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so how do you confimr your firmware and maps versions? there must be some method of diplaying this on the columbus?

You cannot display this info on the columbus by default, you can read the data with VCDS or use VCDS to enable a hidden menu that use access by holding setup for about 15 seconds. If your hidden menu is enabled it will go through the following steps. Setup > Radio Service Mode (this is not the hidden menu) > System setting and Diag screen (hidden menu).

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You cannot display this info on the columbus by default, you can read the data with VCDS or use VCDS to enable a hidden menu that use access by holding setup for about 15 seconds. If your hidden menu is enabled it will go through the following steps. Setup > Radio Service Mode (this is not the hidden menu) > System setting and Diag screen (hidden menu).

ok, so it's a no-go until i get it coded via VCDS then :( ok at least i won't sit in my car like a lemon pressing setup anymore :)..

I was going to get someone to retrofit the MDI interface anyhow so I guess I can get them to uplift the f/w rev on the navigation unit at the same time which was the whole point of trying to work this info out in the first place. I was thinking using OEM Retrofits based in Bradford as they have a mobile fitting service.. has anyone used them in the past on here? Any feedback welcome. (Apologies if i'm hijacking this thread and i can start another if need be).!!

cheers.

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The Rufus

This is one of the few annoying things about my car - even the sat nav unit is mostly very good BUT I'd like to be able to use the proper post-codes!

My Superb is a year old. I got no discs with it...

My dealer quoted £145+VAT for the update disc and mentioned no other option.

It seems pretty poor when a cheap TomTom or similar (less than the price of the upgrade disc?) can do it.

This is one of the few annoying things about my car - even the sat nav unit is mostly very good BUT I'd like to be able to use the proper post-codes!

My Superb is a year old. I got no discs with it...

My dealer quoted £145+VAT for the update disc and mentioned no other option.

It seems pretty poor when a cheap TomTom or similar (less than the price of the upgrade disc?) can do it.

Just take it to your dealer and let them do it you dont need to keep the discs once updated.

You could sit in there car park and do it yourself (no not that lol) just insert the firmware first, following the on screen prompts once done insert map, just keep the engine running to save flattening the battery, if that dealer wont play ball find another it only takes around half an hour to do

Edited by skippy41

Just take it to your dealer and let them do it you dont need to keep the discs once updated.

You could sit in there car park and do it yourself (no not that lol) just insert the firmware first, following the on screen prompts once done insert map, just keep the engine running to save flattening the battery, if that dealer wont play ball find another it only takes around half an hour to do

Firmware (software that is inside the navigation unit) updates cannot be done with engine running but maps can be updated with engine running.

Firmware update requires that no key is in the ignition or otherwise it won't start. Firmware updates bring new features to the head unit and map discs just update the map data (map, poi, etc.) in the navigation section.

Firmware update takes an hour to run and map will copy itself from DVD to HDD in less than that.

There seems to be a few dealers who will updates maps FOC.

I'm yet to find one willing to do Firmware upgrades - I guess because they can't easily get hold of the disks.

You'll probably have to update the firmware yourself.

I'm yet to find one willing to do Firmware upgrades - I guess because they can't easily get hold of the disks.

You'll probably have to update the firmware yourself.

Exactly my experience too. Both dealers in my area deny the existence of ANY firmware upgrades, period. It seems the case that Skoda supply a version of the head unit in the current build specification - and that's that. Later cars may well have later and better firmware, but you will NEVER be offered an upgrade to it by Skoda, because they don't consider it necessary. In spite of the fact that it's common practice everywhere else involving computers to update firmware for the best performance, features, etc., this is not a Skoda customer service policy.

My other car is a Smart Lightshine. I discovered that I had version 8 firmware on the head unit (radio, CD/DVD player, SD card, SatNav, Bluetooth phone - identically featured to the RNS510) by simply pressing the "Product Info" option. When I researched it, I found that the latest version was 9.1, rang the dealer and two days later popped in and waited whilst they updated it and the map data free as it was a new vehicle. During annual service visits, maps are checked and updated if necessary, at a cost.

