Has anyone had any experience of EBC yellowstuff pads?

Either on any disc or more particulary on VRS 312mm discs!?

Ive just fitted these pads to my remapped 130PD and all i can say is now ive bedded them in and finally used them they are PANTS!!!! they bite really well when they are slighty warm at low speeds ok at higher speeds up to about 60 and over that they arent as good as the standard VW pad and when i pushed the car today and got the pads nice and hot, i nearly killed myself coming up to a roundabout as they just didnt nite

Has anyone else had any of these experiences?

Just looking for feedback before i give the company i bought them from and EBC direct an ear full for selling rubbish.

I rightly or wrongly presumed!, i know what they say about presumption but considering there are the best pad that EBC do from green to red and then on to yellow to say im dissappointed would be a massive understatement.

DONT NOT BUY EBC PADS!! THERE ARE DOG TOFFEE!

I thought they would be compareable to Pagid RS-19's which are the best pad ive ever used on any car

Any thoughts from those who ve used them before?

Ain't Yellow stuff for track use?

You would have to be cooking your brakes to bring them up to temp no?

Just looked, supposed to work from cold.

thanks for putting this up mate,i was just gonna get some ebc yellow pads.where did you get the pagid rs19 pads from,do they do the discs to.

Has anyone had any experience of EBC yellowstuff pads?

Either on any disc or more particulary on VRS 312mm discs!?

Ive just fitted these pads to my remapped 130PD and all i can say is now ive bedded them in and finally used them they are PANTS!!!! they bite really well when they are slighty warm at low speeds ok at higher speeds up to about 60 and over that they arent as good as the standard VW pad and when i pushed the car today and got the pads nice and hot, i nearly killed myself coming up to a roundabout as they just didnt nite

Has anyone else had any of these experiences?

Just looking for feedback before i give the company i bought them from and EBC direct an ear full for selling rubbish.

I rightly or wrongly presumed!, i know what they say about presumption but considering there are the best pad that EBC do from green to red and then on to yellow to say im dissappointed would be a massive understatement.

DONT NOT BUY EBC PADS!! THERE ARE DOG TOFFEE!

I thought they would be compareable to Pagid RS-19's which are the best pad ive ever used on any car

Any thoughts from those who ve used them before?

Which version of the Yellowstuff did you get? (Full part number will help)

There are two compounds one of which is suitable for road and one of which really needs 4pots.

I have the feeling you may have been supplied the latter.

Who did you get them from anyway?

I run the reds and they bite very well and have lasted for ages.

Edited 10 June, 201016 yr by cheezemonkhai

They dont do RS 19's for the octavia sadly, i had them on an M3 but they do do RS 5's which are practically the same but they cost just over £200 a set, i suppose you get what you pay for!

As for the compound of the yello stuff pads i know they do two differnet compounds im not sure which ones i have but i dont think ive got the ones designed for fourpots as they are a normal designed pads, if you get my meaning?!

I know yellows are supposed to be designed for the track but im you do some research on the net yourll find im not the only one that has had lack of succuess with these pads, theres some guys in the Octy 2 forum that say they are no good.

Im think im going to go for DS2500 or see if they do DS3000 for the 312mm disc!

I know they say that they are only for race cars but they should work fine on a road car!

BMW say that with the Pagid RS16's they run for group N but i had them on my M3 for years with no hassle and they wore really well and were kind to the discs and the brakes cold, warm or F ing hot were outstanding through out.

I just dont really know what eles to try apart from EBC or the Ferrodo DS 2500 - 3000!

thanks for putting this up mate,i was just gonna get some ebc yellow pads.where did you get the pagid rs19 pads from,do they do the discs to.

Like i said in the other post mate you cat get RS19's for the VRS sadly but you can get others such as RS5 RS4's and so on, if you look at the Pagid website it tells you which ones you can get fot the VRS but yourll need over £200 to get them!

I think they do do discs, not sure what type but really all these cross drilled discs and grooved are a waste of time and outdated if thats what you were looking for?!

I ran RS19's on standard discs and they were fine.

From what im lead to believe Ferrodo DS2500 as the best you can get for the VRS and possibly the DS3000 which is a track only pad according to them and if they do it for the VRS.

Hope this helps

Just out of interest does anyone know the brake coefficient reading for the yellow stuffs through the temps?

I know they usally do it at cold, 100 C, 200C 300C and max temp depending on what that is, say 650C, just curious to compare that with some of the Padig pads!

They dont do RS 19's for the octavia sadly, i had them on an M3 but they do do RS 5's which are practically the same but they cost just over £200 a set, i suppose you get what you pay for!

As for the compound of the yello stuff pads i know they do two differnet compounds im not sure which ones i have but i dont think ive got the ones designed for fourpots as they are a normal designed pads, if you get my meaning?!

I know yellows are supposed to be designed for the track but im you do some research on the net yourll find im not the only one that has had lack of succuess with these pads, theres some guys in the Octy 2 forum that say they are no good.

Im think im going to go for DS2500 or see if they do DS3000 for the 312mm disc!

I know they say that they are only for race cars but they should work fine on a road car!

BMW say that with the Pagid RS16's they run for group N but i had them on my M3 for years with no hassle and they wore really well and were kind to the discs and the brakes cold, warm or F ing hot were outstanding through out.

I just dont really know what eles to try apart from EBC or the Ferrodo DS 2500 - 3000!

I know what you mean, I'm just thinking if you've ended up with the full race compound, then they say that really they are not ideal for systems where you don't get more pressure on the pad. They make both in the octy brake pad size (and no I don't know why they do either).

