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Has anybody fitted a K & N 69 Series Typhoon to their Diesel Octy ?? There is a fair price difference between it and a K & N panel filter ( which I have ) and I was just wondering could it justify the extra outlay. anybody ?

there would be no power gain from these kits the best power gain is had from a performance pannel filter in standard oem box :thumbup:

save your money

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Cheers Westallc, I was looking for an honest answer because they work out at about 300euros, I might put the money towards some new wheels give my tired old Eibachs a holiday and fit new ones.

there would be no power gain from these kits the best power gain is had from a performance pannel filter in standard oem box :thumbup:

save your money

I beg to differ. a K&N panel filter in OE airbox will give you a nominal power increase (and that is debatable too) whereas a Typhoon or 57i kit should give you a solid 8 - 12 bhp extra; I know as I have a 57i with rolling road graphs to prove it.

IMHO the Typhoon does look good and appears to be a 'proper job' (with the shrouding etc.) but it is, as has been said, expensive. The K&N 57i is less than half the price and a bit of DIY will sort out the shielding as shown here;-

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Do I see an aluminium food tray taped somewhere in there ????

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So are you fairly sure that I will feel an increase over my panel filter ??

Blimey that looks like a blue peter effort in stick back plastic, does it not come with the proper brackets to hold it??

I can't speak about a diesel but I would pressume its the same principle, more air to the turbo = more power. So on that assumption I would imagine the unrestricted typhoon kit will have a marked difference, I recently changed from a piper cross panel filter to an Evoms on my tfsi. Its not been dyno-ed yet, but my god the difference is incredible!

OctaviavRS040.jpg

what the hell is that, jesus wept.

I'd be embarrassed to open my bonnet with that mess under it.

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Lads be nice..............Bahnstormers handy work saved him about 150 quid. I would just like to be assured that I will feel a gain if I go to the trouble and expense. I'm just worried that the air being taken in, is warm engine bay air.

trust me there is more performance from a performance pannnel filter in oem box than a cai system and that diy look terrible by the way......

it has been proven so many times now that the oem box de finned with performance filter is better than the cai

i personally prefer the cai as it give a better turbo noise..

8 -12 bhp want to have a go on your dyno lol wont happen a standard air box with flow just as much usable air as the cai

if you see a difference thats noticable i will eat my hat lol

p.s why have a free flow filter and then keep the very restrictive tip pipe that makes sense NOT

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I beg to differ. a K&N panel filter in OE airbox will give you a nominal power increase (and that is debatable too) whereas a Typhoon or 57i kit should give you a solid 8 - 12 bhp extra; I know as I have a 57i with rolling road graphs to prove it.

IMHO the Typhoon does look good and appears to be a 'proper job' (with the shrouding etc.) but it is, as has been said, expensive. The K&N 57i is less than half the price and a bit of DIY will sort out the shielding as shown here;-

OctaviavRS040.jpg-

i hope this was for a template as that is truly shocking no matter how much it saved you lol

I can't speak about a diesel but I would pressume its the same principle, more air to the turbo = more power. So on that assumption I would imagine the unrestricted typhoon kit will have a marked difference, I recently changed from a piper cross panel filter to an Evoms on my tfsi. Its not been dyno-ed yet, but my god the difference is incredible!

Thanks for your support on this subject.

As previously mentioned I have had mine on a rolling road (JKM - Feb 2008) where it produced 189bhp vs 173bhp from an OE spec vRS TDI on the same day; the only other aid to my improved output was good fuel plus additive. There was a corresponding increase in torque from 2,250rpm upward ( although none below this).

Do I see an aluminium food tray taped somewhere in there ????

Yes; there is a 1" diameter coolant pipe from the radiator sitting just in front of it. I reckoned the foil tray would help provide heat insulation and help get the best supply of cold air to the filter.

So are you fairly sure that I will feel an increase over my panel filter ??

Yes; I'm positive (as stated in the post above).

Blimey that looks like a blue peter effort in stick back plastic, does it not come with the proper brackets to hold it??

The kit comes with all proper brackets etc. and excellent fitting instructions (can be found on K&N's website). The corex plastic Heath Robinson job (I never did get a Blue Peter badge) is simply to provide a modicum of heat shealding to improve the cold air flow to the filter and minimise the risk of water(spray) getting at the filter. Seems to work as it has now been fitted for nearly two years without a problem.

....Bahnstormers handy work saved him about 150 quid. I would just like to be assured that I will feel a gain if I go to the trouble and expense. I'm just worried that the air being taken in, is warm engine bay air.

It wasn't so much a case of saving £150 as the Typhoon kit which came out last year was not available when I bought my 57i.

As to cold air vs warm engine bay air; not a problem. If you look carefully you may be able to see that I have kept the OE U-shaped intake ducting and have blanked off the 'bleed' area at the top of the OE intake, this is to get a full ram air effect of cold air from the radiator grille with the exit being bottom left of the filter area; this IMHO maximises cold air to the filter whilst minimising the risk of water ingress. This is more easily seen here;-

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Thanks Bahnstormer, very helpful and informative as usual...............cheers.

Thanks for your support on this subject.

As previously mentioned I have had mine on a rolling road (JKM - Feb 2008) where it produced 189bhp vs 173bhp from an OE spec vRS TDI on the same day; the only other aid to my improved output was good fuel plus additive. There was a corresponding increase in torque from 2,250rpm upward ( although none below this).

No worries buddy, to be fair the heat shielding does look a 'bit' bad, but I'm sure it could be improved.

At the end of the day, who's going to see it, as long as your happy and it gives the performance! :)

No worries buddy, to be fair the heat shielding does look a 'bit' bad, but I'm sure it could be improved.

At the end of the day, who's going to see it, as long as your happy and it gives the performance! :)

Quite!

The only people to see it are me when I check the oil etc. and my local dealer when they work on the car! I missed a trick though in that I ought to have got a patent on it or at least have sold the design to K&N!

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