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Bonkers. The only reason to buy a Superb in the first place is that it can be had with one of the best 4 cyl diesel engines available at the time.

Every LPG "conversion" I've seen has been a bodge job involving expensive maintenance and fuel storage certification, poor LPG availability and route restrictions (tunnel). Most of the ones I've seen have given trouble at some time. The LPG tank takes up critical space. Finally, do you really trust our dear Govt to maintain the tax advantage?

Buy a diesel - they can't shift old Superbs (or new ones) so get what you want at a good price.

rotodiesel.

I'm with Roto on that one.

Interesting, if you take the time to read what's going on there rather than just skimming it and dismissing it out of hand... they're newly converting each car they sell with a sequential injection system, not the older troublesome vapourisor type that cause the blanket lpg=trouble stereotyping. These are the ones that use your cars current ECU and it's emissions system and dont technically need to run off of petrol even at startup, much more reliable than the old system and dont need any maintennance at all.

24 months warranty as standard with the car - I wouldnt really say no to it tbh.

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I believe they can convert all petrol skodas so you can enjoy driving without constant expensive visits to fill up

Whatever's the point? Why spend a pile of extra cash on a car which has cliff-edge depreciation? The payback sums versus the diesel just don't stack up.

Just buy the diesel and have done with it. Fully developed by VAG it's fixable anywhere and is a fully known quantity. Check out the hidden costs of LPG before you pay out silly money - tank certification, insurance, maintenance (and choice of outlets) etc.

There's no real point in buying a Superb without a diesel engine - it's the car's only saving grace other than legroom.

rotodiesel.

Yes, and to boot, it's only really worth buying if has the 1.9 engine and no DPF fitted! I made a bit of a mistake and bought the 2.5TDi but at least I didn't get the 2.0 with DPF.

I know a great deal about LPG, My previous car was a Octavia 1.6 which was converted back in 2001 with a grant from Powershift ( approx 800 towards cost of £1600).

I did over 150k but LPG has had its day. The diffenence between LPG and petrol/diesel is not worth it. Most garages are selling LPG above 55pence. LPG was supposed to stay below half of petrol but this has not happened. LPG does fewer MPG and therefore the benefits are removed.

Add this to the typical cost of coversion, limited range, lack of filling stations or (lack of cheap filling stations), loss of boot space or spare wheel and service costs then the whole excercise is worthless.

I got 250miles on one 48 litre (60ltank) costing approx £22-£25. I now get 350 miles to every £40, slightly less but then thats not adding all the other costs in.

Sorry LPG has had its day and most people with conversions now are changing to diesel when its time to there change car. FACT.

Sorry forgot to say, my coversion was a more modern system, not quite the sequential injection system but not the vaperiser. The firm went bust that made the equipment and so did the dealer. Parts were impossible to get and things do go wrong with these systems.

Just got back from cornwall without filling up and I did 45.9mpg towing and had torque, unlike my LPG car that pulled like a wet lettuce.

Moved on and up.

6k for a 03 superb!!!! I paid £6.8k for a 55 elegance 1.9 130bhp. Simply not value for money.

Kind Regards

That's a fantastic price for that car for luxury motoring!

The downside of the new diesels now is the DPF that's fitted. That's one of the reasons I have decided to keep my 55 plate 2.5TDi rather than replace it. A very big other reason would be the amount of cash to change for a new superb though because of the depreciation it's suffered the last 4 years. You've benefited from that though!

With current pricing, the only sensible use of LPG is to inject it into a diesel to get more power and cleaner burn - you can actually increase your mpg by ca 10% and that's after adding the diesel and LPG consumption. But there is the Eurotunnel prohibition (and they do check), and the cost outweighs benefits so no LPG thank you.

I for once am happy with the 2.5TDI V6, but then I have a requirement of being able to maintain 100mph+ average speeds across Europe, and 130mph+ across Germany. 1.9 130PD cannot do it.

With current pricing, the only sensible use of LPG is to inject it into a diesel to get more power and cleaner burn - you can actually increase your mpg by ca 10% and that's after adding the diesel and LPG consumption. But there is the Eurotunnel prohibition (and they do check), and the cost outweighs benefits so no LPG thank you.

I for once am happy with the 2.5TDI V6, but then I have a requirement of being able to maintain 100mph+ average speeds across Europe, and 130mph+ across Germany. 1.9 130PD cannot do it.

I've had 135mph out of my 1.9 TDi 130 .... but didn't push it any further. I was running out of motorway coming up to my exit at the time. In fairness the car didn't have that much more to give. Maybe another 5mph perhaps and you wouldn't want to run it for long periods at that speed. I'd reckon if you wanted to cruise at 130+ you'd need the 2.5. Had a series III land rover converted to lpg for a while, never thought much of the conversion even though fuel was cheap at the time. Nowadays I see little point in LPG.

I've had 135mph out of my 1.9 TDi 130 .... but didn't push it any further. I was running out of motorway coming up to my exit at the time..

Don't you mean Autobahn ? :rolleyes:

Autobahn is what you get for testing it in the UK.

rotodiesel.

