Just want to add some info on an ongoing situation re Skoda fuel consumption. We splashed out on an Octavia 2.0TDiCR estate DSG (L&K spec) last July. The car was registered in Nov 2010 and had done 9000 miles, owned previously by a ‘senior manager’ at Skoda UK, said the dealer. It’s now done over 16,000 miles and the very best mpg I can get is 45mpg, at a steady 70mph on the motorway, over a regular 130mile run that I do, with no air con on. I have complained about this to the dealer as the official Skoda extra urban figure is 61mpg. The dealer has had the car back twice - the last time for 8 days - checked everything and it is in order. And they have driven the car to check it too, only to get the same 45mpg over along run! So, if nothing is wrong with car, and 'driving styles' have been largely eliminated by a steady 70mpg on the motorway in good weather conditions, by two different drivers, where does this leave me? I can accept that 61mpg is a theoretical figure obtained on the rolling road test, but 45mpg is so low by comparison it seems like misrepresentation to me. This is our first Skoda, and our first diesel, and it leaves us very unhappy.

First thing I would do is use a DPF friendly fuel system/injector cleaner as you don't know how the car has been used in the past. Secondly, if it is your first diesel, make sure you don't go around driving it with a feather throttle (like you might in a petrol car) trying to get the best mpg all the time. This cause a build up of gum and soot in the engine actually decreasing the mpg's. Thirdly, don't change up through the gears too early, let the engine rev out a bit. Don't be afraid to really use the loud pedal hard at times for sustained periods to burn the engine and exhaust nice a clean. You cannot hurt a diesel engine. The 2.0litre engine is massive in diesel engine terms these days and has to be driven quite hard to maintain good mpg and performance. Also, bear in mind that a 2ltr diesel will take 20,000 miles to deliver best performance and mpg's, this is simply because they don't actually do any work like smaller diesels in normal driving and so they take that long to properly bed in. My brother in laws 2ltr Passat didn't better 45mpg until 22,000 miles and now he can easily get 60mpg (it now has 50,000 on the clock). Bear in mind the published mpg figures are not Skoda's, but the figures arrived at by an independent testing organisation employed by the EU. The cars used for the tests are selected at random from the production line.

Edit: You may actually find you can get better mpg by staying in fourth gear (or 5th if you have the 6 speed box) at 70 than using fifth gear as the engine is maybe turning too slowly at 70 in fifth. You may need to find the engines sweet spot for best mpg's. Keeping the revs low is not always the best way of getting good mpg. Winter diesel and colder temps affect it quite a bit too so you will prolly loose about 4-6mpg at least at this time of year.

Edited 2 February, 201214 yr by Estate Man

When I had my GL2 I did a cross country drive from Stoke to Leicester 75 miles at 50 on the dual carriage ways and motorway (scary) and used 5th as indicated. the indicated MPG was 75.

I then did the same trip at the same speeds and used 4th the indicated MPG was 76.

Finding the best gearing/sweet spot defiantly has an impact on MPG.

Something to think about is courtesy cars and hire cars have one thing in common and from day one most people just drive them including hammering the engine and this could have an impact on mpg.

I often thought I could tell the difference between the two engines the GL2 had, the first driven 75 miles back from dealer I bought the car from and the one that was put in by the dealer 6 miles down the road - if you are wondering why go 75 miles to get the car £1500 cheaper.

When I had my GL2 I did a cross country drive from Stoke to Leicester 75 miles at 50 on the dual carriage ways and motorway (scary) and used 5th as indicated. the indicated MPG was 75.

I then did the same trip at the same speeds and used 4th the indicated MPG was 76.

Finding the best gearing/sweet spot defiantly has an impact on MPG.

Something to think about is courtesy cars and hire cars have one thing in common and from day one most people just drive them including hammering the engine and this could have an impact on mpg.

I often thought I could tell the difference between the two engines the GL2 had, the first driven 75 miles back from dealer I bought the car from and the one that was put in by the dealer 6 miles down the road - if you are wondering why go 75 miles to get the car £1500 cheaper.