In this technological age, there really is no excuse for Skoda's policy on firmware upgrades. What's their alternative, a new head unit? I can get firmware updates for free on all my computers (PC and Apple), together with every other appliance that uses a computer (Samsung SMART TV, Panasonic BluRay HD recorder, BlackBerry Torch, Pentax K10D DSLR, Samsung laser printer, etc., etc.), so what's the problem?

Upgrading firmware for the RNS510 unit is practically - but not entirely - foolproof, so dealers need to take responsibility for the process, insofar as the actual physical head unit is capable of it. IOW, it's pointless uploading a firmware version onto a unit that can't take advantage of the features (due, for example, to mechanical or physical advances).

Given most people's current familiarity with technology, it's no wonder that progressive owners seek out firmware that enhances their head unit. Unfortunately, Skoda doesn't accept this and will NEVER provide it. That, nowadays, is totally unacceptable, in my view.

Ray

this is a little OT but thank god you don't have a Toyota. The Nav system in the Prius and Avensis can only be updated by the toyota area rep using a "special" usb cable, and they charge a premium rate for it to, in the region of £200. Nothing available on CD or DVD to do Firmware upgrades and the dealers are clueless. When you check the map information, even if they are old maps, you get what you are given unless you pay for the upgrade. When I had the Avensis it had 2009 maps on and they wanted £250 including labour to update it ..........

Thank god I am back in a Skoda and sites like VW Navi exist :-)

  • 3 weeks later...

I have just updated the map in my Columbus (RNS510) in my Octavia (2008 model)from version 2 (6160) to version 3 (6317).

I put the new disc in and it asked if I wanted to copy the database or use from the disc ... I selected copy.

There was no indication of progress while installing, neither did the machine spit the disc out when done! The map is def updated as I have 5 digit postcodes now which I didn`t have before, but surely the columbus should have let me know when it had finished?? I waited an hour while on a long journey then took the disc out praying that it had all finished

Should I have been alerted by the Columbus at the end of the installation??? Seems weird not to have been??

If you had tried to eject the disk too early, you would have got a message saying that data was still being downloaded. There would also have been a progress bar shown, plus a "Notify" button, which - if pressed - would tell you when it was OK to eject the disk.

Ray

Exactly my experience too. Both dealers in my area deny the existence of ANY firmware upgrades, period. It seems the case that Skoda supply a version of the head unit in the current build specification - and that's that. Later cars may well have later and better firmware, but you will NEVER be offered an upgrade to it by Skoda, because they don't consider it necessary. In spite of the fact that it's common practice everywhere else involving computers to update firmware for the best performance, features, etc., this is not a Skoda customer service policy.

My other car is a Smart Lightshine. I discovered that I had version 8 firmware on the head unit (radio, CD/DVD player, SD card, SatNav, Bluetooth phone - identically featured to the RNS510) by simply pressing the "Product Info" option. When I researched it, I found that the latest version was 9.1, rang the dealer and two days later popped in and waited whilst they updated it and the map data free as it was a new vehicle. During annual service visits, maps are checked and updated if necessary, at a cost.

In this technological age, there really is no excuse for Skoda's policy on firmware upgrades. What's their alternative, a new head unit? I can get firmware updates for free on all my computers (PC and Apple), together with every other appliance that uses a computer (Samsung SMART TV, Panasonic BluRay HD recorder, BlackBerry Torch, Pentax K10D DSLR, Samsung laser printer, etc., etc.), so what's the problem?

Upgrading firmware for the RNS510 unit is practically - but not entirely - foolproof, so dealers need to take responsibility for the process, insofar as the actual physical head unit is capable of it. IOW, it's pointless uploading a firmware version onto a unit that can't take advantage of the features (due, for example, to mechanical or physical advances).

Given most people's current familiarity with technology, it's no wonder that progressive owners seek out firmware that enhances their head unit. Unfortunately, Skoda doesn't accept this and will NEVER provide it. That, nowadays, is totally unacceptable, in my view.

Ray

+1

Phil

What firmware are most of us Superb drivers running? I'm on 2764 with V7.1 Maps.

