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VOSA havealso been emissions testing around here with the mobile van.

ha, when i got done a while ago, my emissions were so far off the scale the geezer was like "I think it's lost it's calibration settings or something, it appears to be not working properly" but that was before i changed the piston rings and it was using as much oil as petrol!! btw folks i think it was me that single-handedly caused global warming

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Wish I had taken some sneaky pics of the real chav cars that where getting checked there was a corsa with a god awful body kit and exhuasts the size of wheely bins and even a nissan micra with donner take away advertisements all over it think he was getting done for haveing bald tyres and clocks not working and some posh twot in a 60 plate land rover sport was getting his hands slapped for tinted windows I was half expecting them to test the fuel as they had all the kit there wounder how many people they did pull in the end? I will have to buy the local paper next week and see if I'm famous as they where takeing pics

Wish I had taken some sneaky pics of the real chav cars that where getting checked there was a corsa with a god awful body kit and exhuasts the size of wheely bins and even a nissan micra with donner take away advertisements all over it think he was getting done for haveing bald tyres and clocks not working and some posh twot in a 60 plate land rover sport was getting his hands slapped for tinted windows I was half expecting them to test the fuel as they had all the kit there wounder how many people they did pull in the end? I will have to buy the local paper next week and see if I'm famous as they where takeing pics

start a facebook page "friends of pwned by VOSA" or similar... :giggle:

they have been doing this kind of thing for years, my mate got pulled in his van and he called me out to remove his tints as they wouldnt let him go til they were off.

it doesn serve some purpose but to those who commented saying about insurance, bald tyres etc. you will most likely find that people with modified cars take very good care of them and are legal in those respects.

targeting modified cars is not the way to go, there could be someone driving passed in a non insured standard car with bald tyres and no mods and because they are not driving what they are targeting would not even get a second look unless it had been picked up on anpr.

you will most likely find that people with modified cars take very good care of them and are legal in those respects.

I think not; yes, there are a lot of people who mod and are proud of their carefully modded and well maintained cars, but there are even more car chavs driving clapped out rust buckets covered in cheap and nasty (also dangerous and illegal), body kits and mods.

If VOSA have a spot check round here they will catch 90% of the chavs on the local sink estates driving illegally modded cars, often with illegal or non-existent insurance, as well as a fair few "rich" people with illegal vanity mods like silver and black, or modified number plates, including one pub owner who has modded his number plates to read "RED LION" (Guess the name of the pub).

The fuzz turn a total blind eye to most of these mods, one of the silver and black number plate jobs is on her 3rd Freelander with the same plates.

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To be honist I didn't mind getting pulled as I do take care of my car and mod it properly I was abit miffed that I had to get to take the sun strip of there and then with only my nails as I honestly didn't know it was illegal/mot fail issue but I suppose you live and learn with regards the number plate if I'm geussing he let that slide as I was very polite and did as they asked with out question as argueing as some of the other drivers where doing was just makeing the VOSA blokes inspect every inch of there car and make them wait even longer at the end of the day if they stop un insured drivers being on the road or un safe cars then I don't mind haveing them stop me I have nothing to hide and I learnt some thing new (never drive through halifax on a saturday night)

Po po do have the power to check MOT - it shows up on PNC checks if the MOT is out of date and then you can get a lovely £60 fine or, more often than not (if I pull someone over) a HO/RT form and advice to get it done ASAP. Not all bobbies enjoy giving out tickets - contrary to what seems like popular belief by a few on here - I for one would much rather be locking up drug dealers and 'real' criminals who make life miserable for those who pay their taxes and expect a decent level of service from the police.

Po po do have the power to check MOT - it shows up on PNC checks if the MOT is out of date and then you can get a lovely £60 fine or, more often than not (if I pull someone over) a HO/RT form and advice to get it done ASAP. Not all bobbies enjoy giving out tickets - contrary to what seems like popular belief by a few on here - I for one would much rather be locking up drug dealers and 'real' criminals who make life miserable for those who pay their taxes and expect a decent level of service from the police.

