So the turbo seals have gone on my vrs.

Taking the oppertunity to upgrade.

I know its best to get the pd150 from the golf gt tdi or seat ibiza 160 etc.

Just wondering about stage 2 hybrids etc.

Can i run a hybrid pd150 turbo without mods? As in, do i need a intercooler etc for one and does it need remapping.

With a non pd150 turbo, is it a straight bolt on swap with no need to mod or remap?

Finally, what with the stage 2 etc. Whats a stage 1 hybrid turbo like

My aims for the car would be:

FMIC

REMAP

EXHAUST

Which turbo would be best in the long run but not require anything now?

Car is standard.

Thanking you all.

Craig :p

pd150's can got to around 190 on standard intercooler, obviously if you got a hybrid 150 on a overwise standard car you could prob run 200+ without maxxing the turbo out but may experience heat soak from the standard intercooler quite quickly, then you also have to worry about the clutch running that sort of power too, and the handling and stopping too, endless

Been given 1 reply so far for a price.

£895 for a hybrid 150.

They said they can rebuild my current 130 to the same hybrid spec for £595... obviosly that sounds better...

Will they both be able to handle the same power?

Hybrid 150 is good for 220-230bhp

Standard 150 about 190-195bhp

Standard 130 about 160-170bhp

Hybrid 130 about 195-200bhp

All the above turbo's will suffice on a standard pd130 map for the time being

You can run any of them turbos with standard setup, just add the `cooler and clutch later. With regards to the turbos, theres loads, i dont understand them all, but "hybrid turbo`s" can be rated anything from 210bhp to 260bhp. Obviously you`ll need other work to get those powers.

Matt

Hybrid 150 is good for 220-230bhp

Standard 150 about 190-195bhp

Standard 130 about 160-170bhp

Hybrid 130 about 195-200bhp

All the above turbo's will suffice on a standard pd130 map for the time being

Thanks.

Dont think i justify £900 on a turbo replacement atm!

Looks like its the hyrbid 130 or standard 150.

Anyone stronger than the other or better to have since their the same price.

Pass....

Given the option id try the 130 hybrid

Oo. Confusing stuff now haha. It will take a week to get the 130 back... might give the chance to clean all boost pipes etc.

Im going to go unit 18 for a custom map as im guessing i wont be able to use the generic vrs remaps now

Been given 1 reply so far for a price.

£895 for a hybrid 150.

They said they can rebuild my current 130 to the same hybrid spec for £595... obviosly that sounds better...

Will they both be able to handle the same power?

seems cheap, where is this from?

Edited 2 December, 201015 yr by Crocket

Pass....

Given the option id try the 130 hybrid

I might be, quite soon

Hybrid 150 is good for 220-230bhp

Hybrid 130 about 195-200bhp

Hybrid 130 is the same as a hybrid 150. (If both built to same spec).

The only thing that's different is the lettering on the plate on the turbo.

Hybrid 130 is the same as a hybrid 150. (If both built to same spec).

The only thing that's different is the lettering on the plate on the turbo.

Is what i though, in the email it was like

"We can also take you pd130 and hybrid it to the same spec"

Sounds like that may be the option then!

Thanks you very much

With a standard car, standard map etc but with the 130 hybrid, would i see any more power from standard?

Is what i though, in the email it was like

"We can also take you pd130 and hybrid it to the same spec"

Sounds like that may be the option then!

Thanks you very much

With a standard car, standard map etc but with the 130 hybrid, would i see any more power from standard?

Nope, the car needs to be told that the upgrades are on, which is in basic terms what a remap does.

Matt

Sounds good.

Will see how everything goes and hopefully it runs alright with new fuel filter etc.

Then a week turboless :'(

But a nice surprise when mapping

Craig I wanted to know the same thing . . . So you can bolt a pd150 turbo straight on a standard fabia vrs . . .

But it will run as a standard vrs yep? So pushing 130bhp 220ft. I am not sure how true this sounds as I thought the ecuwould be telling the turbo the requirements for boost etc for the pd130 turbo.

