I have been a fan of the Yeti's design for a while but our present family car (honda jazz) wasn't due to be changed until now. So after much research and looking at

a few other options. My wife and I are off to test drive a 1.2 TSI at Henry's in Glasgow. We did go to our local Parks dealer to view one but they don't have a 1.2 for demo.

We are looking at a 1.2 TSI SE in Candy White with the Light Assistant as I've read about issues with low rear view mirror height (I'm 6ft 2"). I would have been happier to go with the

S spec for the most part (especially price) but no iPod/aux connection, no rear speakers and a poor review of the standard air conditioning have put me off the S. Although I would be

happy to go with the 16" alloys as by all accounts they provide a better ride quality.

I'm looking forward to Saturday and hope I'm not disappointed ; )

The Yeti is our first choice at the moment but the other cars we have considered are another Jazz, a Toyota Verso S, a MINI countryman and a VW Golf. Although can't see past a Yeti at the moment!

I have been a fan of the Yeti's design for a while but our present family car (honda jazz) wasn't due to be changed until now. So after much research and looking at

a few other options. My wife and I are off to test drive a 1.2 TSI at Henry's in Glasgow.

You will love it I'm sure. Remember to ask them how much the Heli-pad option is!

And if you want one pronto (vs the few month wait) look at the Skoda used car locator as all the dealers list their soon to be released demos on there.

Auto Express have been running a 1.2 TSi for a year, this is their final report on it.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/longtermtests/262936/skoda_yeti.html

James at Allams will be selling his demo 1.2tsi with a sunroof soon....

Mike

Buy new and wait. Decent discounts on line £1.8K for 1.2SE

Dealers expecting List price + for 6 month old car. No wonder still on forecourt

I've contacted James at Allam to ask for an exchange figure for the demo and a figure for a new car. So we'll see what he comes back with.

Also I didn't realize that you could get such a big discount from importers and checked out broadspeed which listed a price of £15,205. With all things

considered ie private sale price of my car against trade in we are only about £1000 away from that with our local dealer. So some room for improvement! :yes:

Thanks for the tip re the discount.

Regarding James car I like the spec but only thing I'm not sure about is the DSG. I do like the idea of it but the around town figures are about 10mpg less according

to the specs on Allams website.....is this a mis-print? Thought the DSG made acceleration/mpg better?

I've contacted James at Allam to ask for an exchange figure for the demo and a figure for a new car. So we'll see what he comes back with.

Also I didn't realize that you could get such a big discount from importers and checked out broadspeed which listed a price of £15,205. With all things

considered ie private sale price of my car against trade in we are only about £1000 away from that with our local dealer. So some room for improvement! :yes:

Thanks for the tip re the discount.

Regarding James car I like the spec but only thing I'm not sure about is the DSG. I do like the idea of it but the around town figures are about 10mpg less according

to the specs on Allams website.....is this a mis-print? Thought the DSG made acceleration/mpg better?

I can't vouch for the 7 speed DSG- it is a dry gearbox. My SM has the 6 speed wet DSG for vehicles with more torque, being a diesel owner.

But, I just love the gearbox. so smooth and now with around 180bhp on tap after the remap the whole package is awesome.

As for specs, check out the skoda brochure from their website - you can download the pdf version. best to find the 1.2 DSG owners and ask them, but I personally wound never buy a manual again.

Mike

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I have been a fan of the Yeti's design for a while but our present family car (honda jazz) wasn't due to be changed until now. So after much research and looking at

a few other options. My wife and I are off to test drive a 1.2 TSI at Henry's in Glasgow. We did go to our local Parks dealer to view one but they don't have a 1.2 for demo.

We are looking at a 1.2 TSI SE in Candy White with the Light Assistant as I've read about issues with low rear view mirror height (I'm 6ft 2"). I would have been happier to go with the

S spec for the most part (especially price) but no iPod/aux connection, no rear speakers and a poor review of the standard air conditioning have put me off the S. Although I would be

happy to go with the 16" alloys as by all accounts they provide a better ride quality.

I'm looking forward to Saturday and hope I'm not disappointed ; )

The Yeti is our first choice at the moment but the other cars we have considered are another Jazz, a Toyota Verso S, a MINI countryman and a VW Golf. Although can't see past a Yeti at the moment!

