I have the 7 speed DSG gearbox in my 1.8 TSI. Good, and very smooth apart from 1st to second which can be a bit jerky depending upon how its driven.

But in manual mode I have a bit of a problem. Up a gear is push forward and down a gear is pull back, but my natural reaction is pull back for up ( 1st to 2nd or 3rd to 4th in a manual car) and push forward for down a gear ( 4th to 3rd etc in a manual car). I cannot be the only person who has the same natural reaction as its the mode adopted in the sequential gearboxes of rally cars.

Does anybody know if there is a way (easy way) of changing the arrangement?

Scott

dont no of anyway but recently my lorry had a service and they gave me a powershift which is just the same and i kept shoving it forward when i wanted to come down a gear

its just a normal thing to do.

I confused the gearbox that much i had to stop a few times and turn it off and let it sort its self out....mercedes benz hgv i dont think so give me back by DAF with a normal gearbox with 16 gears.

I'm sure the early VAG tiptronic boxes were the opposite way to today (ie pull up, push down), it certainly seems un-natural these days.

Up a gear is push forward and down a gear is pull back, but my natural reaction is pull back for up ( 1st to 2nd or 3rd to 4th in a manual car) and push forward for down a gear ( 4th to 3rd etc in a manual car).

I agree this seems the wrong way round but eventually, you will get used to it.

In the same way that those of us of a certain age got used to the indicator and wiper stalks swapping sides in the eighties.

In the sixties, my BSA Gold Flash had a gearlever operated by the right foot - up for downshift and down for upshift.

Its replacement, a BSA Thunderbolt had a gearlever operated by the right foot, but up for upshift and down for downshift.

My next bike had a gearlever operated by the left foot - which is almost universal these days.

I made a few errors along the way, but eventually I got used to them all.

Even now (in my Roomy) I occasionally switch on the wipers when I intend to turn left

Even now (in my Roomy) I occasionally switch on the wipers when I intend to turn left

Don't worry, I was in my wife's Fabia with a manual box and put it into reverse... without the clutch...! Thankfully it just stalled, but I imagine it could have been a lot worse, especially as I had my foot on the brake!

Might be able to reverse the switch wiring? I agree that it seems backwards too.

But in manual mode I have a bit of a problem...

Besides the very confusing VAG-style of this, why manual mode? Towing, downhill or something else?

/Superbjoser

I assume you don't have a DSG wheel with paddles for manual changes? :S

I assume you don't have a DSG wheel with paddles for manual changes? :S

Nope! I assumed the discussion was about the manual mode on the stick. Apparently it was not. DSG wheel on a Superb is not for me.

/Superbjoser

I assumed the discussion was about the manual mode on the stick.

Sorry guys - I assumed the same

Are the paddles set up differently the the stick? Otherwise surely the OP comments would applies regardless...?

Might be able to reverse the switch wiring? I agree that it seems backwards too.

Its the same as a sequencial box on a track car, so it makes absolute sense.

Have to say really enjoy using the box on manual, improving the fuel consumption over the cars choice of gears. Most of the time do leave it up to te car though.

Maybe think of it as, the gear number goes forward (progresses, up) when you push forward and back (down) when you push backwards.

Paddles are Brill. So no problem here. But I do agree it's not quite as intuitive. I look forward to getting rid of our current V50 with Powershift (no paddles or sports mode there) and replacing it with Golf 7 speed DSG with paddles.

I have always thought the lever moves in a logical fashion, that is back for lower gears, in fact to me it would be illogical to have it any other way, funny how people see things differently. Autos have always been set up so lower gears are selected by pulling back but if you want confusion the Mercedes version goes sideways, now that does take some getting used to. I would be very surprised if anyone can get better economy from manual shifting and I am sure the manufacturers would be as well, I know we all think we can get better economy but it just isn't so and one of the reasons for that is the DSG prevents selecting a high gear at low RPM. If I have any criticism of the DSG it is its behaviour in sport mode, hanging onto the upper gears to ridiculous speeds, or so it seems to me. If I back off I want it to change up and instead it stays locked in a lower gear.

For me, I would prefer it to be as per the sensation of being thrown forward under braking (slowing) or thrown backwards under acceleration

For me, I would prefer it to be as per the sensation of being thrown forward under braking (slowing) or thrown backwards under acceleration

A different way to look at that is to say you want it to go faster so you push the gear lever in the forward direction. I think it would be best if it were configurable to the driver's choice, now that could cause some issues for a stranger getting into the car! I have just reversed the movement on our superkart and that has caused some issues as the pilot can't get used to it. We changed it to forward for selecting lower gears as the braking is so hard and short it is easier to push the lever forward than back.

But in manual mode I have a bit of a problem. Up a gear is push forward and down a gear is pull back, but my natural reaction is pull back for up ( 1st to 2nd or 3rd to 4th in a manual car) and push forward for down a gear ( 4th to 3rd etc in a manual car).

Understand what your saying, But what about 2nd to 3rd and 4th to 5th where you push the 'stick forward to go up a gear?

To me it seems natural to push forward to go up a gear, and pull back to go Back down the box.

Should be a MFD option to change the direction