And I didn't think a pd150 standard would only be able to get to 190bhp, I thought it was 220bhp?

And I didn't think a pd150 standard would only be able to get to 190bhp, I thought it was 220bhp?

Nope, a standard PD150 Turbo will only push to 190 (ish), if you're after the 220, you'll have to go stage 2 Hybrid PD150 (with supporting mods)

Edited 2 December, 201015 yr by LittleJohnny

Is there a stage 1 hybrid? or is stage 1 non hybrid?

Is there a stage 1 hybrid?

Yes,

It goes -

PD150 - standard, then stage 1 and 2

This is confusing stuff.

So...

If i send them my pd130 for them to hybrid.

It will only be stage one im guessing for £595.

This will be good for 200bhp ish.

Where as for a pd150 non hybrided (same price), it would only be able to take about 190...?

seems correct . . .

But i think if i was gunna hybrid i would probably do the pd150 turbo as the pd130 turbo is a very weak turbo. I am no turbo expert but i have been told this by a very good mechanic who is also a good friend of mine.

And i think if it was the cheaper option but you couldstill get the same power then people would opt to hybrid the pd130 turbo yes?

IM(not very experienced, but 'logical')O i would just get a standard pd150 turbo and Hybrid it when you have the cash. Becuase you are gunna need clutch FMIC decat(i think) before you can go above big torque and power anyway. And even then it would be a good idea to have brakes, suspenison to match.

seems correct . . .

But i think if i was gunna hybrid i would probably do the pd150 turbo as the pd130 turbo is a very weak turbo. I am no turbo expert but i have been told this by a very good mechanic who is also a good friend of mine.

And i think if it was the cheaper option but you couldstill get the same power then people would opt to hybrid the pd130 turbo yes?

IM(not very experienced, but 'logical')O i would just get a standard pd150 turbo and Hybrid it when you have the cash. Becuase you are gunna need clutch FMIC decat(i think) before you can go above big torque and power anyway. And even then it would be a good idea to have brakes, suspenison to match.

The standard KKK unit isnt great, however, at least when my mate had his hybrid, it had uprated internals too. Standard 150 will map too 190ish as stated, my mates hybrid was rated to 210bhp. I would, if i could afford it, get a hybrid 150 from the off, and get it on there. Then as and when get the other bits on and map it. Also, the standard exhaust including cat is good for 220bhp+

Matt

its either a standard 150 or hybridded 130...

Its just that if i get 150 now, and hybrid it later... it will cost another 500 ontop...

Choices!

Depends how far you`d like to go then i guess. If you`ll be happy at 200ish bhp, then hybrid 130 will be ok. However, if youd rather go further, better off with the 150 id think

Matt

Very true! I still am abit confused about how a pd150 will run on a pd130 engine with an ecu suited for a pd130 turbo . . I would love to think it's as simple as that as I'll buy a pd150 at Christmas ready incase my turbo goes/get it hybrid'd when I have the cash. Matt is right. May aswell go the whole hog and get the hybrid 150 (if funds allow) as you will be set from there! But still filter in the costs of all the other bits. Mate I have no idea what I would do. As to get the power from the hybrid will cost a LOT.

I am confused for you. As you can probably tell. It would be more worth while spending the extra few hundred quid getting the pd150 hybrid as you will get alot more power. That is considering the price of everything else.

:(

Your guess is good as mine haha

Gotta see about my injectors before anything happens!

I cant see myself spending £900 on a turbo atm though.

Will more than likely get a standard pd150 with a remap and hope to see 175 ish SAFELY!

then later on next year after insurance etc. Start to build up for FMIC and stage 2 and hybrid map

Plans plans plans

EDIT:

if im totally honest. I cant see myself going past remap for atleast a year or so.

the upgraded turbo is simply because i need to replace and might aswell spend a few more bob now.

Edited 2 December, 201015 yr by Craig Lovelock