Like most people on here who don't have the RARB, it's difficult to read everyone rave about them and at least not entertain the idea of getting one.

Now, it seems the bar can introduce the occurrence of lift off over steer when absolutely hammering it and then lifting off for a bend.. or hitting a oil spill whilst cornering.

It's always been said that's it's progressive and much harder to achieve then people make it out to be.

Thing is.. My driving technique is braking whilst entering a bend and holding it on lightly before accelerating out.. Am I gonna spin off in a ball off flames?

It seem that braking into and around a bend is a sure fire way to get the over steer? Or is it really only a by product of lifting.. would the braking actually stop the over steer rather than encourage it?

Hhhhmmmmmmmmm.....Losts of books have been written on suspension...not a light subject. I run standard springs and Koni FSD dampers, Powerflex bushes and 195/50/15 tyres. I can get slight oversteer...inactual fact most of the time it is very neutral..and if I want I can exit a bend with a bit of correction lock.....but I have a lighter engine, so the car is less nose heavy! The more you stiffen and lower the suspension and the more thicker the ARB or RARB then the less the car rolls...BUT if the car hits a bump mid corner there is less suspension to absorb the shock, or extend into the dip..and then the inside wheel goes light, and if you are powering out the front driven inside wheel might go light and hop or skip!! Hard suspension and big wheels are fine for a smooth track but not for normal roads!!! Even in some classes of track racing they remove the ARB's to give the car a bit more contact across the full width of both the tyres on that axle!!! In terms of driving style... if the brakes are on then you are pre-loading the suspension and not allowing full use of travel....I try to sort out the entry speed to the corner so slow in and fast out, but some times I trail the brakes to the apex! So long as you are smooth with all the braking as you are trying to keep the car level, front to back and side to side and not overload a particular tyre as the cornering forces add enough loads !!

Basically you have to drive like a nutter and really really commit to bends to get any sort of lift of over steer. I have experienced it very rarely for this reason on public roads. Roundabouts are the safest place to get the hang of the handling characteristics.

But generally dont worry about it - it wont effect every day brisk driving much at all - just make the car more planted and stable around twisties.

I wouldnt think you would, But then I dont brake mid corner, always brake before the corner turn in and only apply full power when you dont have to take it back off. Changing accelaration and braking in mid corner usaully isnt feesible, but people drive in diffrent ways but I wouldnt worry mate just take it easy when you fit one, and have a play around "safely" to find how the car reacts to the RARB and adapt your driving style to not whats quicker but what you feel comfotable with

Edited 29 April, 201115 yr by TorqueXIsXCheap

Nice replies Guys.. Thanks, I almost expected a flaming... But this is Briskoda.. The friendly Forum

I looked up trail braking.. I had no idea I was using a "technique" lol.. it's just how I've always felt safest..

It does say on this wiki page though that it's all about transferring weight to the front.. That seems like it's the best way of loosing the back? lol!

Nice replies Guys.. Thanks, I almost expected a flaming... But this is Briskoda.. The friendly Forum

Any time dude, if you get one let us know how you get on with it, am thinking about spending a few extra £££'s and go for the Jabba bar

Never had an issue with trial braking. If you're on the limit of grip on a wet roundabout then lift off. Then yes you will see it. But you would in an old skool pug.

My personal view is for a fast road and the odd track day then it's all you need.

Nice replies Guys.. Thanks, I almost expected a flaming...

DID SOMEONE SAY FLAMING???... SPEAK BOY!!!

First job on my car was the strut brace that helped allot with the roll next was lowering springs the car felt alot more planted at speed in and out of corners then I fitted the rarb that completed the package for me so much tighter on bends now only down side is you know if you hit a bump but I can live with that

Do it Rob :yes:

Just fitted mine (Standard shocks and springs Strutbrace, Falken ZE912s & on firmest setting)

and its like driving a different car mate... Really is...

Been trying to provoke mine into doing something naughty and despite some heroic attempts at

fast cornering so far nothing scary has happened. If you're worried about stiffening too much

then if you go for the Whiteline it has the 3 settings (as I'm sure you know...) Presumably the effect is

less apparent on the lower settings but its quick and easy to change the settings if you want to build

up to the firmest setting gradually. Was in touch with my mate Mark today and he's ordering one

and driving to Bristol so I can fit it for him. As I said in my thread on the subject, it's amazing

how much difference a bit of metal bar can make. I sooooo wish I'd done this sooner.