Hello again. Well, interesting times once more. The car is achieving between55 and 58mpg at the moment, albeit not at 70mph. I've read the comments earlier about whether the test is at fault or my car isn't representative, but the issue I find most worrying is the DPF regeneration. If one is occuring and I need to slow down considerable because I hit traffic, the engine shakes something terrible and appears very close to stalling. Should this occur whilst in queued traffic, I'd venture it's even dangerous as the car can suddenly accelerate as the engine picks up a little trying to avoid stalling. At least, that's my interpretation, but speed control becomes 'interesting' with the engine revs fluctuating around and the shaking.

Skoda have investigated this, including their central people in Milton Keynes over an internet link and insist nothing is wrong. There are numerous postings all over the net of other people encountering this and someone who has replied to this thread has also encountered this. One person has even posted that the only 'fix' was to replace the DPF. A big and expensive job that I'm sure Skoda aren't about to do. Personally, I suspect there's something wrong with a sensor or similar, but Skoda are unable to do anything unless the computer sees a fault, and it doesn't.

I've already had a DPF temperature sensor fail (which was replaced under warrantly) and it looks like I'm about to pay another visit. All the interior fan settings with the exception of 4 don't work anymore. Looking online, it would appear the blower resistor (although I believe it actually contains several) has failed. Another job under warrantly. This is rapidly becoming the most unreliable car I've ever owned, with two repairs within 18 months of buying (23,000 miles) and I'm sure a latent problem with the engine somewhere.

I think it's about time the managing director of Skoda UK got a letter from me. I can explain all the issues and also complain about their appalling centralised 'customer services' as well. I've had to phone them several times and they are absolutely useless. Guess I'll see what happens and will post back.

Hi Mike, reading your posts regarding engine judder/shaking and responses from dealer/Skoda describes exactly what I have experienced (see my posts on previous page), my vehicle has just spent 2 weeks with the dealer to try and get to the bottom of this only to be told nothing is wrong, apparently numerous tests were carried out and results sent to Skoda for analysis, engine software was updated and even changed the throttle pedal. After the first week I was told it was ready to pick up, when I did I found at the first set of traffic lights the judder/shaking/erratic idle was worse than it had ever been, went straight back to the garage and showed them, was told it didn't seem right and that they would keep hold of it for more testing. I was given an Octavia 1.6 (105) to see if it shared the same engine issues as my Fabia, (it did not). After the second week I was told again it was ready to collect and that again nothing wrong was found all test results were cleared by Skoda technical, the dealer said they had not come across this issue before but had contacted a couple of other dealers and found one that had and it was down to the DPF operating (18 months to get this far). Because Skoda had told them there is no fault with the car there was nothing more they could do, one thing they did do before I took it back was to carry out a forced regen of the DPF and note the readings, I was told the readings were as low as they could be at time of collection. I have contacted Skoda customer services who (after prompting) investigated this and came back to me saying there is no fault with the car but it is a characteristic of the engine and there is nothing more they can do. Obviously I don't accept this, if had wanted the characteristics of a tractor I would have bought a tractor! I was asked what I was looking for as remedy to my complaint, I said I had lost confidence in the vehicle, also the wife refuses to drive it I would be prepared to change the vehicle, Skoda customer services went back to the dealer and told them this. I was prepared to upgrade to an Octavia but the deal I was offered I considered very poor, I thought (wrongly) there may have been some sort of goodwill gesture in the mix for the amount of time I have wasted visiting the dealer over the last 18 months. I'm now at the stage where I just want to cut my losses and get shot of it and move onto another manufacturer. This was my first venture to Skoda and certainly my last.

Mike,

What tickover rpm is indicated when a regen is occurring?

As I've posted before the only indication I get is the tickover staying just under 1000rpm rather than the normal just under 900rpm when the car is rolling and just under 800rpm when stationary.

I have never had vibration or the feeling the car was about to stall.

If the car didn't have a tacho the only time I'd notice a regen when driving is when it does not complete so continues on the next journey. Then after a mile for a couple of miles the car is noticeably jerky / surges at light throttle / low revs.

As to my ongoing comments about the mpg dropping around 12% after a regen for 100+ miles it is deeper than just the cost of the extra diesel because I wonder what is happening regarding the DPF and the CAT if the emissions are higher.

The car is in for the 1st service in a fortnight and this is down for investigation. There is a case file with Skoda HQ after my discussion but, according to the person I spoke to, they have had no other reports of this issue.