Err, you should only be issuing a HO/RT1 if you believe there to be a valid MOT that isn't showing on PNC, otherwise you're just setting up the motorist to be reported for driving without MOT and also for failing to produce documents. It can leave you open to complaints for abuse of process

To who? That's going to be a massive inconvenience going all the way to one of the VOSA testing centres. Not only that, as said, why get someone it check it twice? We deal with vosa at work, and if they don't like something the bus/car/lorry don't move till it's been sorted normally.

Matt

so doing it at the side of the road without any tools is ideal? theres mot centre's in every town nowadays surely? or maybe its just that i have 5 within a m ile of me emoticon-0136-giggle.gif

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so doing it at the side of the road without any tools is ideal? theres mot centre's in every town nowadays surely? or maybe its just that i have 5 within a m ile of me emoticon-0136-giggle.gif

i have never had to remove a sunstrip with out tools and you can take my word for it, it aint easy but i was surprised that i wasnt allowed to go on may way and told to get it removed then go to an mot station and get the ticket stamped as i had to do many moons ago when my number plates where not legal lettering :thumbdown:

i have never had to remove a sunstrip with out tools and you can take my word for it, it aint easy but i was surprised that i wasnt allowed to go on may way and told to get it removed then go to an mot station and get the ticket stamped as i had to do many moons ago when my number plates where not legal lettering emoticon-0149-no.gif

thought id read that you had no tools to use? [ignore that then]

regards the producer ticket thats exactly what i was talking about in my earlier posts, i would have thought a producer would have been the result emoticon-0148-yes.gif

I would say it depends on whether or not you're allowed to rectify it later, then have that confirmed within 7 days. If they deem it to be a safety issue (i.e. they consider your vision to be suitably impaired that it becomes unsafe - whether you agree or not) you'll be asked to sort it there and then. Same can go for tints.

The reason being if you've been stopped, given a rectification instruction and then sent on your way, and you have an incident/collision before you've sorted the issue, they could be shown to be negligible for not ensuring that the change was made earlier. The same is true of illegal tints to the windscreen or front side windows.

The issue of whether to target 'modified' cars is a double-edged sword in my view. While many that are seen on here and other car clubs/forums have been done to a high standard and are cared for, there are many more to which bodged and downright dangerous changes have been made. And you can't blame VOSA for targeting cars that look obviously different to standard - the tests they'll then conduct will show whether the changes made are upto scratch or not.

Steve

so doing it at the side of the road without any tools is ideal? theres mot centre's in every town nowadays surely? or maybe its just that i have 5 within a m ile of me emoticon-0136-giggle.gif

So who's going to pay for these mot centres to be checking cars over?

I just had a thought, if the law relates to distance based on area swept by wipers, then all you have to do is fit smaller wipers and your sun strip is legal.

As others have said you were lucky not to get done for the plate!

I remember seeing a guy gettng followed into our car park at work by a T5 and the copper come out with his light detector to measure his tints, poor bloke had to stand there pullig the tints off the glass piece by piece whilst the copper watched, didn't go until he'd done both front side windows!

So who's going to pay for these mot centres to be checking cars over?

iirc they already have to do checks like that, ie if illegal plates are fitted etc, but would checking if theres a sunstrip or not and stamping a ticket be that much hassle really? emoticon-0148-yes.gif

iirc they already have to do checks like that, ie if illegal plates are fitted etc, but would checking if theres a sunstrip or not and stamping a ticket be that much hassle really? emoticon-0148-yes.gif

No, but if people regularly walked into your place of work and wanted you do 5 mins of work FOC how would you feel?

Oh and every 6 months or so those odd people would end up being 20 people - all expecting your services for free.

The only way this would work is if EVERY car that was not legal had a £60 fine imposed, then £20 - £30 of that could be paid to the MOT centre that check the car over, don't forget some checks will be a bit more thorough and will require the car to go on a ramp etc.

No, but if people regularly walked into your place of work and wanted you do 5 mins of work FOC how would you feel?