Mines not a CR, its a PD but I have the same gearing. Your absolutely right about lower gear being more efficient. I just dont use 5th below 60mph. Car is smoother and more efficient by a few mpg. 5th is used purely for motorways/dual carriageway. Took me ages to convince myself this was right.Just feels weird not using top gear cruising along but the figures dont lie. Unload the engine and keep the boost up does the trick it seems. Max torque on mine is 1800-2200. Using fourth below 60 this is where the revs sit so might explain it.

If I drive at 55 to work (I did it once when I had more patience) I got an indicated 78mpg. Ruddy boring though. My cars average is about 68mpg driving normally. Book says 69 combined so about right imo.

I wont be buying a CR Fabia in the future. I dont hold out much hope for modern diesels. Especially not as diesel is so ruddy expensive with an 8p gap to petrol.

I have the 105 CR but in a Roomster and agree the car seems to run happier with higher revs.

Yesterday I drove to the office and stayed in 4th at around 60mph for a long stretch of motorway and then a mix of A roads in 3rd / 4th. The car was indicating 60-65 mpg and felt more reponsive as the revs were sitting around 2000 rather than 1500.

On my return journey I went back to 5th at 60mph and the mpg dropped and the car felt groggy.

I used to own a passat 130 pd and that was a great car. The Roomster with the CR is fine but sometimes when the dpf kicks in the car runs rough and is very jerky on the throttle if it happens around town. I think I will get it checked out at the next service.

Makes you think about how good the pd engines are as they have been around for years. The more modern CR engine is great but I think it is held back slighty by needing the dpf to meet the newer emmission standards

Until they can make these diesels do the mpg within a sensible time of purchase (certainly no more than 5,000 miles), the claims are simply a con in my opinion.

Probably worth noting that the figures are the result of a standard test defined by the EU numpties. There is a milage limit for the cars being submitted for testing, IIRC something like 10k (km no doubt) on the clock. Obviously manufacturers tweak the cars to get the best possible result (careful gear ratio selection, I'd bet computer-controlled running-in of the engines that will be tested and so on), but basically the test is an EU test and not a manufacturer test.

In my experience MPG improves (at a steadily reducing rate) for at least the first 30k miles.

Anyway some interesting stuff here on running in. The manual just says to avoid full throttle, keep engine speed below 2/3rds of the red-line, and avoid long steady speed runs. Doesn't really sound like they're wanting high power operation to me?

Edited 4 February, 201214 yr by pearce_jj

Probably worth noting that the figures are the result of a standard test defined by the EU numpties. There is a milage limit for the cars being submitted for testing, IIRC something like 10k (km no doubt) on the clock. Obviously manufacturers tweak the cars to get the best possible result (careful gear ratio selection, I'd bet computer-controlled running-in of the engines that will be tested and so on), but basically the test is an EU test and not a manufacturer test.

In my experience MPG improves (at a steadily reducing rate) for at least the first 30k miles.

Anyway some interesting stuff here on running in. The manual just says to avoid full throttle, keep engine speed below 2/3rds of the red-line, and avoid long steady speed runs. Doesn't really sound like they're wanting high power operation to me?

My understanding is the car's are picked at random from production and the measurement is not of actual fuel usage but is calculated based on emission analysis and MPG extrapolation.

Several interesting posts on here.

Oil level rising is an interesting one. I checked my oil to see what was happening. I was pretty close to the minimum mark, so no oil rise for me!! I went into the dealership to get some more oil and was told by them that in general, VW diesels burn oil and was actually told I would use about 1.5 litres in the first 10,000 miles. I don't know what my oil level was to start with, but the difference between the full and minimum mark is about 1 litre I'm told, so 1.5 litres seems quite possible. I asked about the issue of rising oil and they said it had been seen, but wasn't that common. They agreed with the reason. I guess I'm not getting it as my regens are generally done at speed, so the effect should be less and my oil regularly gets to temperature.

My mpg is still around the 52 mark, although the latest tank looks like it could raise the bar a bit. Be interesting to see if it starts going up now. I've done just shy of 5,000 miles. Whilst it does appear to be getting a bit better, I'm still not very happy with it. I don't see why I should have to wait 5-10k miles at least to see decent fuel economy, especially when people are reporting good economy on this forum, pretty much from the start.

