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Hi guys,

I purchased Eibach front (22mm) and rear (25mm) anti roll bars yesterday. Unfortunately Eibach have a problem with their production, so these wont be available until mid august Ive been told.

As a result, what are my other options regarding antiroll bar choices? Ive had a search of the forum, but H&R is hard to find do to the search parameters.

Ive seen H&R ones, has anyone fitted these to their car? The only concern I have is that the front and rear bars by H&R for the vRS are both 25mm. I thought that the should be thinner than the rear?

Any help, and photos would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Stuart

I've got a whiteline 25mm RARB and plan on fitting the R32 23mm front ARB, this seems to be one of the cheaper options :thumbup:

How much was the kit?

Get the money back and get OEM r32 23mm front and then an eibach 25mm rear(steve wonder is changing his so might sell the eibach)or even get a neuspeed 28 or 25.

Tbh the car I had before had the 23mm front and the whiteline 22mm rear and a few will vouch for how that handled. Extremely wellam

Since I've swapped parts feom it onto mine and gone 28 rear and tbh its a lot more of a handfull.

Good fun tho

get 23 r32 front, and 25mm eibach rear or 28mm neuspeed/autotech rear if you drive hard

eibach front bar is for non vrs models i think, you dont state your car however so it might fit

I have an eibach rear for sale in the for sale ads, and am in kent next to bluey B)

Erm, this myt be a bit of a silly comment but, i was underneath my 03 Octy VRS on a ramp today.... and as standard they dont an ARB on the rear but use a Tortion beam? and i cant see egsactly where this is fitting on.

So with this im afraid i cant help your question but im equally as interested as i also dont understand, as im also lookign to do this mod

yes it has a torsion beam,

the arb mounts onto/over this to suppliment what you already have.

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Well Ive decided to go with the H&R front and rear bars. Theyre both 25mm, but the front is adjustable, so Ill stick that on the softer setting and see how I get on.

Should keep me busy in a couple weeks when Im off work. :)

by going for too thick a front arb and a not thick enough rear you will just promote more understeer....something that this car has in abundance from stock...25mm and 25mm is too similar a size in my experience

h&r and eibach never used to do front arbs for the vrs, for all other models with the inferior arb, like the standard leon or golf they did, but for the vrs not. Did you have a link for the kit you have bought?

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I was concerned about both bars being 25mm too, Im hoping that if the front can be set on its softest setting it will be ok. Originally I wanted to go with the eibach ones but there is a production issue. I ordered them through dpm performance

its just something to keep in mind, as the thicker bar dials out the understeer, however my concern would be there is not enough softness in the 25mm front bar that will then allow for the understeer to be more pronounced

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Yeah its something that helped me to decide on getting the eibach ones in the first place haha. Ill see how I get on with the h&r ones though, worse case Ill just put the original back on the front and sell the front h&r to the Leon Cupra guys.

was gonna suggest sell the front to seat boys if there is a prob, you could always fit the r32 front and sell the eibach on without fitting, that way you know a 23/25mm match is perfect

i know from personal experience as thats what i ran up until recently for about 2 yrs!

  • 2 months later...

Digging this up again.

Just bought a Neuspeed 25mm RARB with 3 point adjustment. I really want to leave the front arb alone. I believe stock FARB is 19mm?

I have a suspicion reading this thread that someone will recommend fitting a 22/23mm front arb R32 etc.

Any comments would be helpful.

23mm front matched to 25mm rear is an almost perfect match, imo 28mm rear with 23mm front is the best i have tried on the octavia.

with a standard front arb and a 25mm rear the car feels a bit week, but its down to personal preference this one.

i had a neuspeed 28mm rear bar put on by the boys at awesome about a month ago, noticed the difference straight away and it goes round corners so much better!

Just fitted Neuspeed 25mm RARB today. set at middle setting for now.

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Quite happy car doesn't feel too different. Rear feels like it turns in better than before to the point of feeling towards oversteer, but breakaway is neutral when it starts to let go.

Digging this up again.

Just bought a Neuspeed 25mm RARB with 3 point adjustment. I really want to leave the front arb alone. I believe stock FARB is 19mm?

I have a suspicion reading this thread that someone will recommend fitting a 22/23mm front arb R32 etc.

Any comments would be helpful.

