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Just going through a few other forums and there's quite a few people complaining about fuel consumption, excessive oil consumption and the DSG box not making it a "drivers car". Now as far as I've seen there hasn't been that much mention of it on here. Seen a few threads here about oil consumption during running in but this is expected of most engines and once it's all run in some use a bit and some don't. I've seen the fuel consumption thread but considering most got the first ones in September and run in when it got colder when more fuel is used this was understandable. But with quite a few on here getting around 40mpg I'm not too worried and if anything it should get better as the weather improves.

Not too worried about the gearbox either. I loved it on test drive and think it's the best of both worlds and with regular posters, Janner, Reavenger and sharkrider in particular loving it especially once it has learnt your style. There's posters on other forums who have one and slag the box off like it's the worth thing ever invented.

So is it as bad as other forums are making out? As far as I can see there hasn't been that many problems with the vRS. Sure people have had high oil consumption but it hasn't been a recurring them so I guess that it does settle down once it's run in. A few have had the odd sensor problem or the DSG throwing a wobbly now and again but it's usually a simple reason. One thing I do want to know is what's the lifespan on a DSG box. Seen on some forums people claiming that once a car reaches 50,000miles it's effectively scrap since it will cost so much to fix. But yet I've seen a few DSG Golf GTI's for sale with around 100k with seemingly no problems. It could just be internet scaremongering but who knows.

Just going through a few other forums and there's quite a few people complaining about fuel consumption, excessive oil consumption and the DSG box not making it a "drivers car". Now as far as I've seen there hasn't been that much mention of it on here. Seen a few threads here about oil consumption during running in but this is expected of most engines and once it's all run in some use a bit and some don't. I've seen the fuel consumption thread but considering most got the first ones in September and run in when it got colder when more fuel is used this was understandable. But with quite a few on here getting around 40mpg I'm not too worried and if anything it should get better as the weather improves.

Not too worried about the gearbox either. I loved it on test drive and think it's the best of both worlds and with regular posters, Janner, Reavenger and sharkrider in particular loving it especially once it has learnt your style. There's posters on other forums who have one and slag the box off like it's the worth thing ever invented.

So is it as bad as other forums are making out? As far as I can see there hasn't been that many problems with the vRS. Sure people have had high oil consumption but it hasn't been a recurring them so I guess that it does settle down once it's run in. A few have had the odd sensor problem or the DSG throwing a wobbly now and again but it's usually a simple reason. One thing I do want to know is what's the lifespan on a DSG box. Seen on some forums people claiming that once a car reaches 50,000miles it's effectively scrap since it will cost so much to fix. But yet I've seen a few DSG Golf GTI's for sale with around 100k with seemingly no problems. It could just be internet scaremongering but who knows.

I'm up to 8600 miles (and have encountered no faults with the car at all) , and have put 1 litre of oil in... not too bad.

I went out this morning, did a total of 65 miles including a 1 hour driving lesson, and averaged 42 mpg....

I love the DSG, I'll never go back to a manual now, assuming its reliable, but I've seen octys sold on here with 100k+ on a DSG box with no issues, so I'm not too worried.

put simply, this is the best car I've ever had :thumbup: (bar maybe my lancia thema turbo.....)

Personally, I love DSG.

As for longevity - I had a car with nearly 60k on it with DSG previously and the gearbox was great.

I think there is a member here who has an Octavia taxi with DSG so that should be a good indicator of long life.

In fact I was thinking about this today...

DSG = Driving Smoothly? Great!

You need to adopt a much smoother approach to driving with this 'box - but do so, and you reap the rewards

One thing I do want to know is what's the lifespan on a DSG box. Seen on some forums people claiming that once a car reaches 50,000miles it's effectively scrap since it will cost so much to fix. But yet I've seen a few DSG Golf GTI's for sale with around 100k with seemingly no problems. It could just be internet scaremongering but who knows.

Some will go forever without a fault, others have had the very expensive failure with the mechatronic unit (over a grand to replace) whilst it's under warranty this is not an issue, but you would need to be either very brave/stupid/confident (delete as you see fit) to own a DSG out of warranty, so it is essential IMO to factor in the cost of an extended warranty for the whole time you will own the car.

For me I wasn't impressed enough with the demo car (too jerky going into 1st and reverse) to pay an extra grand for it.

I have had the VRS for 3 months and only managed to do 1,600 miles but I really like the DSG (had a bit of DSG as my dad has golf 160 bhp with DSG and borrowed that a couple of times) and I would say that if someone came up to me today and said you had to pick DSG or manual for the next car I would put my hat with another DSG already.

As for the oil - I came from an RX8 that used 1 litre per 1,000 miles so any oil usage is light for me. I have put 1/4 of a litre in so far which i would expect some usage on a engine of this type for the first few thousand miles.

Petrol is not a worry for me but a slight disappointment as i am only managing just under 33 mpg when you are lead to believe the car will achieve 40 plus, although Ill reserve myself to make a judgement when the car gets to about 3,500 miles then I would expect it to improve some.

My only real negative is i dont get to drive it too much, use the train for work and wife has another car which she uses with the kids on a day to day basis so mines a weekend/holiday/toy to some extent.

Hopefully this posts adds to the positive feelings I have for the car and the DSG box.

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So providing you keep servicing up on the box it shouldn't be a problem. Is it an oil change every 40000 miles?

DSG boxes are in general very very reliable. I wouldn't actually be worried about keeping one out of warranty. There's a cost to owning any car and any failures that occur out of warranty, it is something one may wish to consider but I wouldn't lose sleep over it. In any case, a two year extended warranty deal at the end of the Skoda warranty currently costs about £560 for the two years (Quentin Wilsons Warranties Direct). And depending what level of cover you go for and what deals are on offer it's even cheaper. But £280 per year on a two year all singing all dancing warranty is pretty good if anyone is worried. It covers just about everything. No mileage limit either.