My DPF regen is terrible. It's been checked by the dealership and they say everything is OK, but I'm not so sure. I often get either a very hot, burning charcoal type smell in the car when it's occuring and on several occasions, have had a really strong burning rubber smell. Indeed, on one occasion, my car was reported as being alight to security at work. It is also really rough if the regen is still going at tickover. Stays at about 1000rpm, but can be anything from a minor shudder to shaking the whole car. It's really bad. Skoda don't seem interested in this, but at least one other person on here is reporting the same. Can't find any particular reason for it, although the rpm does vary a little, seeming to dip as it shudders, although the difference is minimal. I assume it's getting close to stalling and the management system is having to prevent it. Don't know why though, as it ticks over quite nicely at 750rpm when not regening.

As a newbie I would firstly like to say Hi there is a vast amount of good interesting info on here. The main reason I am here is described in the last paragraph of Mikes post above. I have had my Fabia Scout since Sept 2010 and have now covered over 20k and have had this rough tick over problem from day one, I have lost count of the times the dealer has had it in to investigate this problem only to be told nothing could be found, it seems they only started taking it seriously when they witnessed the problem first hand ( it is very intermittent and i am fairly certain it is not the DPF regen). Numerous tests have susposidly been carried out but no fault found yet at times the engine runs like a box of spanners with the rev counter bouncing all over the place at tickover.

Has anyone else had this problem and had it cured?

Also I find the MPG a bit hit and miss too, low 50's at present but in the early days could get over 60.

As a newbie I would firstly like to say Hi there is a vast amount of good interesting info on here. The main reason I am here is described in the last paragraph of Mikes post above. I have had my Fabia Scout since Sept 2010 and have now covered over 20k and have had this rough tick over problem from day one, I have lost count of the times the dealer has had it in to investigate this problem only to be told nothing could be found, it seems they only started taking it seriously when they witnessed the problem first hand ( it is very intermittent and i am fairly certain it is not the DPF regen). Numerous tests have susposidly been carried out but no fault found yet at times the engine runs like a box of spanners with the rev counter bouncing all over the place at tickover.

Has anyone else had this problem and had it cured?

Also I find the MPG a bit hit and miss too, low 50's at present but in the early days could get over 60.

Hi there Astra1, I too had experienced this problem from approximately the second week of ownership. We were going on holiday and hit the M25 at a very busy time, it took us about two hours to cover 5 miles. Whilst in the slow moving traffic I noticed the car sort of shuddering, there was a very hot smell coming from the car and it was very difficult to drive it smoothly. I obviously was very concerned and had visions of breaking down. However over the following couple of weeks it seemed ok so I didn't worry, it then happened a couple more times. The garage checked the car and all seemed ok. I started logging all the data from the on board computer to see if a pattern emerged, and it did. With normal commuting the shaking happened every 300-400 miles and would often occur over 3 seperate journeys. The car visited the garage and because I was able to predict when the shaking would occur they witnessed it. The technician came on a drive with me where he experienced it for himself - his words were "it shouldn't be doing that, I cannot believe there is no warning light coming on". They kept the car for a few days, the dealer sent the data to Skoda to check and as a result they advised the dealer to update the software which would help the car with DPF regens. I think Mike's car also received this update. The regens then occured every 300 miles almost without fail, you couldn't tell one was occuring if you were driving out of town, it was only noticeable really at idle as the car started shaking and the revs were higher than usual at tickover. I have mentioned in previous posts about the poor mpg, which would improve gradually until it had done a regen, after which it could drop by as much as 10mpg before gradually rising again. Skoda were very helpfull initially and the dealership did what they could. At first Skoda seemed very concerned but became less interested, I was told by them that the car was designed for 50+ mile trips, not for short runs, my normal commute was a 25 mile round trip - not what I would have considered a short run. They also told me that the mpg I was getting which was between 50 and 60 mpg was very good in comparison to others. The dealer was powerless to help as Skoda was telling them that the car was within "normal working parameters".

To cut a long story short, on my vehicle the shaking was caused by the DPF regen, I had modified my driving so that the revs where kept at 1800+ and ignored the useless gear shift indicator. I persisted in badgering Skoda about the car shaking which both myself and the wife found unacceptable and what I considered very poor fuel consumption - struggling to reach the urban figure even on a long run must be unacceptable to most people. Eventually they agreed to pay me some compensation and also provide me with a free service as I was returning to a non DPF equipped 1.9 Octavia.

