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Highest power fabia vRS ?

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Guys I'm still new to the forum but I'm a big petrol head (lol. Never had a diesel before!)

I have see threads of cars with big turbos pushing 240bhp and over 350lbs or torque but has any one gone mental on a fabia on here? I'm mean huge turbo (garrett GT35/40 size or bigger )and opened up the motor to change pistons, rods etc or do the PD 130 motors have very strong internals from skoda?

I would love to see 400bhp + fabias but have not heard of any like that yet?

Any one have a car like that on here!

Thanks.

On here there is devnoutopia (jason) who is running around 270bhp at the moment, however its not a vrs, started out as a boggo PD100. Theres a few others running similar power. You get lots of bang for buck up to 220/230bhp then it starts getting quite expensive.

You could put more and more power in the car but essentially its bought as a daily drive, and used on the road, with it being quick, but cheap to run too. No one wants to drive round with a massive laggy turbo, using tonnes of fuel. Not only that, after a point, you`ll just struggle to get power down, even with LSD`s etc, its still only FWD

Matt

Edited by matt1chelski

I suppose, as long as the figures are true, Warick's vRS is the most powerful @ 270bhp. Mine is not a vRS - OK, it is essentially a built vRS, but my latest dyno was a true 275bhp but there is more to come and now I am looking into hybrid versions of my current stock turbo....

PS: Sometimes going big turbo can actually improve lag. :D Its all about how good the turbo is and how well it is mapped/set up.

ive just added some gunpowder crystals into my diesel and im now running 276 bhp...

Mine's running on Vpower diesel now, so at 357bhp. :p

theres a tdi lupo on you tube with a supposed 400bhp iirc...

looks quite quick but 400bhp looks b.s possibly :thumbup:

Edited by BigJase88

Money no object I'd drop a V10 TDI into the back of the Fabia ala the Renault Cilo V6, just to keep the derv theme. :rofl:

If you want big power I'd go down the 1.8T route instead, much cheaper to crack 300BHP than the TDI will work out for the same power, much more is possible and about 50kg lighter by my estimate too. Should be an easy swap as well.

Daily driver I'd only add some stronger head bolts, bigger injectors, bigger MAF/MAS and a more aggressive map than I'm running, that'd be what 250/260BHP?

But standard vrs injectors can run 1,000,000 bhp???

Guys I'm still new to the forum but I'm a big petrol head (lol. Never had a diesel before!)

I have see threads of cars with big turbos pushing 240bhp and over 350lbs or torque but has any one gone mental on a fabia on here? I'm mean huge turbo (garrett GT35/40 size or bigger )and opened up the motor to change pistons, rods etc or do the PD 130 motors have very strong internals from skoda?

I would love to see 400bhp + fabias but have not heard of any like that yet?

Any one have a car like that on here!

Thanks.

There was one guy over on TDICLUB who stuck "something huge" onto a TDI. I can't find the post thread now. :(

It was done as a "something whilst bored", made power but predictably, was very slow to spool had lag.

In the meantime, try this one : http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?p=2518233

J.

But standard vrs injectors can run 1,000,000 bhp???

Only with extra Tomato in the BLT. :thumbup:

When we getting a Briskoda 1/4 mile shoot out sorted? I'm dying to see what Jason's Mongol and Warwick's vRS can do, and I'm keen to get mine benchmarked at the same time.

I'd be up for a 1/4 mile event when my VRS is finished in a month or so.

Got the Brsikoa trck day booked for 9th April too. :thumbup:

with 195bhp i managed a 14.4s with 97mph terminal!

thats including reaction time, none of this only starts timing when you move off the line malarchy :thumbup:

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Thanks guys. 270bhp in little hatch with loads of torque must be fun. I know the cars are not really the type of cars people go mental on like supra's/skylines etc.

Any one have a link to a big turbo kit like the PD150 kit? Any idea's on price because jabbasport don't have a price on there website?

Turbo dynamics

Around 900quid for a stage 2 pd 150 hybrid good for 240bhp

Will require supporting mods

Breathing

Exhaust

Intercooler

Clutch

Remap

Not cheap

Its quick but the fabias are 1.3 tonne

Starting out with a bog standard fabia you`d need:

FMIC, Seat Sport around £500

Garrett Turbo, PD150 Hybrid £1000

Mapping £250-£350

Then to run 200bhp+ you`d need a uprated clutch helix is about £1000.

So roughly £2750-£2850 ish to get 220ish bhp. Starts getting expensive to get more power after this, think there is a rough price in the jabba section for their bigger kits. Obviously to go round corners or stop you`ll need brakes and suspension too :rofl:

Matt

Its quick but the fabias are 1.3 tonne

And most of it over the nose so its not the best handling car even when sorted. Its not easy to reduce the nose weight either from what I've seen, front crash bar (if you dare), air con removal, then put the battery, oil tank (after adding a dry sump) and the washer bottle in the boot would shift some of it to the back.

