Hi, call me mad but I will do it!! I have a lovely Felicia 1.3mpi. I have just bouugh a salvage 40,000 mile Felicia 1.6mpi. I am putting this lump into my 1.3. I am gonna intergrate a turbo onto manifold but dont know what turbo to use either hi boost or low say for diesel. Does anyone know if any VW turbos are available? I will have to do a bit of fabrication for sure but i just need a little advice on what turbo to aim for. Once done I will post some pix,wanna get done before winter.Engine goin in next week.Everyone i speak to says why bother its a crappy skoda, this makes me more determined to show the chaves in their Saxo,s n Corsas what humiliation feels like.Doing this will raise the profile of this so far laughable local car which I love.:D:D

It has been done before to the 1.6 so there must be something available.

Also don't overlook the extra fueling required for running a turbo as the air will be entering the engine must faster and yet the fueling is still set for the normal amount of air into the engine.

You might also want to look into strengthening or upgrading the engine and gearbox mounts as theses will be stressed further and thay are pretty poor to start off with.

Other things are the clutch and gearbox. The gearbox should be fine up to about 120bhp as this box has held with 110bhp and up engines just fine. The clutch, however, may require an upgrade to something a bit stronger to stop it from slipping.

I would recommend going small for the turbo though as it isn't the strongest engine in the world but that will still see decent gains.

Oh one more thing is make sure your brakes are up to it... they are borderline for all engines as standard when driven fast so with more power comes a bigger need to stop quicker!

Hope that helps.

Phil

Thanks Phil, at last someone that can answer me without falling on the floor holding their sides,good advice,a lower end turbo it will be

Further on fuelling etc; there are formulae for sizing injectors based on intended power output.

There are turbos (Daihatsu Charade? GTti springs to mind) available for engines as small as 1.0l, with intended power in the 100..120bhp range.

Have you considered what you're doing about ignition and fuel control? I doubt there will be an off-the-shelf map for a Megasquirt or an Emerald ECU, but the guys at Emerald would happily give you a "get it running" base map if they had something to work from.

And of course we take you seriously. We have done, or know people who have, anything from a stock 1.3 carb (yes carb) Fellie up to a Fellie with a Vw VR6 2.8l transaxle in it.

+1 here on the small turbo. Anything large and yourll just have mega turbo lag and possibly just snap a rod or something.

Have you done anything like this before?

Small T2 turbo off an early derver (Pug 306 1.9xud for example) would be ideal - don't use a variable turbo off a modern derver, it won't last, will break up & go through the engine! As for fuelling, cheapest option is a lambda controlled 5th injector - piece of cake to install and totally stand alone! Good luck.

I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere that it's not a good idea to use a turbocharger designed for a diesel engine on a petrol engine. Diesel turbos are designed to typically spin at about half the RPM of a petrol turbo, and are designed for exhaust gases that are quite a bit cooler than petrol engine exhaust gas. I can't find the article in question at the moment, but it suggested that using a diesel turbo on a petrol engine was likely to lead to some of its parts melting....

James

^^ +1 dont worry yourselve too much about the turbo, that's a simple case of grafting/bodging it on. it's the fueling that will give you the biggest headache

I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere that it's not a good idea to use a turbocharger designed for a diesel engine on a petrol engine. Diesel turbos are designed to typically spin at about half the RPM of a petrol turbo, and are designed for exhaust gases that are quite a bit cooler than petrol engine exhaust gas. I can't find the article in question at the moment, but it suggested that using a diesel turbo on a petrol engine was likely to lead to some of its parts melting....

James

Yep, agreed, hence the reason I said as an example, a T2 off an early OLD Pug 306 XUD turbo not a 306HDI which has the variable vanes & not a wastegate - its this part that can't cope with the heat of a petrol - revs aren't so much of a problem as they are designed to spin fast.... A Garret T2 is the same on my petrol Nissan Cherry Turbo as a Pug 306 (1.9XUD) td, Renault 19/21 td plus others.... The reason I suggested a Pug XUD td turbo is because they are plentiful so therefore much cheaper and are usually in better nick than those off a petrol for the reasons as said above. Imagine trying to find a Daihatsu GTTi turbo??? Hens teeth!

As for the fuelling, Innovate do some good gear for mixture readings, wide band lambda, etc - 5th injector & away to go, piece of pi$$!!!

Edited 16 August, 200916 yr by cherry evo

easier to put a 1.8t unit in 150bhp standard

easier to put a 1.8t unit in 150bhp standard

lol you think thats easyer??????????

easier to put a 1.8t unit in 150bhp standard

Erm.... not really! Ideally you'd need the wiring harness, all the sensors/modules/ecu's, fabricate engine mountings, possible gear linkage & drive shaft issues, etc, etc. Headwork, even down to simple things like the chipped immobiliser ignition key... Absolutely not impossible at all, but deffo not the easier option!

Slam a turbo on the standard motor, innovate 5th injector set up, job done!

+1 here on the small turbo. Anything large and yourll just have mega turbo lag and possibly just snap a rod or something.

Have you done anything like this before?

Nope not turbo instalation. have asked my mate who works for VAG if he reconises the 1.6mpi from any other VW out there to see if any manifolds will fit the block and house a turbo without fabrication.no joy yet but its all part of the fun.

I wanna thank all for all the advice on this project,once done all round its going in MAX POWER mag with the focus on the help form this site. a T2 turbo is the next purchase on e.bay!!

as far as i know there's no oe manifolds for the 011 series engines that allow you to fit a turbo on an 8v unit, there is for the 16v one though but they are not available in the uk (mexico only).. it may be possible however to build an adaptor to bolt on the end of the manifold to make a turbo fit so long as the turbo sits up the right way and is higher than the sump