The FARB is indeed 19mm.

As stated a std FARB with a 25mm RARB is gong to be too soft up front and you will get pronounced understeer.

If you are going to keep a std FARB the whiteline 22mm is the better option.

Next up is a replacement R32 FARB with is 23mm and is a perfect match to the 25mm Neuspeed or even a 24mm Whiteline.

I have a R32 FARB plus 28mm Neuspeed RARB which i initially thought too much, but also have every bush replaced with poly and coilover suspension on low hard setting including Audi TT hubs,wishbone upper and lower strut braces etc that then make the 28mm RARB perfect for my set up. I took a Audi S3 on the outside of a roundabout with this set up, and he looked mighty unhappy. :giggle:

The only time time i realise how good this is, is when I get back in a std VRS and what a difference. :thumbdown:

23mm front matched to 25mm rear is an almost perfect match, imo 28mm rear with 23mm front is the best i have tried on the octavia.

with a standard front arb and a 25mm rear the car feels a bit week, but its down to personal preference this one.

+1 there buddy..

As stated a std FARB with a 25mm RARB is gong to be too soft up front and you will get pronounced understeer.

don't you mean oversteer?

i just instaled weitec hicon gt coilovers and i am extremely pleased with the car's handeling compared to stock.

I have no other mods and a week ago, on an uphill 90 degrees right hander i had lift off oversteer.

The only place i can play with the car is a 8 mile strech of mountain road filled with hairpins and all kinds of corners. I wonder how big of a difference would arbs make...

I'm thinking next of upgrading to poly bushes everywhere and, either stock farb and witheline 22 rarb, or r32 farb and ???? rarb.

a lot of difference, the car has way too much understeer as stock

r32 front arb with a 25mm eibach or 28mm autotech or neuspeed will make for a different car

i just instaled weitec hicon gt coilovers and i am extremely pleased with the car's handeling compared to stock.

I have no other mods and a week ago, on an uphill 90 degrees right hander i had lift off oversteer.

The only place i can play with the car is a 8 mile strech of mountain road filled with hairpins and all kinds of corners. I wonder how big of a difference would arbs make...

I'm thinking next of upgrading to poly bushes everywhere and, either stock farb and witheline 22 rarb, or r32 farb and ???? rarb.

The upgrade to RARB will be better than all those mods you have already done in terms of handling:thumbup:

The fact that you have already done those handling mods will be well complimented by the addition of a RARB.

If keeping a STD FARB, use a Whiteline 22mm RARB or even a 24mm one.

If upgrading STD FARB to a Golf R32 one then as OET stated go 25mm RARB Eibach or Neuspeed, or even 28mm AutoTech or Neuspeed for a very stiff rear end. I like it that way on my set up. :thumbup:

Thanks for your imput.

I'm interested in what billy said on the 3rd post, that he had 23 front and 22 rear. I know the 22 whiteline is adjustable, but can the hardest setting be compared to a 25mm bar, or what ??

no it will not be comparable,

the 25mm eibach is a better bar than the whiteline offering.

23mm front needs a 25mm rear imo or 28mm (preferable)

How much was the kit?

Get the money back and get OEM r32 23mm front and then an eibach 25mm rear(steve wonder is changing his so might sell the eibach)or even get a neuspeed 28 or 25.

Tbh the car I had before had the 23mm front and the whiteline 22mm rear and a few will vouch for how that handled. Extremely wellam

Since I've swapped parts feom it onto mine and gone 28 rear and tbh its a lot more of a handfull.

Good fun tho

I would agree that the 23mm front and a 25mm rear would be a perfect balance. Might slacken off the 28mm one I have from the middle hole and see but I have had the back out a few times lol. Awesome fun and I found it very easy to sence when its going to do it and just how much steering is needed to catch and hold it. Its a sureal feeling. Think I might have to get a cheap old BMW and have some fun in it lol.

The whiteline is by far the best bang for buck mod imo. its the cheapest and is perfectly capable. the 24mm version would be a good bet for the std 19mm front with scope to uprate it to the 23mm in future and just go to a stiffer setting if that makes sence. that is what I would do if on a tight budget.

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  • 3 years later...

Hi guys , having a mk 3 Octavia tdi with torsion beam rear suspension.where can I get a rear anti roll bar for it.

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