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My mate has just came across a very cheap TDi engine, 40k miles on the clock, full service history, came out a 53 plate golf GT TDI, sure its the 150bhp version, 6 speed box aswell

Hes offered me it for next to nothing,

My engine is an SDi non turbo, really fancy this engine as 1 its cheap, 2 its gonna be rapid nippy with a remap.

Wot is needed for the conversion?

If anyone can give me a list of things im going to need to do the swap?

G

I wouldn't entertain this idea. Im no mechanic but i imagine It will cost a fair bit. Depending on your car you will need new clutch suspension brakes wiring maybe drivetrain which even if you can source cheaply you need someone to fit it unless your a mechanic and have unlimited access to a garage as it will take a while. I can't see it being a straight one for one swap but as I said I'm no mechanic. I have looked into doing something similar and it was going to cost me around £10k all in.

HTH

Carl :thumbup:

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Not specific, but I would have thought generally the engine with ancilleries and ECU plus the mounts, gearbox, drive shafts and probably the exhaust and inlet manifolds are all a starter. Plus the intercooler, and cooling system. There are probably also other parts that somebody who knows better will be able to tell you.

Also put a new clutch kit in while you've got it all out.

IIRC the TDI and SDI blocks are fairly similar so the fit itself shouldn't be too hard and if you can get the parts very cheap it shouldn't be too bad in terms of cost.

I'd agree; you'll need the driveshafts for sure, and that almost certainly means you'll need the Golf's hub carriers (easier than hybrid driveshafts), which in turn means you'll need the Golf's front discs and brake calipers (good idea anyway since you've more than doubled the power and torque from the SDi).

you'll need the cut out in the bumper as well for the intercooler, or maybe even a new bumper. As per the other comments you'll need engine gearbox ecu and all pipework inc intercooler and probably all the associated bits to the wheels.

Sounds like a nice plan but could cost a bit. Handling/stopping could be fun though without a few upgrades especially with a remap which would see you to normal VRS power levels.

I suspect the easiest way to make sure of getting all the bits required would be to cut the Golf off at the A-pillars and where the toeboard meets the flat floorpan, and take away the entire forward end.

you'll need the cut out in the bumper as well for the intercooler, or maybe even a new bumper. As per the other comments you'll need engine gearbox ecu and all pipework inc intercooler and probably all the associated bits to the wheels.

Sounds like a nice plan but could cost a bit. Handling/stopping could be fun though without a few upgrades especially with a remap which would see you to normal VRS power levels.

I'm not sure that the PD150 has a front mount IC and it might well be an SMIC.

I think if you can get the whole golf to strip and return a shelf and a willing mechanic or you/mate who are handy with tools then it could well be worth doing.

Suspension would need doing as the engine weights etc would change and as already stated the front brakes from the golf (312mm) could be used anyway so that's a big upgrade in stopping power.

Take the wheels from the golf so it will all fit under the wheels and job done.

I'm not sure that the PD150 has a front mount IC and it might well be an SMIC.

I think if you can get the whole golf to strip and return a shelf and a willing mechanic or you/mate who are handy with tools then it could well be worth doing.

Suspension would need doing as the engine weights etc would change and as already stated the front brakes from the golf (312mm) could be used anyway so that's a big upgrade in stopping power.

Take the wheels from the golf so it will all fit under the wheels and job done.

The golf PD150 comes with a FMIC

I would want the whole car there to be honest, not just the engine & box.

Better off trading up to a tdi.

Would a PD150 engine really be that much different from the SDI unit? Yes you need to consider the turbo and intercooler set up, but will the transmission exterior measurements be so much different? The important bit you'd need to make the job easy is the PD150 ECU, wiring loom from the Golf, and then there is the imobiliser issues to overcome, which possibly will also mean you lose your clocks unless you're handy with VAGCOM. This won't be a weekend job unless you're handy with the spanner!

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Cheers for everyones input, looks like its alot of work involved but im still keen.

Parts that i would get,

Engine, gearbox, ecu and i would be getting that for £150quid lol....

but theres a fair wack of other parts im gonna need as stated above,

Im no mechanic, but ive got a few mates that are, i know the easy things.

G

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