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do it fella! i thought my car was ****ed but it was just the spindle in the tubby had snapped! took the glowplugs out and cranked it over to get the **** out and clean your intercooler and piping out too then whack it on and should be ok! unless the old turbo sent mass ammounts of shards into the engine!

Hopefully the engine should be ok, it any bits of the turbo got away, they will be in the intercooler

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i`d go for it, worse your gonna loose is a couple hours labour, the turbo can always be resold if need be.

matt

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you say it will only take a couple of hours, is there an easier way to access the turbo, The lads I know say its probably an all day job just to swap the bine as its in a difficult position, are they missing somthing?

I too am no good with spanners, so can only go on what i`v seen/been told. However, my lads said the turbo is in a easy position, was done in my yard with one trolley jack and axel stand, was off in 1.5 hours, and new one back on in another hour. However, it did help that they were both handy on vag cars.

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just another quick questiong, if i get this pd150 turbo, ill probably be looking to get it reconditioned and maybe even hybridded, whats the costs involved on having that done?

cheers.

just another quick questiong, if i get this pd150 turbo, ill probably be looking to get it reconditioned and maybe even hybridded, whats the costs involved on having that done?

cheers.

no point in doing anything with the turbo till you know the engine is ok

how much oil is left in the engine ?

oh , iirc the PD150 turbo has to have the housing repositioned to fit on the Fabia engine

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argh........more fun..........is there nothing i can take from a PD150 engine that would enable me to fit it to my engine?

cheers.

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just checked this btw, apparently all i have to do is turn the housing around?

I shall be picking it up tomorrow, some fingers crossed I shall be back on the road by the end of the week....I hope I have some luck, be sods law rings will have gone and compression be to pot, or worse a siezed block - struggling to think positive, my little furby is on A&E in critical condition at minute....could go either way :(

yeah im not 100% sure what it involves, but thats what they need to fit. Good luck, i`ll keep me finger crossed for u!

but surely there would be a load of black smoke? and that wouldnt have killed the engine instantly would it?

When my turbo let go there was a lil puff of smoke, but non what so ever while limping about.

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When my turbo let go there was a lil puff of smoke, but non what so ever while limping about.

Good news so far guys, I picked up my Garret GT17 (PD150) Turbo on Wednesday evening from a friends in Chesterfield, Cost me £250.

I took some photos, but there poor lighting :( I shall attach anyway haha.

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It was fitted yesterday and good news is the engine started and ticked over fine, there just doing a few more checks for me today then I'm picking it up. So I am rather happy, just gonna take it steady for a couple of weeks.:D:thumbup:

lucky then, i hope the intercooler and pipework has been checked and cleaned

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it has :D

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OK guys, more problems, got the new turbo fitted, was blowing from manifold, had manifold machined, refitted, and took the car for a test drive today felt really slow and smokey, like a boost pipe was off but worse, took it straight back and the intercooler was half filled with oil again.

Any ideas?

Only two ways for oil to get into the inter-cooler. Turbo seals shot, or loads of blow by oil from the PCV system getting into intake manifold. So either replacement turbo is goosed, or there is more engine damage somewhere.

Clean inter-cooler again, disconnect PCV hose and vent to a can to see how much oil it is putting out, blank off the PCV inlet on the inlet manifold. If you still get a problem, new turbo is shot.

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PCV hose - is that the breather on the rocker cover?

PCV hose - is that the breather on the rocker cover?

Sure is mate.

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I suspected either that or turbo seals...but really shouldnt be turbo seals, but could the breather kill the performance too?

I suspected either that or turbo seals...but really shouldnt be turbo seals, but could the breather kill the performance too?

My worry would be that, if the inter-cooler is half full of oil, it is likely that a lot of oil will be getting into the cylinders. This could either cause runaway as the oil is burnt, or if bad enough hydraulic lock if the oil fails to burn. You cannot compress a liquid, so the con rods bend.

To get the quantity of oil you are talking about into the inter cooler in a relatively short period of time, something very wrong has to be going on, in either the turbo, or masses of oil getting blown out of the PCV breather hose, into the inlet manifold.

Car really needs a full test sequence. Fault code scan, PCV blow by gas pressure test, engine compression test, and compression leak down test.

The rocker cover does have a pressure limiter valve to control PCV gas/oil into the manifold.

It's a strange fault to say the least.

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trust me to find it, cheers anyway mate.

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o dear, more bad news, turns out the not so new turbo I bought has siezed as its been sat around too long.....sending it off to turbo dynamics for a recon.....considering a hybrid, but really does depends how much extra that would be.....will call them when they've had chance to diagnose it.

Feel for ya bud.. nothing worse than a fault that just keeps going on and on and on....

Any chance of getting some doh back of ya mate?

and on a slight side line... How's Rotheram taking the Chorus lay offs? My mate did a year in industry there.. was a massive plant!

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lol, wouldn't know fortunately, not my trade.....but keep hearin about it in the news - :( bad times.

And when TD have properly diagnosed there is a fault with the turbo, I shall see about some coin back.....

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ok, turbo isnt even good enough for a recon, has a big crack which is apparently whats caused it to sieze, bearing wearing unevenly, meaning had contaminated oil, discolours somthing-or-other meaning its been ragged and not cooled properly, etc etc......basically, nailed.

Gonna buy a new one off TD methinks, just gonna av to try n get money back off my mate, should be fun *sighs* :(

Really feeling for you now mate. Keep updating us as you go along. Your mate should be nice enough to give you the money back.

Good luck.

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