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Warranties - after year 3 - worthwhile or..?

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Tried to find something recent on this

Have Superb Elegance TDI 140 MK1 08 plate and we are a week off its third birthday..

Would appear that there may be problems with DPF's and oil pumps.... although the dealers say they never have heard of such a thing...

Do Skoda offer a branded warranty from their dealers or is it down to the dealer to sort out their favourite and 'white label' it...?

I cant seem to get a sensible answer from local Skoda dealer... the local dealer quoting 399 and 599 for 1/2 years and 90 Skoda Assist on top but cant provide any paperwork....

Warranty Direct - 5 calls today .. as an IFA we cant do that sorta thing with a client so I dont even want to go there... the guy was so sharp...

Warranty Wise... was £480 on the net .... they phoned and will provide Platinum cover for £410... for the one year..

Car done 33000 miles and will do 15K next year... Skoda dealer serviced and a future service paid for..

Are these warranties worthwhile and if so any pointers as to which one...??

Happy Skoda Driver....??. :( ... all this blackmail makes me want to do is to go straight back to Vauxhall..

Thanx in advance..

Tried to find something recent on this

Have Superb Elegance TDI 140 MK1 08 plate and we are a week off its third birthday..

Would appear that there may be problems with DPF's and oil pumps.... although the dealers say they never have heard of such a thing...

Do Skoda offer a branded warranty from their dealers or is it down to the dealer to sort out their favourite and 'white label' it...?

I cant seem to get a sensible answer from local Skoda dealer... the local dealer quoting 399 and 599 for 1/2 years and 90 Skoda Assist on top but cant provide any paperwork....

Warranty Direct - 5 calls today .. as an IFA we cant do that sorta thing with a client so I dont even want to go there... the guy was so sharp...

Warranty Wise... was £480 on the net .... they phoned and will provide Platinum cover for £410... for the one year..

Car done 33000 miles and will do 15K next year... Skoda dealer serviced and a future service paid for..

Are these warranties worthwhile and if so any pointers as to which one...??

Happy Skoda Driver....??. :( ... all this blackmail makes me want to do is to go straight back to Vauxhall..

Thanx in advance..

I got my extended warranty direct from dealer. It was Skoda branded and came with a Skoda Extended Warranty booklet

If you have a 2.0 PD engine in a Mk I Superb you need a warranty which covers catastrophic oil pump drive failure and also DPF blockage - irrespective of how they think you should be driving it. You would need to study the warranty conditions absolutely minutely.

After all this extra warranty cash, at about 80k miles there will then be a big bill for DPF additive.

The 2.0 PD Mk I is a no-hoper in terms of "diesel economy" as the warranty cost + DPF maintenance puts it right off the map. Engine failure puts it off the planet.

The 1.9 was a much better bet - the only sensible engine to have in this car at all.

rotodiesel.

If you have a 2.0 PD engine in a Mk I Superb you need a warranty which covers catastrophic oil pump drive failure and also DPF blockage - irrespective of how they think you should be driving it. You would need to study the warranty conditions absolutely minutely.

+1

I wouldn't dream of owning a MKI Superb 140PD out of warranty due to the above (mainly the oil pump), so I would either get a warranty that would cover the pump and all ancillaries that would be likely to fail if the pump goes .... or sell the car.

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Thanks Mr Sinclair.. have gone and found another dealer and they are coming back with a price as it seems silly to sell this car right now as it has a pre-paid service plan and a new set of tyres.. but I think Mr Gizmos last four words are probably the most pertinent as Mr Rotodiesel's are out of this world... :) <gulp>.. Whilst I love the car, the Skoda experience leaves me quite cold..

Gentlemen.. thanks for the replies....

At the end of the day it's a toss up between getting rid of the car and loosing thousands or spending thousands again on a newer car...personally, it all comes down to the cost of car ownership, you either have to bite the bullet and get a main dealer scourced warranty and keep the present car, or go to another dealer who offers a far more superior warranty but going that route you loose thousands of hard earned pounds. So if a warranty costs say £500 odd quid for a 2yr warranty and the oil pump does pack up, then at least you can argue with the dealer about supplying a new engine, and that alone is a minimum of £4,000 and all of a sudden the £500 quid warranty seems a cheap fix, and let the dealer have the hassle of fixing it.

I know the local dealer's arent directly responsible for the engine damage, but their parent company SUK/ VAG can quite easily scource a new engine and get it fitted. I think main dealer warranties are the safer bet, after all they should know about the car and impending mechanical problems (yeah rite).In my case , we werent in a position to purchase a main dealer warranty, as our car only did 38900 miles, and we assumed the car was good for a few years and be trouble free....how it all went pearshaped i'll never know, just unfortunate information on the oil pump failures wasnt available when we decided to buy our superb, as if id have known about it before hand i would have gone for the 1.9 powered superb full stop!!.

Forgot to add, i'd also probably be heaping praise for the AWX powered superb, rather than come across as a miserable old todger who previously owned a 2.0tdi 140 superb .

Tried to find something recent on this

I cant seem to get a sensible answer from local Skoda dealer... the local dealer quoting 399 and 599 for 1/2 years and 90 Skoda Assist on top but cant provide any paperwork....

I have Spoken to the Skoda Warranty Department and the warranty is for One year only for £399 Including RAC cover. They don't do 2 years for £599

Hope this helps

Andy

Well even if one doubled the cost of £399 its still a pretty good warranty to have if one took it out over 2 years, and a lot cheaper than getting rid of the car and spending thousands of pounds on a new model...with today's ecconomic climate,it makes sense to keep owning the car in question as the only difference is the engines concerned, but that depends on the condition and mileage.And from previous threads, it could be possible that the oil pump problem has been fixed, as i cant see a dealer fitting another oil pump and expecting it to fail again. So my hunch is, that they have sorted the problem out and the engine should be pretty reliable, all bar the dpf issues, and that should only crop up every 80k miles for a top up. As for the superb 2.0 140 tdi, it is just as good as the older AWX engined model as they all suffer from the same issues as mentioned from other owners.Just need a good warranty to keep it on the roads.!

