toe out vastly, some alignment adjustment sorted this problem tho.

Just been on the phone...

(thats dog & bone for the people down south) to Sarah at Awesome GTI shes says they can get hold of these camber kits and theyre about £60 without VAT

Theyre not sure how long it will take to fit so she's asking a Tech then getting back to me.

keep me updated on this^^^

Some eccentric top mounts would be a good idea, depends on how much room there is at the top of the suspension turret though for adjustability as I haven't had a look before.

Hi

I am looking in to this for you

Lots of calls

The ones that I was quoted are for the rears from Whiteline , and I have a set in boot of my car

But will not fit the fronts , as I was quoted from them :(

But am looking in to something else just now

Top mounts are not available as the Fabia`s have a ridge on the top of the top mounts

So , we are still on it

Sarah

This could get interesting and expensive. If the top mount cannot be moved out, then the lower mount (Balljoint) is going to have to be moved inward, or the wishbone modified.

Some rough calculations show that to reduce camber by just one degree, would require the balljoint or wishbone to be moved inboard by 4mm each side. Obviously to remove two degrees camber, you would need 8mm movement each side.

Problem is, you are reducing the front track of the car, which means the ARB is going to be the wrong length, along with the steering arms. There may be enough adjustment on the track rod ends to cure the steering geometry, but it's still a lot of work.

Certainly wont be done with a few washers that's for sure.

If the strut to hub carrier fixing is the same as the Octy 1, I think you could get some camber adjustment by elongating the bolt holes. Whether that's a good idea, even with penny washers or re-enforcing plates I leave to people with more experience and expertise, and since Sarah's already on the case...

Cant believe it.... !!!

Me and Mr Posty were talking about this on the phone today however I believe he is running OEM suspension and I am on KW V1 coilovers.

Do you believe the moon is made of cream cheese

Mr Posty told me he had just fitted some new tyres (On OEM suspension) a month before he drove through Germany and he had his tread measured whilst he was there and he'd lost 4mm on the inside of the tyre.

no he Isn't and no he didn't

Mr. Posty is running FSD's and Eibachs so a 25mm drop, which is what he asked if you was running to explain the tyre wear, As for loosing 4mm that was from the entire tyre tread from new ie approx 9mm down to 5mm after 5000 miles mostly on the continent and I mentioned it to show how soft and short lived Toyo's are. The inside was much lower due to neg camber. but you pays your money. And just as an aside my camber is within the limit set down, albeit on the edge of the limit.......... :P

Andrew

Spoke with Sarah earlyer she said that one of her Tech'y type guys that dont see much daylight had an idea regarding the track rod ends which refers to MoggyTechs post above.

Fingers crossed something can be done cos my tyres are in good nick but wearing too quick on the inside wall.

If the strut to hub carrier fixing is the same as the Octy 1, I think you could get some camber adjustment by elongating the bolt holes.

i know what you mean , but no its not

This could get interesting and expensive. If the top mount cannot be moved out, then the lower mount (Balljoint) is going to have to be moved inward, or the wishbone modified.

Some rough calculations show that to reduce camber by just one degree, would require the balljoint or wishbone to be moved inboard by 4mm each side. Obviously to remove two degrees camber, you would need 8mm movement each side.

Problem is, you are reducing the front track of the car, which means the ARB is going to be the wrong length, along with the steering arms. There may be enough adjustment on the track rod ends to cure the steering geometry, but it's still a lot of work.

Certainly wont be done with a few washers that's for sure.

but isn't it true that when the car was lowered the track goes bigger anyway, so all you will be doing is putting it back nearer to the standard track

you could probably elongate the holes on the wishbone where the balljoint mounts to move it in that way , or maybe see if there is a shorter wishbone in the VAG parts bin

but isn't it true that when the car was lowered the track goes bigger anyway, so all you will be doing is putting it back nearer to the standard track

you could probably elongate the holes on the wishbone where the balljoint mounts to move it in that way , or maybe see if there is a shorter wishbone in the VAG parts bin

I don't really see why people are having camber issues after lowering. If all that is done to lower is a shorter spring, then no geometry angles should change, if the strut and balljoint are assembled correctly. The lowering should be a result of the reduction in spring force versus car weight.

There will of course be a slight camber change, as the lower reference point (balljoint) is at the end of the wishbone, which will sit slightly higher, and that is part of a small radius curve, from the wishbone inner mountings, but the overall angular position of the strut should change only very slightly, as it sits fairly upright as standard.

If I had the kind of camber issues as mentioned by the OP, I would be having a serious look at (a) The quality of the parts fitted and ( is everything put back together properly.

I purchased the adjustable KW top mounts from jabba, there not the easiest to fit, but then i cant get my car low enough, because they are deeper than oem top mounts. PITA

I wonder just how much camber change a given lowering will cause in a strut suspension. Using constant units, you'll get it from Arctan ( Amount lowered / distance from chassis pivot to wheel mounting flange ). If you're working it out using computer software or programming languages rather than a pocket calculator, remember that they work in radians, not degrees!

Aghhhhh Techy speak !!!

I need a translator now to understand what you guys are saying :confused:

edited as didnt read quoted post properly and dont want to look like a Tit haha

I purchased the adjustable KW top mounts from jabba, there not the easiest to fit, but then i cant get my car low enough, because they are deeper than oem top mounts. PITA

what sus have you got. i was thinking of geting some of theres but am using fk coilovers and didnt think thay would fit