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Further to my chasing a noise post, I need to update things.

When moving the car backwards and forwards, and braking gently, there is a clunk/click noise. there is a grating noise when moving off, and there is a clunk when turning sharply. Hopefully the noise can get tracked down before the warranty expires.

Any assistance would be appreciated:thumbup:

  • 2 weeks later...

Could be worn out brake pads.

Could be broken suspension spring or shocks gone? - my wife's Fabia had the front spring go and this made similar noises to this, with the state of all of our roads after the bad winter I wouldn't be surprised to be honest my wifes front shocks have just gone too and they clunk!

Good Luck

Rob

Sounds like brake pads moving in the calipers causing the clunking and clicking...perfectly normal depending how loud it is! But another source of noise such as this is the front anti-roll bar bushes. These also have the effect of making a clicking, creaking, clunking or grating noise as you move, turn or stop sometimes. Bushes may need replacing or just a spray with a rubber lube. Shouldn't be anything serious. I note the date of the original post...is it sorted yet?

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I've got the car booked in at the Skoda garage again on the 24th, see what comes of that. I'll ask them to check the suspension components and anti-roll bar bushes, see what happens. If they can't bottom it out, I'll try the rubber lube on the bushes and see if that sorts it. Thanks for the suggestions RoBex and Estate Man:thumbup:. Will post again to let you know how it goes!

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Hi Guys,

well, I put the car in at my local garage again, this time I had arranged for them to have the car over the weekend and give it a coplete going over. I also asked them to check the suspension components to try and track down the noise. When I dropped the car off on the thursday afternoon, I even had a discussion about the noise to make sure we were on the same page. The trip computer read 100miles dead when I dropped it off. All day Friday, and Saturday, nothing. I rang them on Monday morning to find that the car was ready, but still the fault hadn't been tracked down. I went to pick the car up, and the notes (which I got them to photocopy) had "taken for road test, couldn't hear noise":mad: written on them. I said "did you check the suspension?" No, it wouldn't be the suspension on a car this new.:eek: So they didn't check what I asked them to check, but I figured, at least they have given it a good going over. . . Wrong, They took it for a 2.3 mile road test, on the Friday, then left it parked on their forecourt in a disabled space all weekend, not touching it again. Their advice to me was, let the noise develop some more. I asked them why they hadn't done more, and they said that because it was possibly a Warranty issue, they didn't want to start slinging parts at it in case Skoda didn't reimburse them for the part! And I thought Ford were hard work! So unfortunately I'm back to square 1, and in suck it and see territory.

Rockspider, this is indeed frustrating I know. However, it is unlikely to be anything very significant causing the noise...nothing obvious and not a safety issue. Although, if it is the anti-roll bar rubbers and the weather/roads were wet when the garage was testing the vehicle, it's possible the noise would not show itself as the water tends to lube the bushes temporarily mitigating the noise.

In my view it is almost certainly anti-rollbar or suspension related based upon your description. One other thing you could check maybe yourself is to see if any stones are trapped in the suspension strut turrets at the front around the base of the front springs. Sometime a stone can get under the base of the spring between the spring and the strut and make noise as you move the vehicle, brake and turn. But it is more likely to be the anti-roll bar bushes or the anchor bolts not torqued correctly just causing some creaking. This is not normally an issue with the Mk11 Fabia, unlike the Mk1 which suffered this sort of noise very frequently until it was sorted.

Keep us all informed mate! Follow the garage advice for the time being and don't worry too much about it. It will get worse and can be dealt with, or it will suddenly go away.

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Thanks for the words of support Estate man!

In my travels on the web, I've come across a website that has backed up another idea that I stumbled across on a VW forum after I Googled the noises. It refers to a broken or damaged Inner CV joint. It has a sound file on it (not a great one) but it's enough to get an idea. It sounds eerily like one of the noises mine makes.

Gerald's CV JOINTS!

Rockspider, yes that's a possibility. However, unless your vehicle has substantial miles on the clock I would not normally be looking in that area. CV's are amazing in their durability, but that's not to say it hasn't been faulty from new...usually insufficient grease causing early failure, or has been damaged in some way. In your case...worth checking if anti-roll bars check out ok. But if it was a CV, the garage would have found that one quite quickly I would have thought. It's easy to detect. It's probably more likely to be a wheel bearing than the CV. Does any noise show up whilst driving and cornering too, especially after cruising at motorway speeds?