We've done ~20k miles in our Fabia now and although I hardly drive the car in comparison to my wife I have noticed it doing the regen a few times, and each time it was in traffic. I assume this is because I don't notice if it does it on the motorway. The car does shudder and does feel like it might stall. It's quite embarassing really to be sat in traffic with this happening. I've just put it down to bad timing (how can the car know you'll hit traffic?) and hadn't thought to mention it when taking it for services. I assumed it was just a "feature". Might be worth mentioning next time I take it in.

Slightly more on topic - consumption seems to be ~52mpg calculated no matter if there's a canoe on the roof or not....

I have had a year old (bought second hand) 105hp diesel Fabia for about 4 months now. I read the handbook and the threads here and came to the conclusion that I should avoid supermarket fuel. Therefore, I tried different brands and grades of oil company fuel for each tankful.

This test indicated that buying super-diesel gave worse fuel consumption than standard. Also, the engine idled badly around 1000 rpm when using these more expensive fuels.

So, I stick to Shell V-power and all is well. I don't think this fuel is better than anything else but the car is happy using it. I suspect that the engine management computer has tuned itself to this fuel and gets upset when an alternative is used. If I changed to one of the super-diesels and used it continuously for several tankfuls, the engine would have retuned itself to this fuel. Then using anything else would cause it to be upset.

I have had a year old (bought second hand) 105hp diesel Fabia for about 4 months now. I read the handbook and the threads here and came to the conclusion that I should avoid supermarket fuel. Therefore, I tried different brands and grades of oil company fuel for each tankful.

This test indicated that buying super-diesel gave worse fuel consumption than standard. Also, the engine idled badly around 1000 rpm when using these more expensive fuels.

So, I stick to Shell V-power and all is well. I don't think this fuel is better than anything else but the car is happy using it. I suspect that the engine management computer has tuned itself to this fuel and gets upset when an alternative is used. If I changed to one of the super-diesels and used it continuously for several tankfuls, the engine would have retuned itself to this fuel. Then using anything else would cause it to be upset.

I also ran vpower diesel in the same engine, until I sold both my fabias for a golf lol

Hello Delta925,

My car seems to have only two RPMs. Somewhere around 750 when stationary (and warm) and around 1000 when either rolling or regening. Haven't noticed any real difference between these. When stationary and regening, the RPM is about 1000, but the needle is noticably twitchy in tune with the engine shaking and almost stalling. In other words, when the needle can be seen to twitch down, the car almost stalls and then revs up a little as if the engine management system realises and gives it a few more revs.

My fuel economy definitely goes down after a regen, not during. This lasts for a while and then it goes back up again. I also notice the car is more responsive and requires less throttle at this time. Just before a regen, it feels more sluggish and needs more throttle. In fact, the car feels different to drive at different times and I haven't been able to establish a reason. It doesn't seem to matter what the temperature, humidity etc.etc. is. There doesn't appear to be a pattern.

If you have a look on the net, you will see that Skoda are well aware of this issue and it is widely reported by other people. By this, I mean the shuddering at various times. In fact, when my heater fan was repaired (18 months old and blower resistors failed), I mentioned this in the dealership and one of them actually said it was a well known issue with CR engines, especially the 1.6!!

Astra1,

Well, I'll have to see what the MD of Skoda says. Funny thing is, there appear to be very good cars (and there's plenty of evidence on here) and some very bad cars as well. However, Skoda seem blind to these cars and just deny everything. Both VW and SEAT also have reports of this as well, with someone telling me there are 1500 SEAT Ibiza's with the issue. Don't know if that's true or not, just something I found on a forum. Either way, I'm not happy at all with Skoda. Their customer service is abysmal and they just deny everything. I'm not talking about the dealership here, but Skoda central. The call centre is incredibly condascending and does absolutely nothing.

At this rate, I'm not buying another Skoda either. It seems you either get a good one and love it, or a bad one and hate it. Nothing in between.

I know there are some on here who laud the merits of the engine, but it seems quality control is very poor. Either that, or there's a funadamental issue with the engines.

Seboni 121,

I would also like to drive my Fabia hard (by that I mean drive at 70-75mph), but if I do, the mpg plummets. At a consistent 70-75, I barely scrape 50mpg and that's appalling for a car of this supposed economy.

Seboni 121,

I would also like to drive my Fabia hard (by that I mean drive at 70-75mph), but if I do, the mpg plummets. At a consistent 70-75, I barely scrape 50mpg and that's appalling for a car of this supposed economy.