All I can say is keep badgering Skoda, like all car manufacturers they rely on people giving up. The Fabia Estate we had was a really lovely car, the first new car I had ever had, shame it had to have a DPF.

Hi there Astra1, I too had experienced this problem from approximately the second week of ownership. We were going on holiday and hit the M25 at a very busy time, it took us about two hours to cover 5 miles. Whilst in the slow moving traffic I noticed the car sort of shuddering, there was a very hot smell coming from the car and it was very difficult to drive it smoothly. I obviously was very concerned and had visions of breaking down. However over the following couple of weeks it seemed ok so I didn't worry, it then happened a couple more times. The garage checked the car and all seemed ok. I started logging all the data from the on board computer to see if a pattern emerged, and it did. With normal commuting the shaking happened every 300-400 miles and would often occur over 3 seperate journeys. The car visited the garage and because I was able to predict when the shaking would occur they witnessed it. The technician came on a drive with me where he experienced it for himself - his words were "it shouldn't be doing that, I cannot believe there is no warning light coming on". They kept the car for a few days, the dealer sent the data to Skoda to check and as a result they advised the dealer to update the software which would help the car with DPF regens. I think Mike's car also received this update. The regens then occured every 300 miles almost without fail, you couldn't tell one was occuring if you were driving out of town, it was only noticeable really at idle as the car started shaking and the revs were higher than usual at tickover. I have mentioned in previous posts about the poor mpg, which would improve gradually until it had done a regen, after which it could drop by as much as 10mpg before gradually rising again. Skoda were very helpfull initially and the dealership did what they could. At first Skoda seemed very concerned but became less interested, I was told by them that the car was designed for 50+ mile trips, not for short runs, my normal commute was a 25 mile round trip - not what I would have considered a short run. They also told me that the mpg I was getting which was between 50 and 60 mpg was very good in comparison to others. The dealer was powerless to help as Skoda was telling them that the car was within "normal working parameters".

To cut a long story short, on my vehicle the shaking was caused by the DPF regen, I had modified my driving so that the revs where kept at 1800+ and ignored the useless gear shift indicator. I persisted in badgering Skoda about the car shaking which both myself and the wife found unacceptable and what I considered very poor fuel consumption - struggling to reach the urban figure even on a long run must be unacceptable to most people. Eventually they agreed to pay me some compensation and also provide me with a free service as I was returning to a non DPF equipped 1.9 Octavia.

All I can say is keep badgering Skoda, like all car manufacturers they rely on people giving up. The Fabia Estate we had was a really lovely car, the first new car I had ever had, shame it had to have a DPF.

Many thanks for your reply, what you have described is pretty much what I have experienced, I had ruled out the DPF regens causing the problem as it could happen over more than one journey or day I'm but now beginning to think otherwise. After the dealership witnessed the problem they suggested a potential flywheel problem but after carrying out a series of tests prescribed by Skoda they said they found no problem but had reset the computer to factory settings and to see if this made a difference. But 3 days later it was doing it again, currently the vehicle is with the dealer to allow them to use it over the next few days and see if this problem occurs with them, I will post the outcome. Like you I will find it unacceptable if I am told everything is within normal parameters and nothing is wrong. I've lost count the number of times it has been to the dealers with this problem.

For me this problem has happened whilst driving both on regular long (2 hours plus) and short journeys, my current daily commute is around 45 miles (round trip). On fuel consumption I always got 60mpg+ on the long journeys above 60mph, the daily commute is on small country roads where average speed is probably not above 40mph and I get just over 50mpg, after reading this thread this sounds about right. (these figures are taken from the trip computer)

Many thanks for your reply, what you have described is pretty much what I have experienced, I had ruled out the DPF regens causing the problem as it could happen over more than one journey or day I'm but now beginning to think otherwise. After the dealership witnessed the problem they suggested a potential flywheel problem but after carrying out a series of tests prescribed by Skoda they said they found no problem but had reset the computer to factory settings and to see if this made a difference. But 3 days later it was doing it again, currently the vehicle is with the dealer to allow them to use it over the next few days and see if this problem occurs with them, I will post the outcome. Like you I will find it unacceptable if I am told everything is within normal parameters and nothing is wrong. I've lost count the number of times it has been to the dealers with this problem.