Oh and every 6 months or so those odd people would end up being 20 people - all expecting your services for free.

The only way this would work is if EVERY car that was not legal had a £60 fine imposed, then £20 - £30 of that could be paid to the MOT centre that check the car over, don't forget some checks will be a bit more thorough and will require the car to go on a ramp etc.

tbh i dont know what other checks they have to do, i was just referring to illegal plates and the sunstrip issue initially mentioned, emoticon-0148-yes.gif

The checks should be on everything covered in the MOT, so exhaust condition, shockers leaking, tyre damage (inside) oil / fluid leaks etc would all need to go on a ramp.

My point was why should a third party do any of these checks and stamp any paperwork for free? They were not the ones who broke the law with a non legal car, so why should they not be paid for their time?

You could also argue (as VOSA indeed would) that if the car is indeed dangerous or not legal to drive on the road then the issues should be rectified BEFORE it is allowed back on the road, a bit of discretion would be needed in the case of a blown bulb or number plates if it was in broad daylight, but with regards to visibility being reduced to what the law sees as an unacceptable level, then yes IMO they should be make legal before the car is driven.

The checks should be on everything covered in the MOT, so exhaust condition, shockers leaking, tyre damage (inside) oil / fluid leaks etc would all need to go on a ramp.

My point was why should a third party do any of these checks and stamp any paperwork for free? They were not the ones who broke the law with a non legal car, so why should they not be paid for their time?

You could also argue (as VOSA indeed would) that if the car is indeed dangerous or not legal to drive on the road then the issues should be rectified BEFORE it is allowed back on the road, a bit of discretion would be needed in the case of a blown bulb or number plates if it was in broad daylight, but with regards to visibility being reduced to what the law sees as an unacceptable level, then yes IMO they should be make legal before the car is driven.

As above. It's not just 5 min work, and even if it was, when there's lots Turning up and your trying to do a mot or something that'd be very annoying.

Matt

agreed it would be annoying if it was anything more than number plate issues etc emoticon-0148-yes.gif

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Taken from the local news paper

Officers from the police, HM Revenue and Customs, and Vehicle and Operator Services Agency (VOSA) stopped vehicles on Bull Green in the town centre on Friday night.

The operation was in response to a residents and police meeting which highlighted

anti-social driving as an issue during the evenings.

The team examined 65 private cars, 13 private hire vehicles and carried out two breath tests.

VOSA slapped eight vehicles with immediate prohibition notices for obstructed windscreens, defective tyres, broken headlights, side window tints and broken brake lamps.

Customs checked 25 cars for the correct diesel and all passed but two motorists will have to appear before the courts after officers found two defective tyres on both cars.

Section officer Graham Lynch, of Calderdale special constables, who co-ordinated the operation, said: "This met the concerns of local people regarding the anti-social use of vehicles in the town centre. I hope this sends a clear message that we will act robustly in response to matters they bring to our attention."

Senior section officer Stuart Clarke added: "The key aim of the operation was road safety, and while ideally we would have liked to have found no problems, we instead found a number of serious defects these have been identified and drivers have been required to take immediate action. This operation has removed some potentially very dangerous vehicles from the road.

West Yorkshire Police are currently recruiting special constables. For more information visit www.westyorkshire.police.uk.

Special constables are unpaid volunteers with identical powers to full-time paid constables and are asked to give a minimum of 16 hours a month duty to the police. This year specials have provided 4,500 hours of duty in Calderdale

I'll have to keep my eyes out. I'm in Kirklees but if Calderdale think it was worth while Kirklees are bound to have a go.

Chris

I don't know about England/wales/Ireland, but up my way a few years ago when i drove a 'modded' car, those who got the ticket to get stamped by a garage got charged £20 by the garage themselves for the stamp, so, they make good money out of it!! ie, £20 for checking a headlight bulb, new tyre or wiper blade :smirk:

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I got my roadworthiness prohibition notice through the post

Windscreen vision obstructed and drivers veiw

Of the road seriously impaired opague strip on windscreen

You'd think I'd murdered someone

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