Mike 70-75 on motorways to get 50mpg is not bad IMO, to get the high mpg 55/60 mph is where it's at 2/2-500 rpm anything over that she will swallow, the furby is not designed for mpg its a town car not a motorway cruser, the Octavia would be much better, can't say a bad thing about the 1.6 crtdi engine but I've got rid of both mainly because of the crappy dealer in waunfawr north Wales , I've bought a golf and much more refined

Astra1,

Well, I'll have to see what the MD of Skoda says. Funny thing is, there appear to be very good cars (and there's plenty of evidence on here) and some very bad cars as well. However, Skoda seem blind to these cars and just deny everything. Both VW and SEAT also have reports of this as well, with someone telling me there are 1500 SEAT Ibiza's with the issue. Don't know if that's true or not, just something I found on a forum. Either way, I'm not happy at all with Skoda. Their customer service is abysmal and they just deny everything. I'm not talking about the dealership here, but Skoda central. The call centre is incredibly condascending and does absolutely nothing.

At this rate, I'm not buying another Skoda either. It seems you either get a good one and love it, or a bad one and hate it. Nothing in between.

I know there are some on here who laud the merits of the engine, but it seems quality control is very poor. Either that, or there's a funadamental issue with the engines.

I Definitely got one of the bad cars, I also believe there is a problem with certain versions of this engine. Further to my earlier post when my car had spent 2 weeks with the dealer I have not noticed the judder since but have noticed 4 regens of the DPF when the idle speed sits steady at 1000 RPM (750 RPM when not regening) the fuel economy seems to have improved by around 5 MPG. Whatever they did to it seems to have improved it, but for me this has all come too late, the enjoyment of driving it has been overtaken by constantly waiting for the judder to happen at every junction or set of traffic lights, and the obsession with fuel economy. This coupled with the dismissive attitude from customer services has led to me trading in for another make. Overall I have been very disappointed with my Skoda experience.

Hello Delta925,

My car seems to have only two RPMs. Somewhere around 750 when stationary (and warm) and around 1000 when either rolling or regening. Haven't noticed any real difference between these. When stationary and regening, the RPM is about 1000, but the needle is noticably twitchy in tune with the engine shaking and almost stalling. In other words, when the needle can be seen to twitch down, the car almost stalls and then revs up a little as if the engine management system realises and gives it a few more revs.

My fuel economy definitely goes down after a regen, not during. This lasts for a while and then it goes back up again. I also notice the car is more responsive and requires less throttle at this time. Just before a regen, it feels more sluggish and needs more throttle. In fact, the car feels different to drive at different times and I haven't been able to establish a reason. It doesn't seem to matter what the temperature, humidity etc.etc. is. There doesn't appear to be a pattern.

If you have a look on the net, you will see that Skoda are well aware of this issue and it is widely reported by other people. By this, I mean the shuddering at various times. In fact, when my heater fan was repaired (18 months old and blower resistors failed), I mentioned this in the dealership and one of them actually said it was a well known issue with CR engines, especially the 1.6!!

Hello Mike,

I guessed this had been checked but I just wondered if your tickover was still around 800rpm rather than 1000 when an active regen was occurring.

If you only have a tickover of 750-800rpm when stationary and 1000rpm when rolling and regen occuring that is different to me as when rolling mine is normally just under 900rpm.

The only times other than a regen I have had about 1000rpm was in the cold weather. My guess is this is programmed to speed up the warm up and/or increase the alternator output.

The big difference is my tickover is always smooth, I have never had the shuddering you describe.

If I was the technician investigating your problem, unless already done, my first step would be to try replacing the speed pickup.

As to fuel consumption yes I too get good mpg when the regen is occuring, it is after it drops at least 12%.

I can't say I've noticed much difference in responsiveness and throttle between the lower and higher consumption but maybe I would if more of my journeys were not commuting so keeping speed with other traffic.

Edited 12 March, 201214 yr by delta925

Mike 70-75 on motorways to get 50mpg is not bad IMO, to get the high mpg 55/60 mph is where it's at 2/2-500 rpm anything over that she will swallow, the furby is not designed for mpg its a town car not a motorway cruser, the Octavia would be much better, can't say a bad thing about the 1.6 crtdi engine but I've got rid of both mainly because of the crappy dealer in waunfawr north Wales , I've bought a golf and much more refined<br />

From my point of view, my Toyota Yaris which had slightly worse economy figures than the Fabia could achieve 60mpg with ease at these speeds. Surely, therefore, the Fabia should? Also, if the Fabia is a town car, it shouldn't be sold with a diesel engine as with DPFs, you simply can't use them in town because they never regen successfully. Any car sold with a diesel engine and a DPF is inherently designed for longer, higher speed journeys as otherwise the DPF will constantly have problems.

