Hi

I have an Octy VRS with 110k miles on the clock and thinking about a remap.

Could you please advise me if the milage is not to high for a remap. And who do you recommend as a specialist in remaping, nearest London.

What sort of power and torque increase would I get from a standard remap?

Thanks for your help.

shouldnt be a prob to remap, if its been looked after it will be fine, Id get it serviced first then take it,

you might find things go tho. but unless you try youll never know.

have a search mate, there will be lots of info.

billy

Hi Billy

Well I did the full service, the car is the ex-police car so hope it is been looked after, but with this milage you never now what's round the corner.

What things could go first in your opinion, if any.

Would I get about 210BHP from a remap? Still thinking if it's worth it.

I went to Woodbridge at the weekend and would be nice to have a bit more power on the track

Cheers

Paul

coil packs, N75, pos N249, MAF could go.

boost leaks ie old pipes and OE DV

tbh anything could but coils are the most common id say.

So long as you get a good map it should be fine. Id say on a std car with 98/99 ron fuel you would get 200-210 ok with a nice increase in torque. well worth it mate. once you start tho its a steep slope to being poor lol.

I dont track mine and nore do i really drive it hard, I only have it all in there to say its there lol. nowadays she is a working car and I have racked up 13k since Feb when I did my service. on 84k now.

I think depending on what cops used it you might find it has a map on it? not sure tho but I thought some had them superchipped to 200ish ne way? might be wong tho.

good luck mate.

as I said tho do your homework and do a search on here for LOTS of info.

billy

If you're in London then you're not a million miles away from AmD in Essex.

http://www.amdessex.com/

They're not exactly cheap (over £400 for a generic remap, uprated divertor valve and air filter) but their generic map is quoted as 210bhp and 250ft/lb torque. And they're the sort of place that will check the car for any issues first, and be happy to help out if you have any problems with old and knackered boost hoses, valves etc.

If you are out on track have you considered brakes and suspension mods before thinking about a remap? You will get much better lap times by being able to brake late into corners and carry speed through them than you will just by being faster on the straights.

Edited 29 June, 201016 yr by chicken_eyebrow

I'm off to r tech a week friday a good 3hr round trip but from what I've heard they are good. £250 with rr runs. my cars got 90k with fsh.

Well my car is now sitting on 130,000 with my first remap installed at around 111,000 miles and 2 remap later on, so I would say no issues.

I have a good 226 BHP and 260ibs of torque which is ample for me.

It all comes down to the life and service of the engine and car. Mine is also a ex police car so service wise top notch.

A poor serviced 40,000 would be more a problem than a high mileage looked after motor.

How often you are using the extra power is also key, and as pointed out the rest of the suspension components and brakes would be older too so these should be considered with the the overal upgrade package especially for track use.

Edited 29 June, 201016 yr by Bowders1

I'm off to r tech a week friday a good 3hr round trip but from what I've heard they are good. £250 with rr runs. my cars got 90k with fsh.

Could you give us a feedback once you will have it all done please. 250£ sounds as a good deal.

I have an r-tech geniric remap on mine not impressed tbf

Well my car is now sitting on 130,000 with my first remap installed at around 111,000 miles and 2 remap later on, so I would say no issues.

I have a good 226 BHP and 260ibs of torque which is ample for me.

It all comes down to the life and service of the engine and car. Mine is also a ex police car so service wise top notch.

A poor serviced 40,000 would be more a problem than a high milage looked after motor.

How often you are using the extra power is also key, and as pointed out the rest of the suspension components and brakes would be older too so these should be considered with the te hoveral upgrade package especially for track use.

Thanks for all the info

Well I have noticed that the brakes and suspension are not the top notch on the track.

The car was to soft in the long fast corners. I would like to get that sorted, aswell but don't have all the money to do it all in one go.

Did you upgrade your brakes and suspension? What sort of money does it cost, not the top components of course.

I have also heard that clutch and gearbox might go if there is to much torque and power.

