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I am having problems with the driver's window. The second position of the switch does not operate to close the window automatically but if I hold it to close the window it immediately reopens to the half way position. Most odd.

I thought that I may have set something on the Maxidot so I went through the Set Up but found nothing that, I thought, would affect the windows. I did a factory reset. This did nothing for the window BUT it bought up a new heading "Autohold". Autohold can be either On or Off. The question is what does it do? I thought it might be to do with the Up-Hill Start function. (which has always worked perfectly) but my dealer does not think so.

Any Ideas on Autohold?

Only place I've seen Auto Hold is on the DSG Passats - it stops the "creep" so when you stop it stays where you stop.

I am having problems with the driver's window. The second position of the switch does not operate to close the window automatically but if I hold it to close the window it immediately reopens to the half way position. Most odd.

I thought that I may have set something on the Maxidot so I went through the Set Up but found nothing that, I thought, would affect the windows. I did a factory reset. This did nothing for the window BUT it bought up a new heading "Autohold". Autohold can be either On or Off. The question is what does it do? I thought it might be to do with the Up-Hill Start function. (which has always worked perfectly) but my dealer does not think so.

Any Ideas on Autohold?

I don't know if this puts anylight on it! :wonder:

Edited by Ray_Green

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Only place I've seen Auto Hold is on the DSG Passats - it stops the "creep" so when you stop it stays where you stop.

On the Yeti this is referred to as the Up-Hill Start. I did have the impression that Autohold might be something different - but you may be right.

On the Tiguan there is a Auto Hold button behind the electronic handbrake leaver. selecting this gives you an advanced 'hill hold'; every time you stop the brakes are automatically applied until you move off again.

Anyway interesting; might give the factory reset a shot myself and see what happens, knowing my luck she do something daft though :wonder:

Regards,

TP

On the Yeti this is referred to as the Up-Hill Start. I did have the impression that Autohold might be something different - but you may be right.

Isn't that to stop you rolling backwards, whereas the auto hold on the Passat is to stop you creeping forward (as normal autos do)?

Well decided to give the factory reset a go and got the same thing. So I have selected it on and will give her a run later to see what happens.

By the way Terfyn have you got both the off-road button and hill hold options or just the former?

Regards,

TP

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Well decided to give the factory reset a go and got the same thing. So I have selected it on and will give her a run later to see what happens.

By the way Terfyn have you got both the off-road button and hill hold options or just the former?

Regards,

TP

I have both options. Seemed more use around here than a sunroof! (The sun shon today for the first time in a while)

Very relieved that I am not the only one to find this Autohold. One thing I did not check was whether the Factory Reset set the Service Interval to zero.

Edited by Terfyn

I have both options. Seemed more use around here than a sunroof! (The sun shon today for the first time in a while)

Very relieved that I am not the only one to find this Autohold. One thing I did not check was whether the Factory Reset set the Service Interval to zero.

Thought about the service interval myself after the re-set. Appears to be where I would expect for her current youth and mileage covered so far. :) ignoring it anyway as I am intending on having her serviced every 10,000 miles.

Regards,

TP

Is this only on 4WD models? I have an SE 2WD.

tom

Edit: Just found it in the brochure as Factory Fitted Optional Equipment available option on the SE.

ESP incl ABS+ etc. £380.00

then

Hill hold control with ESP incl ABS etc. (4x4 models only) £80.00

We are back to the badly worded brochure. The Hill hold control entry could be read as saying that you get it and the ESP incl. ABS etc. £300 cheaper !!!

tom

Edited by Sanqhar

Well went back out to give her a run round the village and found the Autohold option had disappeared from the Maxidot.

Recycled the factory reset and it came back, so selected on and off we went. Did not detect any changes and the hill hold worked as advertised i.e. it released after 2 or 3 seconds.

After turning the ignition off this option again disappeared from the Maxidot. So I can only assume it's a 'Ghost' from a disabled feature. One odd thing I did get though and it could be purely coincidental was a 'banging' valve? just after shutting down :wonder:

Regards,

TP

Well went back out to give her a run round the village and found the Autohold option had disappeared from the Maxidot.

Recycled the factory reset and it came back, so selected on and off we went. Did not detect any changes and the hill hold worked as advertised i.e. it released after 2 or 3 seconds.

After turning the ignition off this option again disappeared from the Maxidot. So I can only assume it's a 'Ghost' from a disabled feature. One odd thing I did get though and it could be purely coincidental was a 'banging' valve? just after shutting down :wonder:

Regards,

TP

TP

Do I gather from this you didn't buy the Hill hold as an option on your Yeti?

tom

TP

Do I gather from this you didn't buy the Hill hold as an option on your Yeti?

tom

Hi Tom,

yes I have the 'hill hold' option. This function holds the brakes on for 2-3 seconds after taking your foot of the foot brake while on a slope, therefore giving you time to move your foot back to the accelerator and balance the clutch. Will release if your quick enough to get to pulling away in those 2-3 seconds.

This is a separate function to the off-road button's uphill start assist.

With my mini test I was trying to see if this Auto Hold kept the brakes on until you moved away as with the Tiguan. As my Monster did not keep the brakes on after normal 2-3 seconds, I deduced that this was more than likely a ghost in the software, particularly as it disappeared after shutting down.