As I bought a copy of Pimp my nav last week, I'm thinking of giving the 39xx a go, and importing my PocketGPS DB over as POI's.

Hi all,

I am totally new to all this,I have just collected a used '58' Superb Elegance and the Sat Nav came with a V3 map disk but the dealer told me that the Disk has to stay in the Unit for it to work, but I've noticed some people saying it can be stored on a harddrive.

have I got a diffurent Unit or am i missing something ?

I would like a more up to date maps but am I restriced by having to buy a Disk ?

any help ?

The dealer must be a real knob - the SatNav is supposed to run from the hard drive. Take the DVD out, select Navigation. You should get a request to insert the disk, then hopefully a choice between using the disk temporarily, or downloading to the database. Choose the "Download" option and it will chunter away for around 40 - 60 minutes. This is best done whilst driving around, as it's more efficient. HTH :)

Ray

The dealer must be a real knob - the SatNav is supposed to run from the hard drive. Take the DVD out, select Navigation. You should get a request to insert the disk, then hopefully a choice between using the disk temporarily, or downloading to the database. Choose the "Download" option and it will chunter away for around 40 - 60 minutes. This is best done whilst driving around, as it's more efficient. HTH :)

Ray

Hi Ray,

Yer...

I have been talking to someone else just after I posted and they said the same, so I popped the disk and bingo it works with out the disk being present.

I have come to the conclusion the sales guy was a bit of a muppet and has no idea what he was saying.

I just need to figure out how to get an update

thanks

Tim

Hi Ray,

Yer...

I have been talking to someone else just after I posted and they said the same, so I popped the disk and bingo it works with out the disk being present.

I have come to the conclusion the sales guy was a bit of a muppet and has no idea what he was saying.

I just need to figure out how to get an update

thanks

Tim

There are models of Skoda satnav that don't work without the disk - IIRC, Amundsen models don't have a hard drive, so only work with the disk; again, going only from memory (as I have a Columbus and thus a HDD), they do let you copy the important data to an SD card you supply so that you can navigate without the CD.

Perhaps the salesman was confusing the high-end system with its low-end brother?

There are models of Skoda satnav that don't work without the disk - IIRC, Amundsen models don't have a hard drive, so only work with the disk; again, going only from memory (as I have a Columbus and thus a HDD), they do let you copy the important data to an SD card you supply so that you can navigate without the CD.

Perhaps the salesman was confusing the high-end system with its low-end brother?

hi farnz,

you could be right, it's just a bit frustrating, if I hadn't found this web site and not asked a few questions I would non the wiser, You just expect a sale person to have a better knowledge of what they are selling (this was a main Skoda Dealer, not a back street garage),but hay hoe.

Just could do with an updated map now :-)

Remember sat nav maps will never be completely up to date, and some roads seem to take forever to be changed or added, missing several updates. Something like TomTom's map update for the columbus would be useful, even to be able to change a road from 2 way to one way or no through road would help at times.

TomTom quote that roads change about 15% per year. Thats a lots to keep track of, even if it is the A2 or wherever emoticon-0140-rofl.gif

The latest v8 maps the new Kilkenny to Dublin part of motorway is not on the maps still bloody outdated

  • 4 months later...

Do you know where I can get the latest maps in Ireland without paying the ridiculous amount the local Skoda garage in Dublin are looking for ?

  • 3 months later...

I had a problem with mine the other day, not starting etc, bit of Googling and I found the following site.

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=23779.0

Its worked for me 100%, not illegal software, just a guy making the firmware discs available (they are normally service items) and my dealer was not prepared to upgrade.

P.S firmware takes an hour to upgrade, and not sure if it will reformat your HD, so you may lose Maps and music

  • 1 year later...

I have a 2009 Columbus and wondered if anyone has the latest Firmware update on disc and is willing to lend it to me? I can only get 4 digit postcodes and am running v3 of maps.

Cheers

Edited by benjamino

Do you know what firmware your running?? 

  • 3 years later...

Hi Guys

I,m in Ireland, I bought a 2010 supberb elegance 2 years ago and just this week ( I was away) wife had car and the sat nav maps are displaying German maps, how do i get the Irish maps back up and running 

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