I want to use it mainly on the track, but I'm not Hamilton :( so I would be happy to increase the power first, and than think about the rest of what is needed.

Even as the car is now, it was a good fun on the track. I'm going to test it again, Brands Hatch this Thursday.

Thanks again for all your coments

Edited 29 June, 201016 yr by Paulski.

Did you upgrade your brakes and suspension? What sort of money does it cost, not the top components of course.

I would be happy to increase the power first, and than think about the rest of what is needed.

Better to do it the other way round, sort the brakes and suspension out first, then get a remap. Whether it will be for road use or track use. The last thing you want is to get carried away with the extra power and torque of a remap and end up heading for a corner that your brakes and suspension won't get you round.

I'd recommend a set of coilovers, a rear anti roll bar, and some uprated front discs and pads and brake fluid. With the age of the car it would be worth replacing all the suspension bushes too with powerflex/superpro items (or TT bushes for the wishbones). That may sound like a lot to spend your money on but you could easily spend double that on power mods like a remap, turbo back exhaust, intercooler etc.

Better to do it the other way round, sort the brakes and suspension out first, then get a remap. Whether it will be for road use or track use. The last thing you want is to get carried away with the extra power and torque of a remap and end up heading for a corner that your brakes and suspension won't get you round.

I'd recommend a set of coilovers, a rear anti roll bar, and some uprated front discs and pads and brake fluid. With the age of the car it would be worth replacing all the suspension bushes too with powerflex/superpro items (or TT bushes for the wishbones). That may sound like a lot to spend your money on but you could easily spend double that on power mods like a remap, turbo back exhaust, intercooler etc.

Agreed there buddy +1

Paulski, look at the list of my mods to get a overal idea of what i have changed regarding suspension components.

As mine was a higher mileage motor, brakes a suspension was my first mods, as even from new the VRS handling is soft and bouncy and not much damping for brisk road use let alone track use.

I have tried various suspension set ups slowly going more stiffer as time went on as that is how i like the set up on my car.

I have not gone for the most expensive but more tried and tested route and reasonable value, but even resonable value for all the mods i have done is scary listing the prices.

Order i would do mods. certainly for track use.

1. RARB

2. Bushes . Wishbone, Dogmount , FARB

3. Suspension. if you like track then coilovers something like Weitec GT's, SPAX RSX's, H&R or KW if money no option

4. Brakes , definatley uprated pads. I went for Black Diamond drilled and grooves disc's with preditar pads

4. Lots on Engine bolt on mods, can;'t be bothered listing these but on my sig,

5. Remap, I had a generic to start with then went REVO stage 1 for approx 210 BHP and then REVO stage 2 for current BHP

Also note if you intend to go further than stage 1 remap better intercoolers will be needed. like a FMIC

That order is not a must for road use, but if you go remap first, trust me you will start to use the power where you can and find limitation on the standard brakes and suspension.

cheers

Mark.

Edited 29 June, 201016 yr by Bowders1

I have an r-tech geniric remap on mine not impressed tbf

In what way?

I have some flat spots, told me to change a pipe at £55 did it no change. If you want a map thats in your face from start to about 5k then about 5mins down the road there is some one whom maps them too.

And as said in another thread i rang them up asking about an issue i had. lamba readings high. They wanted me to pay to leave it there for a day. Rang awesome and they told me cts and Maf changed them runs sooo much better.

Thank you all for the usefull information, great help

I have some flat spots, told me to change a pipe at £55 did it no change. If you want a map thats in your face from start to about 5k then about 5mins down the road there is some one whom maps them too.

And as said in another thread i rang them up asking about an issue i had. lamba readings high. They wanted me to pay to leave it there for a day. Rang awesome and they told me cts and Maf changed them runs sooo much better.

Thats very Strange. I had mine remapped by R-Tech and Nick told me the car wasn't responding with the requested boost and told me the things to check.

A couple of days later I got a CEL and posted on here about it and Nick called me up to help me through it.

I forgot to call him back and he again called me to chase it up.

