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my new baby sitting on eibachs

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hello here are a few pics of my car with the JKM eibach springs 30mm front 20mm rear.

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Very nice. Stance is much better. Liking the white and black. I'm tempted to get mine like that.<br>

Suttle lowering and that black roof make for a cracking motor! emoticon-0148-yes.gif

Nice how does she ride?

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Nice how does she ride?

realy realy nice had to be done :D

looks nice that nice car :thumbup:

Car and Springs/Stance look very nice.

Same wheels as I have ordered - good choice :rofl:

If they are anything like my Eibachs - avoid ANY potholes or anything like that, they make the ride very crashy. Other than that they ride lovely, much less body roll!

If they are anything like my Eibachs - avoid ANY potholes or anything like that, they make the ride very crashy. Other than that they ride lovely, much less body roll!

do u think that's because u r rolling on low profile tyres because some say the eibacj don't affect ride quality much

nope, using standard profile 205/40/17 tyres on vRS alloys. Our Superb is exactly the same on its Eibachs on bigger, wider wheels. Not quite as bad but still a bit crashy over slightly rough roads.

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she rides realy good even over pot holes not crashy ,were i live the roads are realy bad my old fab vrs had eibachs on that was a hard ride this is in a different league what ever they have done they have got it right with these springs :thumbup:

will your standard damper wear out much quicker with lowered springs? will u get inner tyre wear quicker if u haven't adjusted the camber/geomatry

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will your standard damper wear out much quicker with lowered springs? will u get inner tyre wear quicker if u haven't adjusted the camber/geomatry

maybe and yes.

If you lower your car whilst retaining the standard dampers you shorten the damper travel of them. This can be detrimental to the handling especially on a bumpy road, as they were specifically designed to damp the springs with the original vehicle height.

Once lowered the stock dampers are always compressed about 20-30mm(dependant on the lowering distance). there were quite a few guys on the octyII sub forum and mk5gti forum who have found that the dampers have worn out after a while once being lowered with lowering springs. Whether that was a direct result of the lowering springs is open for debate i guess.

I for one will be fitting the lowering springs, and im 100% expecting the damping to be effected, but the improvement in body roll i think will cancel out and loss in damping. That said as soon as uprated dampers are available for the vRS they will be going on. Having a car which can handle bumpy roads without becoming jittery is important to me.

As for tyre wear increasing, if you dont sort your geometry out, its very likely you will get uneven or accelerated tyre wear. reason being, as the suspension is either compressed or released the wheels will toe in and out. So if you lower the car you compress it, which will adjust the toe away from the stock settings which could very well cause uneven tyre wear.

Also when you lower the car you will also gain some additional negative camber(always good) but IMO would be pretty negligable. My octavia with a 30+mm drop on coilovers only gained an additional 0.3o negative camber which wouldnt be enough to cause any issues at all. Not sure if the front camber is adjustable on the fabia, it was fixed on the octavia etc

FWIW bear in mind that as soon as you lower a car, the manufacturers quoted/specified geometry settings are no longer optimum. this is where CHASSIS/GEOMETRY SPECIALISTS(so not including STS/kwik fit etc) like wheels in motion, or centergravity amongst others come into their own.

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Lovely looking motor and even nicer now that it's lowered. It looks even meaner at the front B)

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seems strange why 30mm front and 20mm rear?

looks like its running nose heavy and as if it needs that extra 10mm on the back....

reminds me of people who have cruddy french hatches from the 90's who lower the front but leave the back as they can't be jiggered with the torsion bar :|

Looks really good! :thumbup:

Same colour/roof/wheel combination I've ordered. How much was the suspension kit if you don't mind me asking?!

Also when you lower the car you will also gain some additional negative camber(always good) but IMO would be pretty negligable. My octavia with a 30+mm drop on coilovers only gained an additional 0.3o negative camber which wouldnt be enough to cause any issues at all. Not sure if the front camber is adjustable on the fabia, it was fixed on the octavia etc

i think i heard somewhere (probably on this forum) that the suspension is designed on the fabia mark 2 that lowering a certain amount won't affect the camber so inner tyre wear if not an issue if you don't lower too much?

maybe and yes.

If you lower your car whilst retaining the standard dampers you shorten the damper travel of them. This can be detrimental to the handling especially on a bumpy road, as they were specifically designed to damp the springs with the original vehicle height.

Once lowered the stock dampers are always compressed about 20-30mm(dependant on the lowering distance). there were quite a few guys on the octyII sub forum and mk5gti forum who have found that the dampers have worn out after a while once being lowered with lowering springs. Whether that was a direct result of the lowering springs is open for debate i guess.

I for one will be fitting the lowering springs, and im 100% expecting Having a car which can handle bumpy roads without becoming jittery is important to me.

the damping to be effected, but the improvement in body roll i think will cancel out and loss in damping. That said as soon as uprated dampers are available for the vRS they will be going on.

As for tyre wear increasing, if you dont sort your geometry out, its very likely you will get uneven or accelerated tyre wear. reason being, as the suspension is either compressed or released the wheels will toe in and out. So if you lower the car you compress it, which will adjust the toe away from the stock settings which could very well cause uneven tyre wear.

Also when you lower the car you will also gain some additional negative camber(always good) but IMO would be pretty negligable. My octavia with a 30+mm drop on coilovers only gained an additional 0.3o negative camber which wouldnt be enough to cause any issues at all. Not sure if the front camber is adjustable on the fabia, it was fixed on the octavia etc

FWIW bear in mind that as soon as you lower a car, the manufacturers quoted/specified geometry settings are no longer optimum. this is where CHASSIS/GEOMETRY SPECIALISTS(so not including STS/kwik fit etc) like wheels in motion, or centergravity amongst others come into their own.

How about some Bilstein B12's ?

How about some Bilstein B12's ?

are they available yet? If so id skip the eibachs and go straight to these, been in a few car swith these. comfier than stock, and handle so much better.

are they available yet? If so id skip the eibachs and go straight to these, been in a few car swith these. comfier than stock, and handle so much better.

do they work well with standard dampers?

i think i heard somewhere (probably on this forum) that the suspension is designed on the fabia mark 2 that lowering a certain amount won't affect the camber so inner tyre wear if not an issue if you don't lower too much?

As my post said

Also when you lower the car you will also gain some additional negative camber(always good) but IMO would be pretty negligable. My octavia with a 30+mm drop on coilovers only gained an additional 0.3o negative camber which wouldnt be enough to cause any issues at all.

What will cause extra wear is if the toe is out on the car front or rear. And if the geometry hasnt been checked you could be pretty sure the toe is no longer @ its optimum

do they work well with standard dampers?

The bilstein B12 is a full kit of fixed height springs and dampers. Excellent bit of kit.

you can however buy a set of eibach springs9or similar), and then use the Bilstein B7 or B9 dampers (cant remember which) this would then pretty much be the same as a B12 kit.

and a rear arb would make it even better? or not worth it if you've got a full suspension kit?

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and a rear arb would make it even better? or not worth it if you've got a full suspension kit?

IMO a rear ARB is even better option. Definitely required IMO. On all my last cars ive modded the ARBs have been the best mod ive done. less understeer, less roll, and zero change in ride quality. Also only a half hour job to fit so cheap labour and no geometry alignment required (unless you fit a front bar as well)

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