For me this problem has happened whilst driving both on regular long (2 hours plus) and short journeys, my current daily commute is around 45 miles (round trip). On fuel consumption I always got 60mpg+ on the long journeys above 60mph, the daily commute is on small country roads where average speed is probably not above 40mph and I get just over 50mpg, after reading this thread this sounds about right. (these figures are taken from the trip computer)

If a regen does not complete it will start again the next time the car starts and a regen can last more then one journey/day. Another possibility is a faulty DPF sensor not registering the correct soot level.

...... I have mentioned in previous posts about the poor mpg, which would improve gradually until it had done a regen, after which it could drop by as much as 10mpg before gradually rising again......

I've had no issue with the regen itself. Except if a regen doesn't finish so continues on the next journey when after a mile for a couple of miles the car is jerky coming on/off throttle the only indication I have is the tickover being 200rpm higher plus the smell and fan running when the car is stopped.

During the cold weather the tickover has sometimes been 200rpm higher but I'm sure no regen is occurring / trying to occur so my guess is the ECU programmed to increase the alternator output in certain circumstances.

However like you and as I've posted before after a regen I too get a significant mpg drop for 100+ miles.

I discussed this with the dealer a while ago but they said as no faults were recorded on the ecu all was fine. Just last week I discussed this with customer services who said they had not got other reports of this scenario. The main indication of this trait is having a regular journey pattern and leaving the computer set to show the single journey mpg. A sticky EGR valve was suggested but the pattern seems too predictable.

I can only suggest other people set their display for single journey mpg and if they get the same pattern report it to Skoda HQ. If there are numerous reports hopefully the issue will be investigated.

Generally my mpg is down but taking the example of both my journeys to from work today when the air temperature was showing as 1deg, the oil reached a maximum of 72 deg this morning and 76 deg tonight when normally it reaches over 80 deg and at start up the gear selections is noticeably stiff together with a higher electrical load and winter diesel this is to be expected.

I assume the less efficient combustion during a longer warm up time is the link to my regen interval recently falling to under 250 miles rather than around 300miles.

I've had no issue with the regen itself. Except if a regen doesn't finish so continues on the next journey when after a mile for a couple of miles the car is jerky coming on/off throttle the only indication I have is the tickover being 200rpm higher plus the smell and fan running when the car is stopped.

During the cold weather the tickover has sometimes been 200rpm higher but I'm sure no regen is occurring / trying to occur so my guess is the ECU programmed to increase the alternator output in certain circumstances.

However like you and as I've posted before after a regen I too get a significant mpg drop for 100+ miles.

I discussed this with the dealer a while ago but they said as no faults were recorded on the ecu all was fine. Just last week I discussed this with customer services who said they had not got other reports of this scenario. The main indication of this trait is having a regular journey pattern and leaving the computer set to show the single journey mpg. A sticky EGR valve was suggested but the pattern seems too predictable.

I can only suggest other people set their display for single journey mpg and if they get the same pattern report it to Skoda HQ. If there are numerous reports hopefully the issue will be investigated.

Generally my mpg is down but taking the example of both my journeys to from work today when the air temperature was showing as 1deg, the oil reached a maximum of 72 deg this morning and 76 deg tonight when normally it reaches over 80 deg and at start up the gear selections is noticeably stiff together with a higher electrical load and winter diesel this is to be expected.

I assume the less efficient combustion during a longer warm up time is the link to my regen interval recently falling to under 250 miles rather than around 300miles.

Oh come on ! Just how you guys can continually analyse this very tedious subject is beyond me.

I suggest you all disconnect your MPG function on the computer, fill it up with diesel, keep your eyes where they should be (on the road) and try and enjoy your car.

Oh come on ! Just how you guys can continually analyse this very tedious subject is beyond me.

I suggest you all disconnect your MPG function on the computer, fill it up with diesel, keep your eyes where they should be (on the road) and try and enjoy your car.