Hi,

The 1.2 feels adequate - for more info: http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/188612-how-is-the-12-tsi-engine/

I have had a look at the Mini Countryman, I find it quite cramp inside and the road views also seem quite poor, but the dash is funky and the was well put together apart from one of the dash trim: http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/180863-just-found-out-why-the-yeti-is-so-popular/

That is a wide range of car you are looking, city car, mini MPV, Cross-overs and traditional hatchback. I was given a Golf 1.6 TDI as a courtesy car today whilst mine is in to have the wheel arches done, I have driven the 1.4 before, that was really under power, and felt a little light, but the 1.6 TDI is actually not bad, ride is good (I think its better than the Yeti due to smaller wheel and lower suspension). The 1.6 TDI is brilliant though, first and second gear nothing amazing, but 3rd gear, it can pull from 28 mph to 65 mpg with no problem and it did it very briskly as well!

Buy new and wait. Decent discounts on line £1.8K for 1.2SE

Dealers expecting List price + for 6 month old car. No wonder still on forecourt

I was just about to post a link on a overlist price Yeti from ebay.When I clicked the link it brought up the link and my ebay details so thought best to delete the link.

Edited 3 February, 201115 yr by mike 111

Regarding James car I like the spec but only thing I'm not sure about is the DSG. I do like the idea of it but the around town figures are about 10mpg less according

to the specs on Allams website.....is this a mis-print? Thought the DSG made acceleration/mpg better?

It does ! See this thread and post for what I mean by saying that the DSG is more economical. http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/156147-12-tsi-real-mpg/page__view__findpost__p__2256564

According to the specs the DSG is only 0.2 seconds slower in the 0-62 mph sprint but that probably requires very quick and harsh gear changes from the driver of the manual version to accomplish that figure, perhaps even gearchanges in a way that you wouldn't like to threat your gear box. The DSG change to next gear in 8 ms (up) as standard ( down shift are considerably slower but probably faster than the average driver with the manual any way).

So, I would say that for the average driver in every day driving the DSG is both quicker and has a higher mpg than the manual.

I'm quite sure you would be very happy with the performance of the DSG unless you are a "stickbanger" (hope I didn't say anything dirty now )

/Stephan

Regarding James car I like the spec but only thing I'm not sure about is the DSG. I do like the idea of it but the around town figures are about 10mpg less according to the specs on Allams website.....is this a mis-print? Thought the DSG made acceleration/mpg better?

Earlier VW reports showed the DSG to be more economical than the manual in the Polo, and while Skoda have pulled back from that claim I think their urban figures are unduly pessimistic.

If a 1.2 is your choice then its worth trying a DSG. My 7 speed DSG is incredibly smooth, better than the 6 speed DSG I had in the Octavia. The mpg on mine (brim to brim, corrected for the smaller size of the winter tyres i've got fitted) is a little over 38 mpg. To put that into context it includes:

Local shopping trips up to 5 miles in Bristol (hills)

Two crossings of the Mendips Bridgwater to Bath (very hilly)

Two trips M5 Bridgwater - M4/M5 junction north of Bristol (gentle hills),

Several trips Bristol-Bath, 20 miles undulating route (hills at both ends).

Typical indicated mpg 20 mile trip 42, best indicated 52 mpg M5

And this is with one or two passengers plus luggage, spare wheel and some tools on board in a Yeti that's not done a 1000 miles yet and is not run-in. They say economy improves once its run in.

The DSG gearbox weighs more than the manual gearbox so the "standard" formula used to calculate urban consumption takes this into account. But the frequency with which the DSG changes gear to maintain efficiency in variable speed traffic is amazing, I wouldn't like to match it manually. That said I only know this because you see the figure changing on the display, and the revs change, not because you feel the change or hear it. The engine is very quiet.

I dare say there are those who reckon they could do a better job manually and I'm not going to argue with them, but if you want relaxing reasonably economical driving give the DSG a try. The only improvement I can see would be a 1.4 DSG if you do a lot of full load or high speed motorway running. But beware, a Yeti is not the most aerodynamic of vehicles and high speed running will cut the mpg, petrol or diesel.

Whatever you decide on I hope you enjoy it.

Sorry if that's a bit long.

Hi,

The 1.2 feels adequate - for more info: http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/188612-how-is-the-12-tsi-engine/

I have had a look at the Mini Countryman, I find it quite cramp inside and the road views also seem quite poor, but the dash is funky and the was well put together apart from one of the dash trim: http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/180863-just-found-out-why-the-yeti-is-so-popular/

That is a wide range of car you are looking, city car, mini MPV, Cross-overs and traditional hatchback. I was given a Golf 1.6 TDI as a courtesy car today whilst mine is in to have the wheel arches done, I have driven the 1.4 before, that was really under power, and felt a little light, but the 1.6 TDI is actually not bad, ride is good (I think its better than the Yeti due to smaller wheel and lower suspension). The 1.6 TDI is brilliant though, first and second gear nothing amazing, but 3rd gear, it can pull from 28 mph to 65 mpg with no problem and it did it very briskly as well!