Regards,

TP

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I am having problems with the driver's window. The second position of the switch does not operate to close the window automatically but if I hold it to close the window it immediately reopens to the half way position. Most odd.

Went to the dealers today. The window problem is a "known" fault. The cure is to open the window fully then close and hold the toggle up until you hear a click. This resets the mechanism.

My window now works OK.

Is this only on 4WD models? I have an SE 2WD.

tom

Edit: Just found it in the brochure as Factory Fitted Optional Equipment available option on the SE.

ESP incl ABS+ etc. £380.00

then

Hill hold control with ESP incl ABS etc. (4x4 models only) £80.00

We are back to the badly worded brochure. The Hill hold control entry could be read as saying that you get it and the ESP incl. ABS etc. £300 cheaper !!!

tom

ESP is standard on all 4wd models (and DSG equipped ones). So for the £80 you woul donly be getting the Hill Hold extra.

Unlike the Park assist which is a bargain as it gets you Park Assist, Front sensors and ESP for £460 whereas Front Sensors are £270 and ESP is £390 so it woul dcost £660 to add those seperately without Park Assist.

  • 1 year later...

Hi Tom,

yes I have the 'hill hold' option. This function holds the brakes on for 2-3 seconds after taking your foot of the foot brake while on a slope, therefore giving you time to move your foot back to the accelerator and balance the clutch. Will release if your quick enough to get to pulling away in those 2-3 seconds.

This is a separate function to the off-road button's uphill start assist.

With my mini test I was trying to see if this Auto Hold kept the brakes on until you moved away as with the Tiguan. As my Monster did not keep the brakes on after normal 2-3 seconds, I deduced that this was more than likely a ghost in the software, particularly as it disappeared after shutting down.

Regards,

TP

I hate this "uphill start assist" confusion. The brochure says that the car will hold itself on a slope within the paragraph about the offroad button, so why should I have to spec the Hill Hold option as well. So annoyed I've ended up with a car that doesn't do that now.

Norstar,

why do you need to post the same basic comment on at least 3 different threads?

Hill Hold Control is only available with the Off Road Button, end off!!

That is what it says in the brochure. If you couldn't understand that, then I'm very sorry but it really is quite simple.

If you think that SUK have misrepresented something then go to Consumer Advice and see what they say.

Norstar,

why do you need to post the same basic comment on at least 3 different threads?

Hill Hold Control is only available with the Off Road Button, end off!!

That is what it says in the brochure. If you couldn't understand that, then I'm very sorry but it really is quite simple.

If you think that SUK have misrepresented something then go to Consumer Advice and see what they say.

Simply, three different threads because three different people are asking a question for comments and debate. If the threads were merged I'd post it once.

You're also wrong in what you say. Skoda's chief engineer has confirmed to me that Hill Hold Control is a separate function and option to the Off Road button. The "uphill start assist" referred to in the offroad button is actually where the revs are limited to 2500 on pull away.

Thanks also for patronising me about understanding the brochure, but if you read it, the para describing the Offroad button says:

(page 6). "It will...hold the car on a hill start and help prevent the wheels from spinning on loose surfaces...".

So by ordering the offroad button, am I not entitled to expect it to hold the car on an incline? But it doesn't, because Skoda have told me that actually you need the Hill Hold Control option to do that.

For your information, I did take it up with SUK customer services who basically told me it was my fault for not interrogating the salesman over every brochure detail to establish if it was a lie or not. Consumer direct etc told me to write to the dealer and sort it, which I did, and ended up with SUK customer services ringing me back instead. Even the dealer said to me "I understand why you're unhappy about it, the brochure is badly worded", so I am posting on here to draw it to people's attention so that they do not end up with a car that doesn't do what they were told!

Simply, three different threads because three different people are asking a question for comments and debate. If the threads were merged I'd post it once.

Or you could have started a new thread for just this topic - like this - rather than resurrecting three old threads in order to post the same comment on each, ending with different replies on each one.

Some forums do seem to regard it as the norm to run everlasting threads which are more-or-less on a single topic but which tend to drift about and often end up with multiple conversations on the same thread. In my experience that causes much confusion eg about who was replying to whom about what. It also makes it much more difficult to find useful information by searching on thread titles. Thankfully, IMO, this forum tends to avoid the worst excesses of that approach.

Or you could have started a new thread for just this topic - like this - rather than resurrecting three old threads in order to post the same comment on each, ending with different replies on each one.

Some forums do seem to regard it as the norm to run everlasting threads which are more-or-less on a single topic but which tend to drift about and often end up with multiple conversations on the same thread. In my experience that causes much confusion eg about who was replying to whom about what. It also makes it much more difficult to find useful information by searching on thread titles. Thankfully, IMO, this forum tends to avoid the worst excesses of that approach.

So start a new thread and end up with four... That makes sense!

On some Forums opening multiple old threads with the same basic question is called "trolling" and is quickly stamped on.

At least now we have ONE thread where perhaps you might get an answer.

For those who feel it is neccessary to question the number of similar threads, then to me the solution is pretty obvious.

Stop posting on those particular threads :wonder:

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