If you bought your VRS based on it being able to do 0-60 in 7.3s and you only got 8.5s and you were told that is OK and then you said and some times it will only do 0-60 in 9s and then slowly gets better and the reply was there is nothing wrong, you would not be happy.

If you bought your VRS based on it being able to do 0-60 in 7.3s and you only got 8.5s and you were told that is OK and then you said and some times it will only do 0-60 in 9s and then slowly gets better and the reply was there is nothing wrong, you would not be happy.

If I went to Skoda and said that I was timing myself racing from standstill to 60mph repeatedly and couldn't reach the advertised figures, then I'm sure they (or the dealer) would think I was an absolute prat. Rightfully so.

You used a bad example.

Skoda say the VRS will do 47 MPG

I usually get 30 mpg when I keep my eyes on the road and drive the thing. I wouldn't complain to Skoda saying that I can't get near their advertised figures. Some of you diesel drivers are way to wrapped up on this economy malarky it's scary.

Of course, if there's a genuine fault then get it sorted, but I feel the biggest fault with this thread is the unrealistic expectations of the drivers themselves.

Every time Auto Express test a car, they hardly EVER get close to the 'claims' set by the manufacturers.

Considering the price of the diesel car, then the cost of the diesel, no wonder you want to get 60mpg. Should have bought a VRS. Good economy, pretty decent value new and most of all, very FUN to drive.

Why split hairs over a few MPG. Enjoy the car, we're a long time dead.

Tend to agree with Dempsek, but if it were a VRs or some other performance car like yours I'd agree with you Jonny. It comes back to that thing about why you buy the car in the first instance. Incidentally, I'm doing the rounds at the mo with a view to buying another diesel car to run alongside my existing diesel. What I'm finding is that I can actually buy a new diesel version of the latest model car for either less money than the petrol version with the same spec (just take a look at the Skoda models on their website at the moment, there are some actually cheaper than the petrol version at MRRSP). And the cost of diesel isn't really an issue due to the fact most drivers will get at least between 25-45% better fuel economy for just a small additional percenatage outlay on their fuel. That's one very good reason why us diesel heads buy them in the first place, and if fuel economy is important for whatever reason buying diesel is a no brainer. :yes:

Jonny...love the photo in the earlier post! Made me smile!

Edited due to bad spelling...again!!!

Edited 8 February, 201214 yr by Estate Man

Tend to agree with Dempsek, but if it were a VRs or some other performance car like yours I'd agree with you Jonny. It comes back to that thing about why you buy the car in the first instance. Incidentally, I'm doing the rounds at the mo with a view to buying another diesel car to run alongside my existing diesel. What I'm finding is that I can actually buy a new diesel version of the latest model car for either less money than the petrol version with the same spec (just take a look at the Skoda models on their website at the moment, there are some actually cheaper than the petrol version at MRRSP). And the cost of diesel isn't really an issue due to the fact most drivers will get at least between 25-45% better fuel economy for just a small additional percenatage outlay on their fuel. That's one very good reason why us diesel heads buy them in the first place, and if fuel economy is important for whatever reason buying diesel is a no brainer. :yes:

Jonny...love the photo in the earlier post! Made me smile!

Edited due to bad spelling...again!!!

Lol.

I've had 2 diesels in the past, including the great VRS Mk1. I too got the diesel economy bug and constantly challenged myself to better MPG.

In some respects, it's a good thing to periodically drive this way. It of course saves money, but more importantly it educates drivers to drive smoothly and within the law.

I just dont like the obsessive nature of some Eco diesel drivers. Like I mentioned, if you drive normally and get say, 50mpg, then happy days.

Trying to replicate manufacturers claims is a complete waste of time. Why get stressed over this ? Just live a little.

They are not "manufacturers claims". They are results from standardised tests.

The complaints to Skoda should be that the vehicles they put into the standard tests are not representative of your vehicle.

http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/cycles/ece_eudc.php

Complaints that the standard tests do not represent real world driving experience should be made to the Motor Vehicle Emission Group in Brussels.

http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/automotive/working-groups/index_en.htm

I'm not sure which you have more luck with!

They are not "manufacturers claims". They are results from standardised tests.