I had a look at the Golf because I am a fan of the marque (own a low mileage mk2 gti) and VW were doing a special edition Twist model for about £14k . It had an excellent spec but only had the NA 1.4 that you mentioned. I test drove it as I was worried that the car would be underpowered. It was fine in town but when we hit a hill on a dual carriageway I had to drop to 4th gear and had my foot to the floor doing 65mph!

I've been in a top of the range Cooper S Countryman as my friend is the parts manager with a BMW dealership. I wasn't overly impressed but the wife and I want to take another wee look at it as the ONE is the

same price as the Yeti 1.2 TSI SE. We have previously owned a cooper and a cooper s about six years ago before we had our wee boy but it's still a bit of a long shot. The wife likes the Qashqai but I'm not a fan of it's bland design so that's not being considered.

We've now had to Jazz's and although they proved themselves to be supremely practical and versatile little cars, it's time for a change.

I'm pretty sure the Yeti will win the day!

I had a look at the Golf because I am a fan of the marque (own a low mileage mk2 gti) and VW were doing a special edition Twist model for about £14k . It had an excellent spec but only had the NA 1.4 that you mentioned. I test drove it as I was worried that the car would be underpowered. It was fine in town but when we hit a hill on a dual carriageway I had to drop to 4th gear and had my foot to the floor doing 65mph!

I've been in a top of the range Cooper S Countryman as my friend is the parts manager with a BMW dealership. I wasn't overly impressed but the wife and I want to take another wee look at it as the ONE is the

same price as the Yeti 1.2 TSI SE. We have previously owned a cooper and a cooper s about six years ago before we had our wee boy but it's still a bit of a long shot. The wife likes the Qashqai but I'm not a fan of it's bland design so that's not being considered.

We've now had to Jazz's and although they proved themselves to be supremely practical and versatile little cars, it's time for a change.

I'm pretty sure the Yeti will win the day!

I like the Mk2 GTI - 8v or 16v, bth are great to be honest. I was actually looking at a Twist for my brother, but I think the 1.4, as you said, is fine around town, but it is lethargic above 60 mph. The Twist is very well equipped for the price, but I think they might have sold out? I was looking at the VW website this morning and could not find the Twist anywhere.

I am not sure, but I think the ONE has a 90ps 1.6 engine? I am sure BMW would have looked closely at the gearbox to deliver the best the engine could.

Definitely widen your search, I had a look at the ASX the other day, not a bad car, but a little over price. Otherwise, Kia Sportage - which looks great, might be worth a look? It is slightly larger than the Yeti though.

Had a test drive in a 1.2TSI DSG Yeti SE when I dropped 'Pat' off at Allams in November. Having spent a year and 13,000 miles driving a 140 4x4 I was impressed with the performance of the baby Monster and the DSG worked very well; would quite happily recommend this set-up, oh and the Allams experience has so far been excellent, with regular updates on any progress with my protracted order

Regards,

TP

Earlier VW reports showed the DSG to be more economical than the manual in the Polo, and while Skoda have pulled back from that claim I think their urban figures are unduly pessimistic.

If a 1.2 is your choice then its worth trying a DSG. My 7 speed DSG is incredibly smooth, better than the 6 speed DSG I had in the Octavia. The mpg on mine (brim to brim, corrected for the smaller size of the winter tyres i've got fitted) is a little over 38 mpg. To put that into context it includes:

Local shopping trips up to 5 miles in Bristol (hills)

Two crossings of the Mendips Bridgwater to Bath (very hilly)

Two trips M5 Bridgwater - M4/M5 junction north of Bristol (gentle hills),

Several trips Bristol-Bath, 20 miles undulating route (hills at both ends).

Typical indicated mpg 20 mile trip 42, best indicated 52 mpg M5

And this is with one or two passengers plus luggage, spare wheel and some tools on board in a Yeti that's not done a 1000 miles yet and is not run-in. They say economy improves once its run in.

The DSG gearbox weighs more than the manual gearbox so the "standard" formula used to calculate urban consumption takes this into account. But the frequency with which the DSG changes gear to maintain efficiency in variable speed traffic is amazing, I wouldn't like to match it manually. That said I only know this because you see the figure changing on the display, and the revs change, not because you feel the change or hear it. The engine is very quiet.

I dare say there are those who reckon they could do a better job manually and I'm not going to argue with them, but if you want relaxing reasonably economical driving give the DSG a try. The only improvement I can see would be a 1.4 DSG if you do a lot of full load or high speed motorway running. But beware, a Yeti is not the most aerodynamic of vehicles and high speed running will cut the mpg, petrol or diesel.

