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Lowering your vRS on coil overs

stig1
in Skoda Octavia Mk1 (1996-2004)

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i fitted my whitec coilovers on my vrs about 3 months ago and have been great but i got a r32 farb for it and since fitting that and new poly bushes , i am getting a knock on the front and i think its the anti roll bar links are to long and the bar is fouling on the bottom arms what links can i use or any advise please

i fitted my whitec coilovers on my vrs about 3 months ago and have been great but i got a r32 farb for it and since fitting that and new poly bushes , i am getting a knock on the front and i think its the anti roll bar links are to long and the bar is fouling on the bottom arms what links can i use or any advise please

Snap, absolutely the same problem i get. :thumbdown:

I fitted R32 drop links but these are the same length as the VRS just thicker. I too am sure it is the ARB hitting the lower wishbone. They are very close. But in theory the drop link is fixed to the strut so does not get compressed when the car is under load. And the wishbone moves with the ball joint hub combination that the strut is fixed into so unless there is some kind of other movement they I have not considered that make sthe ARB/Drop link combination touch the wishbone I am a little lost on this.

It does it a low speed I hear it quite a lot. At first thought something was loose

blooming annoying :(

I searched for ages looking for shorter drop links but there is none not even on other car models. The FK drop links are not the same fitment so they are no good.

Be interested to here from folks on this subject

I am actually thinking of putting standard ARB back on because of this issue.

Maybe using Audi TT / Golf R32 wishbones / Hubs is the way to go

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i think you can get adjustable links but not sure where from

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is anything any good off e bay ?

Any lowering over 40/50mm on the Mk4 Golf platform needs different drop links due to ARB clearance :)

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we know that but want to know what our options are and what parts are out there ;)

Sorry not the correct set as they are for the standard Octavia / Golf platform that has the drop links attached from the ARB to the wishbone wheras the VRS has the drop links running from the ARB to the Suspension strut leg(same as the Golf R32, AUDI S3 and Leon Curpra R Mk1) . The VRS and variants with same drop links have the ball joints on them that allow the steering asm to turn without comprimising the ARB.

is anything any good off e bay ?

Yes why not...most of the seller's are the same companies in the car mags or selling the same stuff

Any lowering over 40/50mm on the Mk4 Golf platform needs different drop links due to ARB clearance :)

Agreed but we are not talking about lowering 40/50mm which would be a concern and also relates to the standard Golf platform with the ARB that goes over the drive shafts.

We are talking about the VRS in my case lowered around 25mm with ample clearance to the ARB / Drive shalfts. It is the length of the VRS drop link that is the concern.

I have not seen a VRS type adjustable drop link and happy to be proved wrong......

The drop link needs to be a certain length to allow full steering lock to lock so I would say the drop link only needs to be 10mm shorter.

Mark.

Hi guys, I am after the same thing.

Check this pages 1st is standard drop link and the 2nd is drop link for lowered cars

http://www.deautogroup.com/index.php?m=product&make=SK∂=503

http://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/vmaxx-shortened-front-anti-roll-bar-drop-linksbr-fabia-6y-12-14-14tdi-19sdi-19tdi-20-0100-p-2768.html

Check the length of both items because there is a difference of 11cm, standard one is 270mm = 27cm and lowered is 16cm. I am planing to call dpmperformance to find out how much should be the car lowered to be able to fit and make use of the shortened drop links.

Be back when I find out.

I want to fit apex lowering kit. Thought about koni str.t for a while, but got some recommendations, that koni is too stiff and that may be a problem for me with a baby on board.

volkswagen stabilizer links, check the first one it's length is 20.5cm and thickness is 12mm which is 2mm more than standard fabia 6y2 stabilizer link.

http://www.deautogroup.com/index.php?m=product&make=VW∂=503&page=1

Hope that helps

LuboVRS

Hi guys, I am after the same thing.

Check this pages 1st is standard drop link and the 2nd is drop link for lowered cars

http://www.deautogroup.com/index.php?m=product&make=SK∂=503

http://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/vmaxx-shortened-front-anti-roll-bar-drop-linksbr-fabia-6y-12-14-14tdi-19sdi-19tdi-20-0100-p-2768.html

Check the length of both items because there is a difference of 11cm, standard one is 270mm = 27cm and lowered is 16cm. I am planing to call dpmperformance to find out how much should be the car lowered to be able to fit and make use of the shortened drop links.

Be back when I find out.

I want to fit apex lowering kit. Thought about koni str.t for a while, but got some recommendations, that koni is too stiff and that may be a problem for me with a baby on board.

volkswagen stabilizer links, check the first one it's length is 20.5cm and thickness is 12mm which is 2mm more than standard fabia 6y2 stabilizer link.

http://www.deautogroup.com/index.php?m=product&make=VW∂=503&page=1

Hope that helps

LuboVRS

Hi there , sorry don't really help, as you have a Fabia and we have a Octavia. Two completley different set ups using different drop links.

Your pages relating to a drop link for lowered cars is not for the Octy but Fabia

The Octavia Drop links have ball joint that are 90 degree turned between top and bottom droplink ball joint for a start, and the VRS drop link is 335mm so the nearest size to that in those pics was well over 100mm that had the correct 90 degree bends which is too small and would stop the steering turming lock to lock.