I'd avoid the DS3000 for road use, as I think they might get a bit iffy at cold should we have a nasty winter again.

DS2500 are good, but they are not R90 approved for road use. That's just something that you should be aware of for consideration, although it's up to you if that's an issue.

I was looking to move to the Yellow from the reds when the discs need doing and I've seen some good reviews and a few not so great, although there are a lot of Anti-EBC people around.

Something that might be worth doing before you spend more money is the to try bedding the yellows in more.

A stretch of clear m/way and some sets of 10 x 70mph to 10mph brake applications to try and get them in.

I say this because I've heard the yellows are a bit pap until bedded in, so maybe that would save you some money until you had a chance to do more research on alternatives.

Edited 10 June, 201016 yr by cheezemonkhai

Yeah I did think about doing some more aggressive bedding in before I moan at EBC lol

Ill let you know how it goes!

The thing is the Pagid RS19's weren’t approved for road use either, when they came they have a big yellow sticker on them say not for road use but they were better than any standard pad from cold even when it was really cold in the winter they were fine, they just squealed like a bitch until they had some heat in them.

But I think you’re right perhaps more beading in is the answer, but having said that ive read quite a few negative reviews on EBC pads whether its yellow green or red and a fair few people don’t like the yellows.

I wanted to get Yellow stuff pads when I had all my brakes done, unit18 said they would be crap for road use so fitted green stuff pads, which I must say I am very happy with.

got red stuffs on mine and no complaints, had green stuff on previous cars and thought they were pap

Just tried re beddign them in even getting them fecking hot, but still no joy, still dog toffee

Theres just no braking effort at over 60 - 70 mph, they are not even as good as the standard pads in imo.

Im not even going to go there with red stuffs, im looking for a pad that bites all through the temp range which, these are supposed to.

Ive been looking on the net and quite a few people have had issues with EBC pads, i think the lesson is stay away from them and by some decent stuff

Anybody got any others pads that are worth trying?

Running out of ideas!

As the DS2500 have had mixed reviews as well so im a little weary of trying them!

Might have to stump up the cash and go for RS5 blues!

Edited 12 June, 201016 yr by dannyboy759

No one!?

im fitting red stuff pads and ultimax discs (front) tomorrow ... ill let u know what they are like

DS2500 get my vote.

Steve

DS2500 get my vote.

Steve

yep i have to agree very good pad

My girlfriend has yellow stuff on her Audi A3 1.8t sport and after using the car myself for a road rally, I don't rate them. Not as dangerous as Green stuff, but I was having issues with brake fade. EBC pads are about as useful as t*ts on a nun.

I run Tarox .401 pads on my VRS. Not cheap, but I know when I hit that middle pedal the car will stop.

I have to say I've found the reds to be excellent and it's a shame you've had issues with the yellows.

The DS2500 do come well spoken of on here.

I'd be very interested to find out which compound of yellows you ended up with and also the response you get from EBC.

I spoke to the company i bought them from!

And they say there is no warrenty on these, well not from them as they ve been used!!!!! dont know how to find out they are rubbish if you dont use them!! anyway they said they would get in contact with EBC and see what they say but as of yet had no reply!

I spoke to the company i bought them from!

And they say there is no warrenty on these, well not from them as they ve been used!!!!! dont know how to find out they are rubbish if you dont use them!! anyway they said they would get in contact with EBC and see what they say but as of yet had no reply!

I would refer them to the sales of goods act 1979 (as amended) and the The Sale and Supply of Goods to Consumers Regulations 2002.

These cover aspects of quality include fitness for purpose, freedom from minor defects, appearance and finish, durability and safety.

You could probably get them on not fit for purpose or the safety as they do not stop the car safely above low speeds (if you can prove it) as well as the standard parts.

Can I ask who you purchased them from, so I don't

Edited 18 June, 201016 yr by cheezemonkhai

brake fade is also to do with your fluid, if your getting bad enough brake fade i'd go about changing your fluid.

As its a different compand it will disperse the heat in more ways i.e fluid. If its boiled your fliud is shagged.

Edited 18 June, 201016 yr by Dan lewis

Yellow stuff are sold for track use so nothing really wrong with them as on the track you'll be hard on the brakes most the time. You just arnt getting them up to temp i think. i had yellowstuff on my track car they were fine if not high on brake dust like most ebc pads

We use Yellowstuff on a couple of race cars - 200bhp MGZR, standard calipers and rotors, and a 400bhp TT with 335mm rotors and Alcon 6-pots. Both work as well as anything else we've tried (including Mintex 1144, DS2500, DS3000), work well from cold and never have issues when used hard. They don't transfer pad material to the disc, wear well and don't seem hard on the rotors.

MM1144 we've found to soft and overheat too quickly for race use, but fine for road. Similar results with DS2500 but to a lesser extent. DS3000 are awesome, ferocious friction, but very agressive on rotors, and I really wouldn't want to use them on the road - I had the race car brakes on my vRS for a period to get some pads bedded in properly and the DS3000's were scary - work surprisingly well from cold but get MUCH stronger as they warm up, so braking ends up VERY non linear from cold on a reasonably strong stop. On the road the pads are fairly much going to be cold at the start of each braking operation, so same thing happens each time. Not to my liking at all, just couldn't get nice progressive braking at all, you are slowing down nicely then all of the sudden peeling yourself from the windscreen.

Regarding warranty and yellowstuff, I believe EBC specifically don't reccomend them for road use, possibly don't have R90 approval for road use even, so may well consider that they aren't suitable for the purpose from the outset..

Ive had redstuff pads in my remapped vrs for a while now. awesome pads, the stopping power is brilliant.