The complaints to Skoda should be that the vehicles they put into the standard tests are not representative of your vehicle.

http://www.dieselnet...es/ece_eudc.php

Complaints that the standard tests do not represent real world driving experience should be made to the Motor Vehicle Emission Group in Brussels.

http://ec.europa.eu/...ps/index_en.htm

I'm not sure which you have more luck with!

Lol ! Whatever !

Hello again. Well, interesting times once more. The car is achieving between55 and 58mpg at the moment, albeit not at 70mph. I've read the comments earlier about whether the test is at fault or my car isn't representative, but the issue I find most worrying is the DPF regeneration. If one is occuring and I need to slow down considerable because I hit traffic, the engine shakes something terrible and appears very close to stalling. Should this occur whilst in queued traffic, I'd venture it's even dangerous as the car can suddenly accelerate as the engine picks up a little trying to avoid stalling. At least, that's my interpretation, but speed control becomes 'interesting' with the engine revs fluctuating around and the shaking.

Skoda have investigated this, including their central people in Milton Keynes over an internet link and insist nothing is wrong. There are numerous postings all over the net of other people encountering this and someone who has replied to this thread has also encountered this. One person has even posted that the only 'fix' was to replace the DPF. A big and expensive job that I'm sure Skoda aren't about to do. Personally, I suspect there's something wrong with a sensor or similar, but Skoda are unable to do anything unless the computer sees a fault, and it doesn't.

I've already had a DPF temperature sensor fail (which was replaced under warrantly) and it looks like I'm about to pay another visit. All the interior fan settings with the exception of 4 don't work anymore. Looking online, it would appear the blower resistor (although I believe it actually contains several) has failed. Another job under warrantly. This is rapidly becoming the most unreliable car I've ever owned, with two repairs within 18 months of buying (23,000 miles) and I'm sure a latent problem with the engine somewhere.

I think it's about time the managing director of Skoda UK got a letter from me. I can explain all the issues and also complain about their appalling centralised 'customer services' as well. I've had to phone them several times and they are absolutely useless. Guess I'll see what happens and will post back.

Mike sorry to hear your havin issues, mine is brilliant crtdi 1.6 105bhp but I drive it hard and no dpf issues I run it on vpower diesel

I have the 1.6 tdi in my Roomster, its averaging low 50s all the time but I can get more... right up to low 60s. I never have an issue with the Dpf at all but the two earlier Fabia diesels I drove had your symptoms. My dealer says there have been several software updates for the Dpf.

I have a Octavia 1.6CR Greenline estate (Sep 2011) and has done about 9k miles. It's always done over 60mpg. I have never noticed a DPF regeneration since I have owned it. I get the best mpg at constant speeds (82mpg on a 60-65mph motorway run) over distances over 30miles. High speed kills consumption as does fast acceleration. It also doesn't like the cold weather.

I usually meet or exceed the published combined mpg for a car but it is proving a little difficult in this car.

I think all new cars are "tuned" to get the best mpg/CO2 out of the test which is a simulation done on rolling road.

Edited 1 March, 201214 yr by io1901

A newbie to this thread so sorry if I'm repeating things. I've had a 1.6 TDi 105 Elegance just over a month - just over 1,100 miles - average consumption measured by tankful is low 40s. Lots of short journeys I'm afraid. Comp seems to be indicating about right. On the motorway if indicates high 50s so maybe a litle optimistic. Compared to my 1.9TDi estate that was in mid 30K miles, it was achieving low 50's overall.

I'm not really worried about the mpg at this early stage.

I used to own a Mk1 vRS and in practice it did high 40s but on motorway comp indicated 76! LOL

A newbie to this thread so sorry if I'm repeating things. I've had a 1.6 TDi 105 Elegance just over a month - just over 1,100 miles - average consumption measured by tankful is low 40s. Lots of short journeys I'm afraid. Comp seems to be indicating about right. On the motorway if indicates high 50s so maybe a litle optimistic. Compared to my 1.9TDi estate that was in mid 30K miles, it was achieving low 50's overall.

I'm not really worried about the mpg at this early stage.

I used to own a Mk1 vRS and in practice it did high 40s but on motorway comp indicated 76! LOL

It will get better also you have to re- learn how to drive a diesel, these babies are long geared so ignore the gear selector