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Still undecided re the DSG, but perhaps i'm a bit of a ludite. Its nice on the drive to and from work very relaxing, and a general spirited drive, but still not entirely convinced for some good A and B road bashing where at present i would still prefer a manual to get that little more control, even in tiptronic mode. Obviously more practice required.

I like the paddles though, but would prefer to have them fixed to the sterring column rather than the steering wheel, i find it a bit annoying when going round a roundabout on a 1/4 of lock and need to change up. Perhaps i shouldn't shuffle the wheel, and just grip and hang on, but i have never driven like that.

I'm up to 8600 miles (and have encountered no faults with the car at all) , and have put 1 litre of oil in... not too bad.

I went out this morning, did a total of 65 miles including a 1 hour driving lesson, and averaged 42 mpg....

I love the DSG, I'll never go back to a manual now, assuming its reliable, but I've seen octys sold on here with 100k+ on a DSG box with no issues, so I'm not too worried.

put simply, this is the best car I've ever had :thumbup: (bar maybe my lancia thema turbo.....)

apparently the octy does not use the same dsg

Still undecided re the DSG, but perhaps i'm a bit of a ludite. Its nice on the drive to and from work very relaxing, and a general spirited drive, but still not entirely convinced for some good A and B road bashing where at present i would still prefer a manual to get that little more control, even in tiptronic mode. Obviously more practice required.

I like the paddles though, but would prefer to have them fixed to the sterring column rather than the steering wheel, i find it a bit annoying when going round a roundabout on a 1/4 of lock and need to change up. Perhaps i shouldn't shuffle the wheel, and just grip and hang on, but i have never driven like that.

So cant you use the stick instead? + or -

sounds like the answer to me...

the 1.8TSI has the same DSG iirc as do the lower powered petrol octys. the vRS has the 6spd though

Find DSG brilliant in most driving situations. If I'm honest for driving at full-bore on twisty routes its not as good/satisfying as a traditional manual but I don't regret getting it at all... :thumbup:

Still undecided re the DSG, but perhaps i'm a bit of a ludite. Its nice on the drive to and from work very relaxing, and a general spirited drive, but still not entirely convinced for some good A and B road bashing where at present i would still prefer a manual to get that little more control, even in tiptronic mode. Obviously more practice required.

I like the paddles though, but would prefer to have them fixed to the sterring column rather than the steering wheel, i find it a bit annoying when going round a roundabout on a 1/4 of lock and need to change up. Perhaps i shouldn't shuffle the wheel, and just grip and hang on, but i have never driven like that.

why change up a gear around a round about. i presume if your changing up a gear on a roundabout at 1/4 lock you weren't booting it, which begs the question to me as to why you didnt just leave it in automatic. Most of the time in mine the only time i override it is to change down, then ill hold the right paddle in and it goes back into auto.

Find DSG brilliant in most driving situations. If I'm honest for driving at full-bore on twisty routes its not as good/satisfying as a traditional manual but I don't regret getting it at all... :thumbup:

i think its just getting used to it. At first i couldnt throw it down a back road as i wasnt 100% comfortable with it. I think this is why journalists and people on test drives say it brings you away from the control and involvement of a manual. Give them longer to get used to it and they love it. Ive read a few reviews now where journos who have cars with paddles say they love it. Id bet the ones who dont like it have a manual and cant get the hang of it

However now im comfortable with it i think i have ALOT more control and involvement and hand on heart think i could drive this faster, safer and with as much involvement as i could with a manual. and lets be fair at what point does a clutch constitute control or involvement, its just a pain in th ass

im thinking of getting the vrs estate...

the reason... my last 4 cars

1.8 supercharged MX5 - crazy car... had to go vry uncomfortable for a guy my size, mad fun thou

3.0 v6 xtype AWD Jag, AUTO, had to go as it drunk fuel 23mpg and was a lazy auto... not good on back roads

2.0 civic type R GT... two year car... back breaker, and people kept keying it :-( ... (moved house)

2.0 TDCi Mondeo estate - (for house refurb) perfect but slightly boring... got 57mpg on a run but it still averaged down to 44mpg (no aircon) or 38mpg (with air con)

Now...

the skoda, uses all the positives from all the above cars, and its the perfect balance... hoping for around 34-36mpg ish taking it easy MOST of the time.

Twin Charged... well spec'd... FAST... lazy, yet involving DSG (love it)... and economical... ish... plus since im getting the estate version... practical and a 5 door. CHEAP!!!

What more can you get which is non compromising in this category tht offers so much for the SAME.

Ive been looking for months... nothing!!

So cant you use the stick instead? + or -

sounds like the answer to me...

True, but it does not feel natural. As i said, still getting used to it (only driven just over 4000 miles sos far).

True, but it does not feel natural. As i said, still getting used to it (only driven just over 4000 miles sos far).

Well good luck getting used to it... IMO, Auto's are fab... specially if you need to use the phone and dont have bluetooth... lol... jokin!!! ;-)

I dont see the gear box being the problem just the clutch... easier... no?

My car is en route to UK and a friend of my dad's felt sorry for me with no car for a month and has leant me a 1992 Mercedes 190E Auto :) I can get used to the auto easy enough but the handling of this barge is dire! And no bloomin' paddles! :D

I'd love a go in a 190!

Very nice.

I'd love a go in a 190!

Very nice.

Hmm - I'd love a go in merc%20th1880.JPG a 190 cosworth.

not sure about any old 190!

Sorry, the Cosworth version was what I meant!"

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