Whatever you decide on I hope you enjoy it.

Sorry if that's a bit long.

Thanks for taking the time to provide that information. That has helped put my mind at rest and I'm definitely interested in trying the DSG with the 1.2. I am very impressed with those figures as our present car, the Honda Jazz would struggle to match them.

So am I right in saying that you can run the car in full auto but also have the option to change gear manually using paddles behind the steering wheel?

Thanks for taking the time to provide that information. That has helped put my mind at rest and I'm definitely interested in trying the DSG with the 1.2. I am very impressed with those figures as our present car, the Honda Jazz would struggle to match them.

So am I right in saying that you can run the car in full auto but also have the option to change gear manually using paddles behind the steering wheel?

Alas no paddles. Only the Superb has them. You just move the gearlever to the left from D and then there is a + and - there for manual control.

Alas no paddles. Only the Superb has them. You just move the gearlever to the left from D and then there is a + and - there for manual control.

Cheers, that has killed off any interest I had in a DSG! Which is a shame, but I would miss the involvement that paddles or a gearstick offer.

I like the Mk2 GTI - 8v or 16v, bth are great to be honest. I was actually looking at a Twist for my brother, but I think the 1.4, as you said, is fine around town, but it is lethargic above 60 mph. The Twist is very well equipped for the price, but I think they might have sold out? I was looking at the VW website this morning and could not find the Twist anywhere.

I am not sure, but I think the ONE has a 90ps 1.6 engine? I am sure BMW would have looked closely at the gearbox to deliver the best the engine could.

Definitely widen your search, I had a look at the ASX the other day, not a bad car, but a little over price. Otherwise, Kia Sportage - which looks great, might be worth a look? It is slightly larger than the Yeti though.

Gave me an excuse to show off my pride and joy! It will hopefully be keeping company with a Candy White Yeti in a few months time!

It's maybe once every three or four years I get the chance to do this so it's good to consider your options but deep down I probably knew that it was always going to be a Yeti. One of the reviews I read or watched said that the Yeti offers something that is very rare....it's a car that put's a smile on your face!

Alas no paddles. Only the Superb has them. You just move the gearlever to the left from D and then there is a + and - there for manual control.

Perhaps a little OT but ...

Is the 7-gear dry cluch DSG available with paddles in other models through out the VAG range?

I found that while driving my Yeti 1.2 DSG in manual mode (tiptronic) there is a 1s (or even more) delay from the stick input until the gear change actually happens. And it doesn't seem to matter if I go up or down in gear. I understand that if the DSG has prepared for what it thinks will be the next gear and you give an input for another gear it will take som time for the DSG to get that gear in position, but the delay seems always to be there. If it's as slow using paddles, it wouldn't be much fun to drive in manual mode I think.

Anyone else that can confirm this behaviour of the 7-gear DSG? Does the 6-gear DSG behave in the same way?

/Stephan

Perhaps a little OT but ...

Is the 7-gear dry cluch DSG available with paddles in other models through out the VAG range?

Yes - my Octavia 1.8TSI L&K (sold recently for a Yeti) had a 7 speed dry clutch DSG and I ordered the paddles as an extra. Very nice but rarely used.

Yes - my Octavia 1.8TSI L&K (sold recently for a Yeti) had a 7 speed dry clutch DSG and I ordered the paddles as an extra. Very nice but rarely used.

Did you experience the same delay between hitting the paddle and the actual gear change, that I am using the stick?

Did you experience the same delay between hitting the paddle and the actual gear change, that I am using the stick?

Not sure if this is relevant as I have the 6-spd DSG in my CR140 Yeti but I find the manual gearchange instantaneous with me flicking the gearlever.

Perhaps the 7-spd DSG reacts differently?

Yes - my Octavia 1.8TSI L&K (sold recently for a Yeti) had a 7 speed dry clutch DSG and I ordered the paddles as an extra. Very nice but rarely used.

My 1.4 TSi DSG Octavia Elegance has standard fit paddleshifts - used initially for the novelty value, the tiptronic shifts via paddles or stick hardly ever get used. The fully automated mode is so good, it renders the sequential change modes almost redundant.

I think I've used the manual side of my DSG perhaps twice in 4000 miles... I flick between D and S and that is about it. So as nice as paddles sound I don't think I'd bother to retro-fit. Had they come as standard fine and well.

My Dads ex demo Superb 170 DSG has the flappy paddles and having driven it a few time I've hardly used them. Tend to forget there there as the DSG does a good job without interference from the driver. Can be handy for overtaking but that's about it.

TP