Junk the rear seats, carpets, spare wheel and all the sound proofing (meant to be quite a bit behind the dash) and I think you might get close to 1100kg, but roughly the same F/R weight distribution as standard from my back of a fag packet calculations.

Unit 18 do a brand new PD150 Hybrid 2 with remap fitted for £1500. I spent about in £480 on the SS FMIC and Forge pipes that I had fitted at the same time as my PF150.

312mm brakes are a cheap upgrade if if you time it for when the discs and pads need changing anyway. Suspension seems to be the hardest bit to get cheap and good quality.

My Fabia came with the exhaust, uprated clutch & fly wheel, bigger air filter already done. I'd suggest doing the same, already sorted car is going to be much cheaper and if you take your time you can find a good one.

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Thanks for the quick replys guys. If the pd150 kit is £1500 fitted and then the intake exhaust and clutch on top would take you to 2500-2700 ish then that's not too bad.

The clutch is expensive? Is the helix the only option for the fabia's is it multiple plate of carbon? That would explain the price!

Sorry for all the questions guys but if the oem pd130 turbo runs out of puff about 200bhp has any one had personal driving experience with a fabia at 200bhp and one at 230-240bhp? Could you justify the extra outlay for the 30-40bhp gain?

I've spent...

£1,100 on turbo

£650 on FMIC

£850 on clutch/SMF

Receipts for £700 exhaust

Little things like £80 for PD160 intake, R32 MAF, etc

Labour... Unit 18 is very cheap but it still adds up having everything fitted (with mapping)

Then I have a receipt for £550 for coilovers, spent £1,000 on brakes, £300 on polybushing, etc... It adds up quickly tbh

It depends how far you wanna go, you could bodge stuff and get the same power figure for under £2k I reckon but won't last very long

Thanks for the quick replys guys. If the pd150 kit is £1500 fitted and then the intake exhaust and clutch on top would take you to 2500-2700 ish then that's not too bad.

The clutch is expensive? Is the helix the only option for the fabia's is it multiple plate of carbon? That would explain the price!

Sorry for all the questions guys but if the oem pd130 turbo runs out of puff about 200bhp has any one had personal driving experience with a fabia at 200bhp and one at 230-240bhp? Could you justify the extra outlay for the 30-40bhp gain?

If can get down to me in Kent I'd happily take you out in mine, I dunno what mine is running yet but at a guess it's around 210-230bhp

If you're stopping at 200bhp you might as well just have a harsh remap to 185bhp or whatever, I personally think the MD376 is the best compromise stopping at 220-230bhp.

with 195bhp i managed a 14.4s with 97mph terminal!

thats including reaction time, none of this only starts timing when you move off the line malarchy :thumbup:

It only starts timing when you move off the line line though. You could have a 20 second reaction time and it would still be a 14.4 1/4 mile. ;)

I've done a 13.7 with poor launch technique, and I have the same traction issues as a "normal" 180-200bhp fabia. Mine only comes into its own once 3rd gear hooks up properly, and 4th, which is why my terminal speed is 105mph. :D

Clutch is just organic but you also req. The solid flywheel for the helix

Other option is sachs organic which uses oem dual mass flywheel

Id go for the helix every time tho

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Ok guys so 185bhp is just "harsh" remap? Lots of timing in the map and pushing the turbo oh it's efficiency range?

I'm just looking for the best option. A de-cat, some form of intake, and exhaust (do you need an exhaust or would the de-cat be enough to reduce back pressure) + a clutch. I'm not looking for a clutch that will stand up to drag racing just something that will hold up to full throttle while rolling.

I'm thinking 200bhp would've on the cards with a custom exhaust, intake and a decen map?

How do the remapped cars do for fuel? If it's just a few mpg worse then that's great as the fabia's fuel economy is bloody fantasic to start with! Lol.

Ok guys so 185bhp is just "harsh" remap? Lots of timing in the map and pushing the turbo oh it's efficiency range?

I'm just looking for the best option. A de-cat, some form of intake, and exhaust (do you need an exhaust or would the de-cat be enough to reduce back pressure) + a clutch. I'm not looking for a clutch that will stand up to drag racing just something that will hold up to full throttle while rolling.

I'm thinking 200bhp would've on the cards with a custom exhaust, intake and a decen map?

How do the remapped cars do for fuel? If it's just a few mpg worse then that's great as the fabia's fuel economy is bloody fantasic to start with! Lol.

revo map bigger pd intake and zorst...can still get over 50mpg if driving like a granny ont motorway B)

standard pd130 turbo will not push past a genuine 175-180bhp TOPS!

no chance of anywhere near 200bhp, a standard pd150 turbo will make around 190-195bhp

tbh mate doesnt sound as if you have much cash so my advice would be to keep it standard...

intercooler is required past oem power to be honest as i used to heat soak mine at a lowly 173bhp...

clutch will not last long past remapped power, for big power you need a decent clutch and fly, and by that i dont mean ebay's techniclutch lolz!

Edited by BigJase88

^^ I'd agree with all of that. You don't need to do anything with the exhaust, people have run 220bhp+ with a totally standard exhaust, including cat.

Matt

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