Perhaps you meant to post on the Fabia section?

Thanks

Mark

Anyone have any other comments to this as I don't have a fix for this :wonder:

Possibly see if a local engineering company can fabricate a couple of 10mm shorter droplinks if you can give them the originals to work from?

Possibly see if a local engineering company can fabricate a couple of 10mm shorter droplinks if you can give them the originals to work from?

Yep I think that is the way forward. Take off the old ones angle grid 10 -15mm off and get them welded back together.

cheers

Mark.

Possibly see if a local engineering company can fabricate a couple of 10mm shorter droplinks if you can give them the originals to work from?

Yep I think that is the way forward. Take off the old ones angle grid 10 -15mm off and get them welded back together.

cheers

Mark.

shouldnt be difficult to do, prob will be doing this shortly when i fit my new subframe

shouldnt be difficult to do, prob will be doing this shortly when i fit my new subframe

Hi Sweedish not heard from you for a while mate, not got that subframe fitted yet..

What I want to understand is as the R32 is the same subframe and ARB and drop links why does it not catch on the golf??

Are the golf R32 wishbones different?? I think they are , can't remember now.

Hi Sweedish not heard from you for a while mate, not got that subframe fitted yet..

What I want to understand is as the R32 is the same subframe and ARB and drop links why does it not catch on the golf??

Are the golf R32 wishbones different?? I think they are , can't remember now.

hi mate, am good how are you?

Yes have taken my time...... :smirk:

I have done the brakes,wheels, spacerst and the suspension is now all sorted and at the right height, just building the subframe up at the mo alongside my rack, new front arb and all new bushes and bolts. Been dragging my feet as i still dont have fwd tt hubs to complete the setup I can space my balljoint/hub setup with a washer (to bypass getting new hubs) however the proper part of me wants to get the hubs its just they are just quite expensive for what they are.

R32 wishbones are different as are the TT ones which is what i have, they are cast items and do have mounts for droplinks if i remember correctly.

Good question....just reread the post fully, if its knocking against the wishbone, is it on both sides or just one? Well the tt/s3/r32 hubs have a different balljoint/ fitting angle to allow the wishbone to sit at a near 90deg angle to the road so i think that may be why they dont foul on the other setups. Hmmm, well if thats going to be an issue using my existing hubs then it looks like i have good reason to get the fwd tt hubs after all........

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Cheers Sweedish.

Wow a lot to read there and only just got past page 1. I Will read further.

I am now thinking that it is probably the combination of being lowered plus the slightly thicker ARB of 4mm that has caused the slight knocking. It does appear to be on one side more than the other (drivers side). So maybe as the Audi TT / Golf R32 Wishbone are different they make the wishbone sit at a better level angle and thus it takes the drop links further away from the wishbone, than the VRS set up does.

Maybe that is why a few members on here have no poroblems because they have the complete set up unlike me and the OP who started the thread.

It also looks like I could get modded Audit TT type ball joints for the VRS wishbones that make the wishbone sit better?

Initial thoughts are possibly the best option if cash allows is to get FWD Audi Hubs and ball joints, Audi TT / R32 rack and Wishbones and do the job correctly.

or get friendly welder to shorten the drop links

or fit the standard VRS ARB back on for the time being.

Playing about with the car does bring up challenges don't it :giggle:

Interesting read about disconnecting drop links on the golf improved his handling???

cheers

Mark.

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Cheers Sweedish.

Wow a lot to read there and only just got past page 1. I Will read further.

I am now thinking that it is probably the combination of being lowered plus the slightly thicker ARB of 4mm that has caused the slight knocking. It does appear to be on one side more than the other (drivers side). So maybe as the Audi TT / Golf R32 Wishbone are different they make the wishbone sit at a better level angle and thus it takes the drop links further away from the wishbone, than the VRS set up does.

Maybe that is why a few members on here have no poroblems because they have the complete set up unlike me and the OP who started the thread.

It also looks like I could get modded Audit TT type ball joints for the VRS wishbones that make the wishbone sit better?

Initial thoughts are possibly the best option if cash allows is to get FWD Audi Hubs and ball joints, Audi TT / R32 rack and Wishbones and do the job correctly.

or get friendly welder to shorten the drop links

or fit the standard VRS ARB back on for the time being.

Playing about with the car does bring up challenges don't it :giggle:

Interesting read about disconnecting drop links on the golf improved his handling???

cheers

Mark.

Yes there is loads of info in those threads, and i think you are right i think its the slightly 'lower' angle of the tt setup thats allowing the arb to not foul on that setup. I dont think anyone else on our forum that has a full tt/r32/s3 setup however so how comes others are not having the same issue.

The right way to do it is def using tt hubs, tie rod ends and balljoints with tt wishbones, this allows for the car to be tracked as a tt rather than an octavia. I also have whiteline castor adjusters fitted in my wishbones to allow for further adjustment. FYI the tt wishbone has sloted balljoint fittings to allow for more fine adjustment.

Yes you are right, fix one thing to then break another......you would think we would know better!!! :rofl:

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