Just caught up on this, interesting news! Considering they demo'd this on the gadget show a while back with sky, i recall then the presenter saying sky are testing the technology and will be for a long while and have no plans to release it any time soon.

Wonder if it will catch on, cant really see the draw tbh, am i just being a fuddy duddy?

Just caught up on this, interesting news! Considering they demo'd this on the gadget show a while back with sky, i recall then the presenter saying sky are testing the technology and will be for a long while and have no plans to release it any time soon.

Wonder if it will catch on, cant really see the draw tbh, am i just being a fuddy duddy?

They are planning to release it this year if they can and certainly would like to before the end of the 2010-2011 footie season. And the testing is at the full blown Outside broadcast stage, except they run in tandem with one of their traditional OBs and only show the HD version (they do record the 3D version however.)

Looks like it'll be in America next year.

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2010/01/06/sony_confirms_3d_channel/

Looks like it'll be in America next year.

http://www.reghardwa...rms_3d_channel/

The same article says SKY will launch this year!

I've lost the link, but at CES, theres a company doing some really nice glasses for 3D. Much better than the cheapie ones you get from the cinema.

They also suggested they are working with some perscription glasses companies, to make 3D glasses for speccy eye'd geeks

I have a horrible feeling that we are going to get a into a VHS vs Betamax scenario again. A lot of the TV manufactures are getting together with companies like ESPN and producing Active Shutter style glasses. I can see the advantage of these being you could have a conventional telly for normal SD and HD stuff, whereas the polarised system requires a special telly. But of course the glasses are far cheaper if they are just the circular polariser type. Perhaps we will se one system in pubs and the other in the home. Oh bugger!

I can see the shutter type glasses having a noticable affect on image quality (just like the coloured glasses) that isn't a problem with polarised screens , though the public are far more likely to upgrade if they can keep their existing telly and spend fifty quid on glasses rather than spend thousands on a new screen.

On CRT sets they could use each half of an interlaced frame and keep the same refresh rate (albeit at half effective resolution) , but on flat panels they'd have to alternate frames between eyes and that could give quite bad visible flicker.

I can see it might also be messed up by screens that run at 100 or 200hz and interpolate extra frames too.

I have a horrible feeling that we are going to get a into a VHS vs Betamax scenario again. A lot of the TV manufactures are getting together with companies like ESPN and producing Active Shutter style glasses. I can see the advantage of these being you could have a conventional telly for normal SD and HD stuff, whereas the polarised system requires a special telly. But of course the glasses are far cheaper if they are just the circular polariser type. Perhaps we will se one system in pubs and the other in the home. Oh bugger!

Well.. which one is porn going to use?

I can see the shutter type glasses having a noticable affect on image quality (just like the coloured glasses) that isn't a problem with polarised screens , though the public are far more likely to upgrade if they can keep their existing telly and spend fifty quid on glasses rather than spend thousands on a new screen.

On CRT sets they could use each half of an interlaced frame and keep the same refresh rate (albeit at half effective resolution) , but on flat panels they'd have to alternate frames between eyes and that could give quite bad visible flicker.

I can see it might also be messed up by screens that run at 100 or 200hz and interpolate extra frames too.

Many people are saying the shutter glasses are superior to the polarised ones! You just need to double the field/frame rate and you should get more or less zero flicker as the eye and the brain are clever things.

The Yanks always whinge they can see flicker in our monitors as they are used to a slightly higher frame rate and are not used to our 25/50 rate. But you can see the flicker on traditional monitors if you look at them out of the comer of your eye as it isn’t so desensitised.

I like the look of the polarisers that I have seen though

Well.. which one is porn going to use?

As you might have imagined many of my colleagues have discussed this at length and figure that a particular shot that you often see at the climax of a porn shoot, will have you ducking for cover!

3D TV wont work for me anyway, so I am not to bothered about it. Only having partial sight in one eye, means any form of glasses will not work for me at all.

As you might have imagined many of my colleagues have discussed this at length and figure that a particular shot that you often see at the climax of a porn shoot, will have you ducking for cover!