I do wonder if people are not being too kind on car manufacturers. Toyota claimed the same figures as Skoda (67mpg combined) and managed to achieve 60-61mpg, whilst Skoda claim 65mpg combined and manages to achieve 10mpg less, whilst driving exactly the same journey in exactly the same way!! The Skoda is supposed to be higher geared than the Toyota as well, so why?

Edited 21 March, 201214 yr by MikeHart

I Definitely got one of the bad cars, I also believe there is a problem with certain versions of this engine. Further to my earlier post when my car had spent 2 weeks with the dealer I have not noticed the judder since but have noticed 4 regens of the DPF when the idle speed sits steady at 1000 RPM (750 RPM when not regening) the fuel economy seems to have improved by around 5 MPG. Whatever they did to it seems to have improved it, but for me this has all come too late, the enjoyment of driving it has been overtaken by constantly waiting for the judder to happen at every junction or set of traffic lights, and the obsession with fuel economy. This coupled with the dismissive attitude from customer services has led to me trading in for another make. Overall I have been very disappointed with my Skoda experience.

Well, I've written and sent an email to the MD of Skoda and will await the outcome. I also found out today that they're still running a 4 year change cycle on the timing belt for these cars. This is far too short. My wifes Ford Galaxy has a 10 year change cycle because they are using Continental lifetime belts which are actually supposed to last the lifetime of the car. However, Ford are playing safe and asking for a change at 10 years. 4 years for a timing belt is stupidly short these days. I've been told this is because of issues they had with the PD engine and its cambelts failing early. Don't know if that's true, but I can only hope experience shows them 4 years is too early and they can extend the interval. Won't hold my breath though..........................

Hello Mike,

I guessed this had been checked but I just wondered if your tickover was still around 800rpm rather than 1000 when an active regen was occurring.

If you only have a tickover of 750-800rpm when stationary and 1000rpm when rolling and regen occuring that is different to me as when rolling mine is normally just under 900rpm.

The only times other than a regen I have had about 1000rpm was in the cold weather. My guess is this is programmed to speed up the warm up and/or increase the alternator output.

The big difference is my tickover is always smooth, I have never had the shuddering you describe.

If I was the technician investigating your problem, unless already done, my first step would be to try replacing the speed pickup.

As to fuel consumption yes I too get good mpg when the regen is occuring, it is after it drops at least 12%.

I can't say I've noticed much difference in responsiveness and throttle between the lower and higher consumption but maybe I would if more of my journeys were not commuting so keeping speed with other traffic.

Since my car had the fan resistor replaced under warranty and they 'upgraded' the software at the same time, I can now see 3 different rpms. There's about 750 when stationary and not regening. There's 900 when rolling and no regen and 1000 when stationary and regening. However, the shaking still occurs and the car even shakes when stationary and not regening sometimes. This appears to be a short term issue when the car is first used after getting cold. Still not good though. Also, when the revs drop from 900 to 750, the engine almost always gives a little shake. Only temporary till it stabilises at the lower rpm, but very noticable.

I've sent an email to the MD of Skoda UK and am getting well and truly fed up with it. Not sure how much I'd loose on a trade in, but very inclined to look and see. Reviews seem to suggest a Ford Fiesta eco model is one of the best available in the class today and they do seem to get good reviews from customers.

I've now had my 1.6 CR 105 for a year now and completed just over 20K , mostly a 50 mile daily commute in mixed traffic. I've experienced the regen. shakes etc and accept it's just normal for the engine. Nothing seems the affect it, although I've noticed it occurs more frequently when driven very gently. The car is great (apart from the weak paint) and I average about 55 mpg. If it wasn't for the significant city element of the commute the average would be easily over 60 mpg.

