Gotta change front and rear pads. Thinking Greenstuff front and ATE rear.

Any opinions or experience welcome.

Jonathan

Avoid the greenstuff.

I've heard nothing but bad about them.

Cardiff eh .........I know it well;)

I used Red Stuff on my car and they were shy't. And as Red's are supposedly a higher performing pad than Greens, I wouldn't recommend EBC at all, especially on heavy car such as a Superb.

Lance

GSF own brand stops mine ok, less than £20 for the front ones.

Original ATE on my Mk2 Octy, and they can pull you up rather well from some high speeds! Even on 256mm discs.

Are ATE a decent brand for OEM-spec replacements in most applications?

I would say so, i've got Original ATE discs and pads up front.

They can take some stick from spirited driving, but i wouldn't want to push my setup on the track.

Euro Car Parts are offering ATE and Eicher/Pagid as a lower cost option. The difference is £12 so I've decided to go for ATE all round. Appreciate the feeedback very much.

Surprised at the response to EBC. I'd always thought that they were the business. At around £73 for the fronts they're roughly twice the price of ATE. You'd think for that much more they would have rave reviews.

Thanks again to all that input.

Jonathan

I've always rated EBC, in fact I'd not run anything other than EBC sintered pads on a bike - they make that lovely crackling bacon noise against the drilled discs when up to temperature:D

Be keen to know your thoughts on the ATEs once they're worn in

Avoid EBC friction materials like the plague. Their discs are good, but avoid the pads.

EBC Yellows are very good. It's the Greens that used to be good but got worse ~2-3 years ago? That's when I bought last set for the Superb. I would not use current Greens.

Now I have EBC Yellows on Superb and they are very good. Try stopping 140mph - 60mph repeatedly on stock or pattern pads and with factory brakes - I think you'll find that you need either ceramic or kevlar pads to avoid fadeout. With Yellows no problems so far after 20k miles.

EBC Yellows are very good. It's the Greens that used to be good but got worse ~2-3 years ago? That's when I bought last set for the Superb. I would not use current Greens.

Now I have EBC Yellows on Superb and they are very good. Try stopping 140mph - 60mph repeatedly on stock or pattern pads and with factory brakes - I think you'll find that you need either ceramic or kevlar pads to avoid fadeout. With Yellows no problems so far after 20k miles.

Yes, and if I fit ceramic rotors I'll still can out-brake you. Most people don't do repeated stops from flat-out like you describe, and there are other makes of performance friction materials than EBC.

I've heard rave reports on Ferodo DS5200's but a price to reflect!

Are ATE a decent brand for OEM-spec replacements in most applications?

Euro Car Parts are offering ATE and Eicher/Pagid as a lower cost option.

As far as OEM pad manufacturers goes you have a choice of ATE, Jurid, Textar, Pagid and TRW.

With Pagid they used to run two lines for some pads an OE spec and a cheaper aftermarket one, but was pretty simple to see what you are getting on the box... as if the number ends 'ECO' it means 'Economy' so for example if you are offered a choice of say a T5075 or a T5075ECO you will now know what the difference is!

I've always rated EBC, in fact I'd not run anything other than EBC sintered pads on a bike - they make that lovely crackling bacon noise against the drilled discs when up to temperature:D

On a bike, yes EBC are ok and I've used them for many years on numerous bikes, including the current one.

On a car though......not for me. At the Ring, with mild provocation....fade fade fade.

Yes, and if I fit ceramic rotors I'll still can out-brake you. Most people don't do repeated stops from flat-out like you describe, and there are other makes of performance friction materials than EBC.

I was replying to original question whether the Greens are any good. They aren't anymore, if you want EBC get Yellows. If you want something else, get something else.

Most people do not do 140 to 60 unless driving across Germany (which is where I test the brakes every few months), but many people do drive down dual carriageway with multiple roundabouts and repeated 70mph - 0mph stops (e.g. A505, or A414). Stock pads and brakes are insufficient even for this scenario.

Main difference on VWs and Audis of similar chassis are bigger brakes...(and newer engines but that's another story).

Avoid EBC friction materials like the plague. Their discs are good, but avoid the pads.

This and the hostility of your previous reply to my post sounds like a non-EBC pad dealer Just making a point on netiquette...

This and the hostility of your previous reply to my post sounds like a non-EBC pad dealer Just making a point on netiquette...

I don't work in the motor trade. I do know several people who do, and a lot of enthusiastic drivers (not all on Briskoda) though. Most of them don't like EBC pads.

As to your point about braking loads, do the maths; one stop from 140 to 60 puts more heat through the brakes than 3 from 70 to rest do (presumes stop in neutral to allow neglect of engine braking effects).