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Don't rise to the bait xpower.

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  • shane_saintsfc
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    I don't see why you would want them on full brightness when on sidelights. Sidelights are mainly for when parked up / stationary. If you need light to the front & rear then just put your dipped he

  • With all due respect, I think that if the light is that poor, you should only be considering switching on your headligjhts anyway! Sidelights are only marker lamps for when you are stationary. John.

  • OK, how about less of the 'should it be done' and more of the 'can it be done'?

Don't rise to the bait xpower.

I think I might start a HID thread and see if they hi-jack that, just for fun.

Ps. If you take a look I didn't start this thread, and there are more people who want this than you might think.

I think we should stick to the OP's question and only post if you have something that will enable us to complete this.

I suspect that noting will come of this until I get my Octy in September, I will then look using an oscilloscope / multimeter and find out exactly what happens when the drls dim, and hopefully come up with a successful solution.

Ps. I also may add a switch so when I see 'certain people' on the road I can bring the LED's up to full illumination AT NIGHT :-p

here we go

Surely twilight (you know, that time when it's too light for headlights and to dark for no illumination) when you want sidelights on is also a time when you want a bit of extra visibility to other motorists.

Also I use sidelights at all times, particularly so that the rear can be lit up and therefore more visible and be more visible at the front.

So for me full brightness DRL's with sidelights and dimming with headlights would be preferred.

Surely twilight (you know, that time when it's too light for headlights and to dark for no illumination) when you want sidelights on is also a time when you want a bit of extra visibility to other motorists.

Also I use sidelights at all times, particularly so that the rear can be lit up and therefore more visible and be more visible at the front.

So for me full brightness DRL's with sidelights and dimming with headlights would be preferred.

I have said this but some people on here just don't seem to get it. They think were are going to drive around when its almost / pretty much dark with our full brightness DRL's on.

For me i also prefer the rear lit up but also the dash illumination. Unfortunately switch the side lights on to do this and the LED's turn into poor candles which can barely been seen.

I love how everybody is getting on his back with their legal **** waving... At the end of the day we are talking about his car and his decision.

I'm not going to cast judgement on whether it should or shouldn't be done that wasn't the question the OP asked and I don't know if it is possible or not...

mdon, I'm presuming as you are preaching the rights and wrongs that you have NEVER broken the law in any way???

Can't believe the led's are that much brighter than xenons anyway

  • 3 weeks later...

OK, Ive done it!!!!!

My DRL's now do not dim on sidelight position but DO dim on headlight position.

Here's how, and i'll tell you the BUT after.

Each side DRL has 3 wires, 2 of them appear to be used 1 does not. The way is works is simple, There is a live supplied by the central electrics module on a grey wire / black trace (L/H side) and an earth (black wire)

The Control module simply applies a 12 volt (battery voltage so it changes a little) feed for full brightness (DRL mode) and the PWM the voltage supply to get the DRL to dim.

It PWM's the DRL with a duty cycle of 9.5 milliseconds with a switch on time of 1ms and switch of time of 8.5ms (basically switches it on and off faster than the eye can see, this means you only 'see the led's at a reduced brightness) Roughly 89% reduction in current flow.

The way of overriding it? Apply a 12volt feed via a 5 pin relay to the Grey / black wire which is then broken (the 12v feed) upon switching the headlights on (feed is broken by using the 12v headlight live to trigger the relay).

See pics

Quick wiring diagram

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L/H headlight live trigger, yellow wire black trace

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L/H LED DRL plug (3 wire)

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Now the BUT..........................................

It will unfortunately throw a bulb failure warning light on the dash / MFD, as the input current / voltage (the bit the ECU is putting in) does not match the output values (as we are supplying a second voltage on top, thus overriding the brightness)

So the choice is yours unless anyone can find a way of overriding the bulb warning lights.

This would actually be easier to do if the LED's were disabled and the little 501 in the headlight could be used. It would only mean putting a resistor where the bulb should be and then controlling the LED DRL completely separately with a relay.

I personally have a bit of OCD and couldn't live with the bulb failure light so I have removed it until I can find another way.

Funny my Non-Vrs FL model only has 2 wires running to the DRL Bulb on bumper

Well, went to the dealer today for a quick coding session and it turns out they CAN activate led DRL's at full brightness with taillights / number plate lights together, this is on a new 2012 car. (like the Scandinavian mode on pre-FL)

Perfect for me, also they activated led dimming when indicating but couldn't do fogs as cornering lights as there was no option on their VAS.

All I want now is permanent dash illumination as even in the daytime I find the speedo & rev counter easier to see when their backlit.

ps. absolutely loving my cr vRS DSG

  • 3 years later...

Ok, I have finally got a copy of ELSAwin and have the wiring diagram for the LED DRL's. It appears there is 3 connections to the LED itself and the LED has a built in module as such.

One is a direct chassis earth and the other 2 are supplies from the lighting module (i think).

This maybe as simple as it supplies a live to the L/H wire to gain full illumination and then either an earth path or live to the R/H wire to place them in reduced intensity mode.

Could anyone try a multimember on theirs to see what is happening?

If this is true then it would be extremely simple to disable them dimming when on the sidelight position, but allow them to dim as usual when the headlights are switched on.

See the wiring diagram below

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hey thanks for this post.

 

Im trying to fit a vrs bumper with the drls and fogs into my non vrs octy a5 f/l. This wiring diagram will definitely come in handy. Could you post the wiring diagram for the right side DRL too? Im quite sure its similar but would like to know for sure.

 

Thanks

I believe that skoda do not refer to them as side lights. In my book they are referred to as parking lights. Left or right is switched on by pushing the indicator stock in the required direction for the light you want illuminated. If both are required position headlight switch to the middle/12 o'clock position.

That isn't word for word from the book but it is pretty much what it says.

Skoda refer to them as both side and parking lights in the manual, page 48...

 

Lights and Visibility.
 
Switching Switching lights on and off.
 
Switching on side lights.
– Turn the light switch fig. 37 into position.
 
Switching on the low beam and main beam.
– Turn the light switch into position.
– Push the main beam lever slightly forward in the spring-tensioned position in order to switch on the main beam page 54, fig. 43.
 
Switching off lights (except daylight driving lights).
– Turn the light switch into position.
 
The dipped beam continues to shine while the ignition is switched on and the light.
switch is in the position or. After switching off the ignition, the low beam is switched off automatically and only the side lights come on. The parking light also goes out after the ignition key is removed.
 
On vehicles with separate lights for daylight driving lights in the fog lights or in the front bumper, the low beam does not light up when the light switch is in position 0
even if the ignition is switched on.
 
On models fitted with right-hand steering the position of certain switches differs from that shown.
  • 1 year later...

Hi all. I baught some drl headlights. they have dtm rings in and when i had them installed I had the option of having the rings wired to sidelights or normal power. I chose sidelights. they have never been bright in daytime looks silly however look nice in dull light. If I wired them up to 0 on switch instead of sidelights would they automaticaly be brighter?  Thanks

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