Hello Mike, I've read your latest posts with interest. Sorry to hear you are still not happy. VAG does seem to have tried to refine the ecu software somewhat on some cars and I gather they have pushed one of the updates out to all the earlier 1.6cr engines as a precaution against too many regens. But, and I know you don't believe this, all the evidence suggests this problem is a driver issue and not a car issue par se! Or the owner has unrealistic expectations of how good the mpg should be for the use the car is put to in the topograhy it is used in. These statements do not rule out the fact one or two cars may have an issue (that's always possible), but VAG's own research on this engine and many others shows this to be the case and is backed up by the way the unhappy posters (most of them in fact) later post back to say all is well. My own research, such as it was shows this to be the case too when I followed 13 owners of this engine in Skoda and VW cars for some 10 months (it was meant to last just 6 but proved interesting to my own diesel engine project so linguered on a bit) who were adamant there cars were rubbish and were in some cases getting high 40's to the gallon when new. Their cars has been checked and shown that nothing was wrong. This included my sisters car incidentally. When some of the dealers suggested it was the driving style and they needed to learn a slightly different technique, as modern diesels capable of very high mpg's couldn't be driven like engines of old, they were outraged.

So, I actually went out to check a couple of the cars in my survey Mike. These individuals lived not too far from me and I was able to reach them easily. The cars checked out beautifully. Nothing I could find wrong. We then went for a drive with me as passenger. It quickly became obvious to me why the cars were doing so badly on fuel. The drivers were going very very light on the throttle all the time (this soots up the dpf and the cat, and doesn't help the injectors and valves either). On top of that they were not giving the engine any real work to do but staying in very high gears at low revs. In fact, many overused 5th gear which is really an overdrive, and not needed in many situations, but people are fixated in reaching 5th gear all the time believing it will give good economy. It doesn't, depending on the situation 4th can be much much better and deliver much high mpg's. As Seboni says earlier in your thread, 2000rpm plus gives good economy, but 1600 doesn't in high gears. The engine doesn't get hot enough to burn stuff clean if you stay at those low revs all the time without giving it some real work to do, and I don't mean just cruising at 70, that's not good either if you do it all the time. The actual speed you do is irrelavent if you don't give the engine some work to do to keep it nice and clean with nice big throttle openings and high revs for sustained periods. This engine is shorter stroke than most diesels and loves to rev. It then gives good economy. It took some time but with advice from me and one or two others on this site, I can tell you all the individuals in my survey modified their driving style and all of them without exception now get brilliant economy and all are happy. Some have posted on this site. I gather this is the case for many of the early posters on this subject too.

Now, clearly I don't know what your driving style is like, so I may be completely wrong, but from reading your posts over time, you are saying the very same things my survey participants were saying about your car symptoms and fuel economy. Since Skoda cannot find anything wrong with your car it suggests you may fall into the same catorgory. Please don't think I'm having a go at you, I'm not. If you want to solve this you have to look hard at all aspects of this. It took some time for me to convince some in my survey (all experienced drivers of some years) that driving style was the thing that mattered most. But they all got there in the end. If there was something wrong with your car Skoda would have found it, believe me. Should VAG issue better/clearer driving instructions for these engines. Maybe! Keep posting Mike as your case is an interesting one. Thanks...good luck.

or as Steve Jobs said - "You're holding it wrong!"

Edited 18 April, 201214 yr by xman

If it makes any difference to you, I've been having a long conversation with Estateman about this very thing, and I have the Seat Leon Ecomotive (with longer gearing) for better fuel economy. It should also be worth noting that mine is a 105bhp engine, not 90bhp (not sure how much of a difference that makes to fuel economy/revs)

I certainly don't need 5th gear until I reach 60mph, as when I change into 5th at this speed it's about 1600RPM.

The only thing I would disagree with is that my car is much more efficient between 1500-1700RPM than around 2000RPM, but that may be due to the fact I only have 5,300 miles on it, and it may get more efficient at the higher revs as the engine loosens up.

From estate man, and a couple of other people around tdiclub.com forums, I've come to the conclusion just to drive the car like normal up until about 10k, when the engine is run in, then start driving more economically, giving it a good blast once a week to clear the DPF. Even driving at 70mph/2000RPM for long sustained periods on the motorway hasn't helped with DPF regens, as mine was sit idling at 950RPM the other day, when it usually idles at 650RPM, I could only assume this was because of a REGEN.

The way I will drive the car until 10k miles, is by changing gear at around 2,400/2,500RPM (which drops me at around 1,500RPM in the new gear) with doing the odd journey not shifting until 3000RPM, and 3,500RPM (to help seat the Turbo rings). Hopefully this will help in the long run.

When I reach 10k miles, I'll still be switching gear around the 2,400rpm mark, but will be doing 60mph/1600rpm on motorway runs, giving it a 15-30 minute blast at 70mph each week (I do a lot of driving for work, so basically, on the way home I'll be doing 70mph every day, much more than 30 minutes a week, because I'd prefer get home quicker than save fuel).