I went there for a RR day and I was a little down on boost and he traced it to a leaking charge pipe (while others were still waiting to be rolled)

Again I was down on boost and he told me to bring it up to him and he would do a tweak on my map for a couple of changes I have made and diagnose the problem for a very reasonable price.

I can't recommend the bloke enough for his customer service.

Oh, and mine pulls strong all the way to 6k

Edited 29 June, 201016 yr by Bertee

Split r has gone Pipe has been changed. New MAF, New CTS, Hardware issues i wasnt told of any hardware issues. Just that his map was a lot more violent earlier in the rev range and yours wasnt just has some flat spots yet his didnt.

I am running your map, I took it there as he offered me a session for £25 had nothing better to do that day. He then put on his map he has then we returned it to your map.

this is why Nick will be remaping my car on a week friday, he seems to actually care about his rep so goes the extra mile to ensure you are happy. hopefully you won't have any problems with my car.

anyone got a LPG converted car that is mapped?

Can it be done??

I have LPG in my car, after the remap you should go to your LPG dealer and tweak the map.

I think depending on what cops used it you might find it has a map on it? not sure tho but I thought some had them superchipped to 200ish ne way? might be wong tho.

billy

As a rule I've not heard of any forces mapping their VRS's, they're all standard (but well looked after and driven well, the majority of the time not 'in anger.')

I'm Plod...and funnily enough only bought my VRS after having a play at work when we got them.

Thanks for this thread btw, mine too has 110k on it and I'm trying and failing to talk myself out of a remap

Edited 30 June, 201016 yr by ade t

My bro is looking to remap his 140k+ Golf in the very near future, it still pulls very strong and ran well the last RR day we went to.

The only real danger of remapping a high miler, I think, is that if there is a weakness a remap will show you it.

But that is true of any motor tbh

Edited 30 June, 201016 yr by Bertee

I had mine re-mapped at 113k, and I've not had any problems. As long as your car is well maintained, there shouldn't be any major issues.

The thing is you can drive the car in exactly the same way as before, you don't have to floor it everywhere if you don't want to!! It just feels like someone's taken away a power limiter, and now the limiter is your right foot. Day to day my car drives exactly the same as it did before, but when I go for an overtake, or when I feel like a blast, the thing just takes off now and keeps on pulling till you run out of gears and bravery.

Having said that, I did do a hard launch the other day to see what it was like now! Holy crapola it's fast off the line now! It's put a massive dent in the standard cars 0-60 time. I'm not a fan of launching off the line, mainly because it's so hard on the car, but I was impressed anyway. The best feeling is 100 to 150mph though, that's impressive acceleration.

I say get the remap and get on with life.

I had mine re-mapped at 113k, and I've not had any problems. As long as your car is well maintained, there shouldn't be any major issues.

The thing is you can drive the car in exactly the same way as before, you don't have to floor it everywhere if you don't want to!! It just feels like someone's taken away a power limiter, and now the limiter is your right foot. Day to day my car drives exactly the same as it did before, but when I go for an overtake, or when I feel like a blast, the thing just takes off now and keeps on pulling till you run out of gears and bravery.

Having said that, I did do a hard launch the other day to see what it was like now! Holy crapola it's fast off the line now! It's put a massive dent in the standard cars 0-60 time. I'm not a fan of launching off the line, mainly because it's so hard on the car, but I was impressed anyway. The best feeling is 100 to 150mph though, that's impressive acceleration.

I say get the remap and get on with life.

German AutoBahn of course lol

German AutoBahn of course lol

Naa Huddersfield town centre on a Saturday afternoon. It's OK though, as if you hit the first speedbump at 150mph you get a good 30 foot of air, so you can fly clear over the pedestrians and buses no problem. I find it's safer than doing 20 mph on the ground.

Ha! Yes it's all about the de-restricted sections of autobahn when they are empty and dry. My challenge was to hit 150 on the clock, and when I did I backed off straight away as it's kinda scary! She did feel like she had a bit more to give though. You just begin to worry about the revs!