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When I initially bought the car it was 11 months old, with about 20 000 on the clock (I know it seems high, but I don't do a great deal of mileage, so figured it would even out). On the test drive, it was pulling to the left slightly, which the salesman said was probably tracking (might have taken a clout to the wheel during the snow earlier in the year). When I collected the car, They told me they had adjusted the tracking, and had also replaced the tyre on the front passenger side due to excessive outer shoulder wear. This all seemed ok. I took the car on a motorway run (approx 110 mile round trip), and the noise surfaced. Incidentally, I've noticed a bit of a pattern. When the Furby has had the offending wheel jackked off the ground and put back down, the noise goes away, and then comes back over the course of approx a week. I'm also starting to get a bit of feedback through the steering wheel, similar to the feedback you get through the gearstick if you've ever ground the gears (I know I did a few times when learning to drive), so it definately feels like something is degrading. Will have to se what happens.

At 20,000 miles the car is just getting run-in nicely. But things are a bit clearer now regarding your noise. I assume you have told your garage about the raising the wheel thingy and the noise going away and coming back again after a week or so of use? If not...tell them. Now I know some history of the vehicle and a bit more about the symptoms, I believe you can say with some degree of certainty it is a damaged CV joint. But inner or outter? Could be either, but I suspect inner. Clobbering the kerb hard enough to bend the tracking out of alignment...not easy to do on a Skoda Fabia, could certainly damage a CV and/or wheel bearing, usually the outter wheel bearing. And you don't know how many times it may have been kerbed heavily.

At the stage your damaged part is at...it will be difficult to detect play caused by wear or damage. But it is worth checking this yourself...if you know how to jack the car up safely on the offending side. Once jacked up, grab the top and bottom of the wheel and gently pull the top of the wheel outwards while pushing the bottom of the wheel inwards. Do this in several places after rotating the wheel little by little. Pay attention to your own safety at all times if you are only on the jack. Also listen to the sound the wheel bearing make as you spin the wheel. It should be almost silent, no roughness heard or felt when moving the wheel round. Remember, disc pads may drag slightly and make some noise. MOST IMPORTANT...DO THIS TEST AFTER A LONGISH DRIVE AT REASONABLY GOOD SPEED. The grease in the bearings will be thinnest at this time and play will show up better. Taper roller wheel bearings are used on the Fabia and so you may just detect the merest hint of movement, but anymore than that, it should be adjusted or in this case, replaced to make sure you kill the noise. It's possible the outter CV is the damaged component and this needs a technician to detect the play, unless it is excessive and you will feel it yourself when rocking the wheel. But the garage would have found that I would have thought.

Based upon your description, if it's not a wheel bearing, then a new driveshaft with the CV's attached will cure it.

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Well, I've been in touch with the garage again, and they don't exactly seem to be forthcoming. They have asked me to e-mail them with what I have posted here, (all the info on the problem). However, they don't want to have it in again until it gets markedly worse, as "We don't get paid for diagnostics if we can't find a problem, and WE don't want to start throwing parts at it, because if Skoda don't agree that the part was defective, we won't get re-imbursed.":eek: I'm sure they'd be more than happy to throw any and all parts available at it if it was out of warranty and I was footing the bills:mad:. I may have to get in touch with Skoda UK I think, see if that gets me anywhere.

Is it just me, or are main agents developing a bit of a jobsworth culture?:thumbdwn:

  • 1 month later...
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Hi everyone. This is a final update on my problem. I have decided to admit defeat with this car, and I am getting rid of it. I've had enough of the problem, and the wrangling with Skoda, trying to get to the bottom of an issue that you don't expect from a vehicle so new.

Also, FYI, I'm switching back to Ford, as I've had the worst experience with this vehicle. Hopefully, I can draw a line under the experience.

So thanks for all the advice, but I've decided that this will alleviate the stress currently going on.

Thanks

Understood Rockspider, but a shame nonetheless. Your car can be fixed easily...however, good luck...and watch out for those Fords. They are the last car I would consider due to the 'revolutionary' (and most techs say 'flawed') new build and design techniques which make them impossible to repair cheaply eg. Diesel Mondeo new clutch and starter motor both weak on these cars, Ford insist these are replaced together for technical reasons, £2100 ford price (front suspension & steering subframe needs dropping and realigning afterwards = 9.1 hours work!). The whole range is going, or already has gone that way. :rotz:

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