had a jabba remap and upgraded clutch about six months ago, it dont hapen very oftn but when i have to balance the car on the clutch for a short period of time i can smell the clutch. is this because of the car producing high torque on no revs? but surly the upgraded clutch would cope with this? any help please?

My guess would be that it's just the different type of material smelling when it gets hot and isn't causing any lasting damage. My understanding is that there is next to no torque at 1000rpm.

Try flooring it in 4th or 5th from 35mph or so and see if the clutch slips at all.

Someone once told me to try that in a Fiesta . . . However they told me to do it from a stand still!

The mighty Fiesta clutch won the battle and was still going strong afterwards!

Thank god - it wasnt my car!

it dont slip. i wouldnt be happy if it was doin with the money i spent on gettin it upgraded.

Uprated clutches aren't really meant for town driving, they don't like having to hold/slip in traffic.

I had this problem with the skip until I adjusted my driving style in it ( i.e. drive it like a lunatic everywhere, and thank feck for bigger brakes...)

mines does it on a helix... i just sit on the foot brake

mines does it on a helix... i just sit on the foot brake

the Fabia does actually come supplied with a HANDBRAKE from the factory :P

Mine smells if you have to sit on biting point for more than a second or 2!

Handbrake:eek:, I thought that was for fast cornering, rally use only;)

Sorry but uprated clutches can be just absolutely perfectly fine for 'normal' driving. If you had the Sachs organic clutch with uprated pressure plate, that's exactly what you get.

A paddle/sintered one however is on/off and not particularly useful for 'normal' driving.

It is the exact reason why I didnt fit the second type at the time.

it only happens very occasionaly when i have to balance it for a couple of secs. glad to hear is sounds pritty normal and others get it to. just a case of changin my drivin style i think

When I drive a manual car, I never hold it on the clutch for any longer than necessary, and I slip it the absolute minimum when pulling away, only giving it full boot when it's fully engaged. I've only ever replaced clutches that have done near enough 100K, and I think that's the reason why. My late father-in-law got through clutches every 10k, as he used to slip it practically all the time.

Slippage (and the associated heat and wear) is what kills clutches usually. A lot of torque will make them slip when fully engaged, or possibly rip them apart when engaged, but so much is down to driving style. Just thing what is happening when you ride or slip the clutch- the flywheel and clutch cover are rotating at one speed, and the friction disc at another, while it's held partially against them. That produces wear and heat.

maybe your uprated clutch just started stinking a bit sooner? Whatever. Your best bet is to minimise the amount of slipping or riding of the clutch anyway. Treat the smell as a warning.

the Fabia does actually come supplied with a HANDBRAKE from the factory :P

handbrakes are for people who cant drive!!

the footbrake is for people who's handbrakes dont work (me being one of them )

Nothing wrong with using the handbrake IMHO. Especially when there is a bit of an incline involved. Holding the car on the clutch/accelerator is definitely a good and useful skill to have, and a needed one, but I wouldn't want to try that for a long time to be fair, say the light stays red for a few minutes.

If it is for a shortish period, then for sure, you'll do what is easiest

If the handbrake is used, it means your brake lights arent on. This can be courteous at night if the person behind you has stopped and your not moving for a short while due to traffic lights etc.. If the person behind you hasnt stopped, then you might prefer to put handbrake and footbrake on to ensure rear brake lights are shown.

Also, if someone hits you from behind and you have your handbrake on, if your foot slips off the brake (as it is likely to do) there is less chance of you being catapulted forward.

My clutch is standard, and its harder to engage when cold, and shudders a little. Once its warm its fine.

RBW,

Nothing wrong with using the handbrake IMHO. Especially when there is a bit of an incline involved. Holding the car on the clutch/accelerator is definitely a good and useful skill to have, and a needed one, but I wouldn't want to try that for a long time to be fair, say the light stays red for a few minutes.

If it is for a shortish period, then for sure, you'll do what is easiest

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Handbrake is the best (and safest) method. Being able to hold on the footbrake without rolling back is indeed a useful skill, but you'll fail a UK driving test...

hmm if its a short period i would just sit on the clutch...

longer periods id hold it on the brake with the clutch in... then get the bite nice and quick...

have never used a handbrake in 2 years... partly because my last 2 cars... the fabia doesnt work... and the 306's wasn't too clever i should really have a look into it.... hehe

:iagree:.

Handbrake is the best (and safest) method. Being able to hold on the footbrake without rolling back is indeed a useful skill, but you'll fail a UK driving test...

how is being able to hold the car still on the footbrake a skill?

how is being able to hold the car still on the footbrake a skill?

Holding it and then being able to pull away without rolling back on a slope is. It's something people increasingly do- badly- which is why the handbrake is better.

It can be useful to know how to do (if for instance, your handbrake cable breaks), but I personally think it's sloppy driving on a day to day basis.

Being able to set off on a hill from stationary without using the handbrake is a skill. I find it easy and can do it without thinking - as can you, I expect - but a LOT of drivers can't do it because they were never taught to.

Being able to set off on a hill from stationary without using the handbrake is a skill. I find it easy and can do it without thinking - as can you, I expect - but a LOT of drivers can't do it because they were never taught to.

Is this not called a hill start, which is part of the Driving test?

I tend to use my hand break allot especially in traffic, otherwise my foot aches.

Is this not called a hill start, which is part of the Driving test?

yes, but I don't recall specifically doing hill starts with my instructor although my dad took me to a local steep hill and made me practise until I had it down.

whilst I agree that quite a few people seem to roll backwards when setting off up a slope, I'm still not seeing how holding the car on a slope using the foot brake is a skill

yes, but I don't recall specifically doing hill starts with my instructor although my dad took me to a local steep hill and made me practise until I had it down.

whilst I agree that quite a few people seem to roll backwards when setting off up a slope, I'm still not seeing how holding the car on a slope using the foot brake is a skill

i think people are mixing the words up. i think they must mean competence not skill. A skill is something like being able to heel and toe, holding the car on biting point with the clutch and break is basic driving competence.

Is this not called a hill start, which is part of the Driving test?

Yes, but using the footbrake (and not the handbrake) to do so isn't part of the test.