Lol - would be strange to watch

have heard it said that porn settled the HD/Blu-ray argument so maybe it will be down to them as to whether 3D succeeds

Mark

we are shooting 3d for the official olympic film here in Vancouver at the moment.

we are shooting 3d for the official olympic film here in Vancouver at the moment.

Sounds a lot more glamour than some of the premier footie’s that we have been shooting back here in the gloomy, cold UK

I like the idea of 3D TV, the need to wear glasses.........really puts me off.

From a visual processing perspective, we're pretty simple and can easily be fooled into 'seeing' 3D from a 2D image, as demonstrated with these two eye-popping displays.

NuFormer

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I like the idea of 3D TV, the need to wear glasses.........really puts me off.

From a visual processing perspective, we're pretty simple and can easily be fooled into 'seeing' 3D from a 2D image, as demonstrated with these two eye-popping displays.

NuFormer

Sadly you can’t get a feel for the 3D with a pooter screen, but I bet they looked tremendous in real life.

The NuFormer one was a bit odd though. Only 2 people who looked like they were sight seeing, seemed to be looking at the large gothic building and everyone else was just walking past. I wondered if they had done the whole thing in post-prod and cheated, unlike the Gorey Castle demo (which looked amazing ).

The 3D in the home (via Sky or Blu-Ray) will be via shutter glasses, not polarised light - it's a far cheaper and easier technology to develop for home viewing and has the benefit that it's just a frame rate thing and not a display thing meaning it will work for both LCD / Plasma screens and projected images

At work, we're building the world's first dedicated 3D outside broadcast vehicle. The production workflow is quite complex so doing the production "live" in 3D poses different challenges to post production like films where you can endlessly tweak the effect. The rigs for shooting the content are quite involved too - using a pair of cameras to record the stereoscopic vision, so you've got twice the bandwidth requirement!

I've even looked at producing some stop-frame filming in 3d too, all good fun

3D is here to conquer the world though - whether you like it or not. It IS the next big thing.

At work, we're building the world's first dedicated 3D outside broadcast vehicle.

Are you working on one of the Telegenics or Visions scanners?

I’ve done a few 3D OBs for SKY and think once the convergence operators sort out what is going on it will work fine imho. Don’t like the noise caused by the small iris/amplification that ws used for the larger depth of image though. 2D noise sits in front of the 3D image like a fine curtain. Boxing looks great though

The TG one.

Took photos of it the other day - but they're only in 2D :p

The TG one.

Took photos of it the other day - but they're only in 2D

I have been on the one they are using for the trials. Is this new one a triple expander or something similar? Don’t suppose you know if it has Telex or Reidel in the sound end?

I have been on the one they are using for the trials. Is this new one a triple expander or something similar? Don’t suppose you know if it has Telex or Reidel in the sound end?

It's a triple expander. Looks incredible spacious inside and of course, there's a dedicated 3D row of desks which have been added.

Can't say much about the sound end I'm afraid

It's a triple expander. Looks incredible spacious inside and of course, there's a dedicated 3D row of desks which have been added.

Can't say much about the sound end I'm afraid

All the major TV companies now seem to be doing triple expanders!!! Where the heck are they going to park all these trucks when they are not doing big OBs?

Did a job with a nameless TV company that couldn’t expand their triple, but said not to worry as they could run it as a double. Well sort of……………………. Nobody had checked if they would need extra little blanking plates for the floor in the compromised squashed configuration you could almost climb through the holes in the floor

True, it does get rather wide! I haven't grabbed a tape measure or looked at the trailer schematics, but it does take up space. The truck might be able to run in just double expanded config, leaving out the third which is where the 3D gear is used so possibly ok when not shooting in 3D. But then they'd probably use another truck for the event

True, it does get rather wide! I haven't grabbed a tape measure or looked at the trailer schematics, but it does take up space. The truck might be able to run in just double expanded config, leaving out the third which is where the 3D gear is used so possibly ok when not shooting in 3D. But then they'd probably use another truck for the event

I think SiS are bringing their Double-double on line soon!