Don't you mean Autobahn ? :rolleyes:

Actually it was an Autobahn as it happens. :thumbup:

I meant cruising above 110mph-120mph is a struggle with PD, while you still have useful acceleration with 2.5TD.

I meant cruising above 110mph-120mph is a struggle with PD, while you still have useful acceleration with 2.5TD.

Oh yeah I agree. Like I said at 130+ you could tell it didn't have a huge amount more to give. :( ...... still not bad for saying I was in 2nd gear. :rofl:

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LPG (Vauxhall Vectra Sri) - great if you buy it from new.... put in by the manufacturer and dont pay a premium for it, are quite happy with a spare wheel in yer boot (as the tank went underneath where the spare wheel was) and are not bothered as to why one day a 55 litre tank will take 25 litres from empty to 'fill', then the next time 45....??

Cheap motoring - not as cheap as you think - car compooters seem to get all devilled up with mpg readouts.. and lastly, yep range.... about 220 miles..:(

Then there's finding a garage.... you get filthy looks from people when you go around them to fill up at the LPG pump.. and thats a farce... If a petrol station has 10 pumps and one customer, you can bet they are blocking access to the one LPG pump... and then the time taken to fill it.... but thats okay cos every time you do you'll engage in conversation normally with the village thats missing an idiot about how much it costs to run etc etc....

Pumps are getting harder to find..

Eventually you forget to put petrol in the car so one day, it dont start...:rofl:

So 220 miles in a Vectra cost £20/21 at the garage.. (plus you do use petrol to start..) drives excellent at speed, but you get shaken to bits unless the road is uber smooth...

550 (made up from 20 miles to and from work) miles in a Superb is £60..... and thats a 2.0TDi... and we just glide along...

Servicing.. an extra £90 for the LPG part.. Did 100K in the car from new.. only problems were fixed under warranty - new tank at 25K and valves.. the first one just wasnt right... lots of taking the car back.. fortunately under warranty.. 25K - 100k - no problems..

Come to sell the car - dealer cannot give a price.. cos its not in Glasses.. so I exchanged with the dealer, them using the cost of a petrol version.. granted.. I could have put an ad in Autotrader etc etc...

LPG wasnt exactly half price motoring... great with a petrol Range Rover... great if you dont have to pay for it in the first place... great if you dont mind taking ages to fill up, visiting garages more frequently making polite conversation... and great, fantasically great when theres a petrol strike....

Reality figures dont really add up... (and now Vauxhall dont do them anymore, gather Citroen do... bet thats fun.... :D)

Good morning All.

I have a 2.8 auto (2003) which I had converted just about a year ago. Bought it low mileage and in very good cond. I pay 48.8ppl inc vat and get around 260miles per 59litres. Very pleased with it. Not able to tell any difference in performance - its set up with the cars parameters so it does not know any change!!!!! No trouble apart from slight water leak where its system is heated, but now cured. Clip needed tightening. Tank in spare wheel well, space saver now in boot. Its easier to take the spare wheel out than a tank!!!

So there we are - lovely smooth engine and reasonable economy. Lots of places to re gas, the company I have an account with supplies a book with all their locations. Brill. The only slight downside is the injector noise from outside. Gives the impression the tappets need adjusting. lol. Want to change front pads - how do I do that please?

Want to change front pads - how do I do that please?

Take off the wheel, pull the spring off the caliper, push the old pads back, undo the two 8mm allen key bolts, disconnect the sensor, pull out the pads and work back to refit, rears need a winder tool.

If you could post the average speed as well it will help, right now you are running at 20mpg on gas, but the speed figure gives a real account, working on what I know I suspect this is mainly dual carraigeway and motorway, as a 2.8 would struggle to return 16mpg urban on petrol and theres a 2-3mpg penalty for gas.

many thanks for the pad changing help - I did not realise you had to undo the allen bolts!!!:o:O Have recorded all gas etc since conversion and am getting between 16 and 21.7 mpg on gas. Also over the last 9 months have put in just £60 of petrol. (9763 miles). I use the performance but not a hard driver!! unlike my son who thinks the right pedal is a switch, on or off!! We are also genarally 4 or 5 up too. Keep up 60ish on nrmal roads, the limit on motorways (cough cough) Actually prob. more like 80. I dont hang about - always in a rush. One thing that has just cropped up is that if it is a very hot day it changes over to lpg in about 5 secs when starting from cold (normally about 45secs) This needs adjusting as it runs unevenly. I switch gas off for 60secs or so. Dont use the car for many short runs tho, this helps the mpg. Anyone is welcome to see the installation etc. I am in Chippenham.

Be good!

JJ

The hex key you need to unscrew the slider pins in Teves calipers is 7 mm AF.

rotodiesel.

Excuse me for being pedantic, but how can it be 7mm AF? It's either 7mm or it's x AF?

"AF" is the abbreviation for "across the flats". Dimensions can be in mm or inches. It has nothing to do with the American fine thread system which is ANF - American National Fine.

rotodiesel.

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