Estate Man/Anyone else, if you disagree with my figures then let me know, as I'm looking to improve the way I drive diesels (the fact I have never driven a diesel and have only owned one petrol car with 13k on it when I bought it, probably isn't helping!)

Edited 18 April, 201214 yr by xreyuk

or as Steve Jobs said - "You're holding it wrong!"

You're not wrong!! Nice one...

Xreyuk, yes...according to some, you will find the car becomes a little less sensitive to how it's driven as you put some serious miles on the clock. We don't have anyone with an ecomotice SEAT Leon on this site as far as I'm aware, apart from yourself that it. So your experiences may differ slightly with your car being a bit heavier and slightly bigger that the Fabia. But essentially I guess the differences won't be too great.

For those of you interested, and I'm sure he wont' mind me mentioning it, Xreyuk has been experimenting with his driving style and has already gained some mpg improvement. His car is still young of course but he is going to keep us informed of how he is getting on. This could prove useful for us Fabia owners too. Thanks Xreyuk...stay in touch.

You're not wrong!! Nice one...

Hi Estate man,

Interesting but can I ask, would this also apply to a petrol car?

Recently bought the 1.4 16v MPI SE... the 25% off one

Did so in the knowledge that economy would not be fantastic.... however with about 600mls on the clock (so very early to say anything) but I am noticing that when I rev it a little (to about 3 - 4000rpm) under acceleration it gives just as good if not better economy that feathering the throttle (whether a warm or cold engine).

No complaints as I get anywhere between 35 to just over 45mpg mainly dependent upon length of journey & traffic conditions.

Thanks for your thoughts

Stef

Hi Stef, nice choice. Good engine and used throughout the VAG range. It's capable of pretty good fuel economy once run in with a few thousand miles on the clock. The main thing is to follow the running in instructions and not baby it too much. If you do that, the fuel and oil useage will be minimal. Giving any engine, petrol or diesel a good blast now and again is a good idea as too much economy driving isn't good for the engine, from the performance, or ironically the fuel economy point of view, since that type of driving dirties modern engines, CATs, injectors etc and reduces efficiency. With regard to the driving style for your engine, that's something you will need to experiment with over time. I've not owned that engine but know plenty of people with it. They get good economy and all use their cars differently, so it's a case of suck it and see. But as you are finding out, it's not always about driving slowly or keeping the revs down. It's more about finding the engine 'sweet' spots. These sweet spots change too as the engine beds in during that first few thousand miles so continue to experiment as a driver with your car. You'll learn loads about it and hopefully have some fun too. Keep posting Stef to let us all know how you are getting on. You can start your own thread on 1.4 petrol economy or something like that if you want.

Hi Stef, nice choice. Good engine and used throughout the VAG range. It's capable of pretty good fuel economy once run in with a few thousand miles on the clock.

Hi,

Thanks, interesting but good to hear as I had seen a few comments stating that economy was poor but I'll give it a little time, it will be a low mileage car and then might start a thread. Skoda appeared to have sold a lot of these "end of season sale" models & well for just under £9k for a brand new motor it sounded like a good offer! No regrets so far & knowing me, it should get a good workout every now & again but I will treat it a little more kindly than my company cars! (that's the main reason for the post.... been driving diesel cars for the past 10 years & it seems odd to rev the motor even to 4000rpm. gotta change the mind set again!

Thanks & sorry to hijack the post with a petrol blog...

Stef

Hi Estate Man,

From previous discussions, I guess what you say about keeping the revs up around 2000+ applies equally to the 1.2TDi Greenline engine. Oder?

It's certainly a different driving style than I used in my Citroen C3 1.4HDi, which got me much better than the official combined fuel consumption (and much better than my Greenline does at the moment). But then again, the garage did have to clear out the valves, which got sooted up after 240,000km of driving "like an old lady"...!

Tim

Edited 19 April, 201214 yr by Igloo Vindaloo

Hi Estate Man,

From previous discussions, I guess what you say about keeping the revs up around 2000+ applies equally to the 1.2TDi Greenline engine. Oder?

It's certainly a different driving style than I used in my Citroen C3 1.4HDi, which got me much better than the official combined fuel consumption (and much better than my Greenline does at the moment). But then again, the garage did have to clear out the valves, which got sooted up after 240,000km of driving "like an old lady"...!

Tim

I think it depends on the car, mine is definitely more efficient around the 1500-1700rpm range.