Like roto states, it's just another money making that VW has engineered to part with our hard earned cash, because at the end of the day, the superb is a nice big car for the money.

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Gawd its hard fitting in a full time job..

Local dealership have been to say the least poor... and I just feel that they dont really want to know that old todger with a 140

Managed to get hold of the Beadles guys (who supplied the car) and they quote...

Hello Mr Agent

I have attached the warranty booklet for your perusal, this outlines the exclusions.

I have had a word with the service manager (XXXXXXXXXXXXX) who confirms that the oil pump is a covered item.

The cost of the 12 month extension is £349.00

24 month cover is £549.00

Both will be supplied with matching duration Skoda Assistance package.

Let me know what your plans are as time is running out.

Regards

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Business Manager

Beadles Maidstone

So further thanks to Skodanut... and Mr Auric... they all seem to have varying prices....

So .. will effect the 2 year warranty after reading the warranty booklet..... I do like this car....

....and if anyone wants a copy, I have a 56 page pdf of the Skoda Warranty Booklet that I am happy to email to whoever wants one.. it does have 02 as a reference number which does worry me a little but I do have the above email and as it is FOS that sorts it out (I am an IFA) I feel a lot happier....

And Beadles.. let your guys read these forums... (evidently they are blocked)

I have Spoken to the Skoda Warranty department @ Skoda HQ in the last couple of days and I was Informed that they don't do 2 year deals on extended warranties.

Has this been done as a Dealer Warranty so any claims will have to be done Via that dealer only???

Just to add, I'm not disputing your Information is not correct but there seems to be some conflicting Information.

Have you spoken to The Skoda Warranty Department ??

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I have Spoken to the Skoda Warranty department @ Skoda HQ in the last couple of days and I was Informed that they don't do 2 year deals on extended warranties.

Has this been done as a Dealer Warranty so any claims will have to be done Via that dealer only???

Just to add, I'm not disputing your Information is not correct but there seems to be some conflicting Information.

Have you spoken to The Skoda Warranty Department ??

My info came from Beadles.... as per the italics, that was their reply.... so you may well be right.... I wasnt arguing... :)

Upon Mr Rotodiesels' advice, I went through the 56 pages of warranty and its blo*dy sketchy as to whether it is covered, there really are enough avenues for them to slither out of paying although the FOS will side with consumer in the main....

Anyway, its all history....as it was starting to do me head in...

New Yeti SE Plus turns up on Tuesday...... :o

Warranty runs out Monday... :doh: I'll push it round to the dealer.... :rofl:

Again .. thanks for all the replies and assistance..

Edited by Agent X20

Postman delivered about an hour ago with a letter from Skoda saying my Warranty runs out on 04/07/2011

When you read the " What's not covered " bit there seems to be dozens of get out Clauses

Looks like nothings covered....

My info came from Beadles.... as per the italics, that was their reply.... so you may well be right.... I wasnt arguing... :)

Upon Mr Rotodiesels' advice, I went through the 56 pages of warranty and its blo*dy sketchy as to whether it is covered, there really are enough avenues for them to slither out of paying although the FOS will side with consumer in the main....

Anyway, its all history....as it was starting to do me head in...

New Yeti SE Plus turns up on Tuesday...... :o

Warranty runs out Monday... :doh: I'll push it round to the dealer.... :rofl:

Again .. thanks for all the replies and assistance..

Wise move getting rid, IMO.
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Postman delivered about an hour ago with a letter from Skoda saying my Warranty runs out on 04/07/2011

When you read the " What's not covered " bit there seems to be dozens of get out Clauses

Looks like nothings covered....

That's what I thought after much consumption of the vino rouge... In fact the Marx Brothers were coming to mind...

Groucho Marx: Now pay particular attention to this first clause, because it's most important. There's the party of the first part shall be known in this contract as the party of the first part. How do you like that, that's pretty neat eh?

Finishing up with the Sanity Clause......

Groucho Marx: It's all right, that's in every contract. That's what they call a sanity clause.

Chico Marx: You can't fool me, there ain't no sanity clause.

It is rather worrying when everyone seems to be quoting figures terms and conditions all over the place... :S

As said in me last prose, they sent through the warranty booklet thing ref 7727-0810 A10/02.. if you want a copy then please PM me...

Mkes you wonder if the warranty is same as for the other models in the VW range

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Picked up the Yeti today... Asked about further warranty after the three years was up... quoted as 349 for one and 595 for two .. inc Assist...

Pick a price any price...

Sad to see the old girl go though.. :'(

I bought my 56 plate 140tdi from a dealer and the first year used car warranty was included. Having since found out about the oil pump issue, I renewed again for £390 for another year.

The Skoda warranty looks fairly standard in its exclusions - brake discs, pads, clutch, exhaust, trim etc.

I did check that oil pump failure is included. The only exclusion that worries me given the other known problem of the Superb is : "water ingress (including damage to covered parts caused by water)"

This warranty is only valid up to 80,000 miles.

It's a cost I have to live with I guess. Still it does include UK and European roadside assistance, which would cost me extra otherwise. I like the car otherwise, so I just have to keep an eye on the costs to decide when to get rid of it. DPF has not caused any problems, but I need to set aside some cash to refill it.

That's a huge cost penalty over a 1.9.

Having been lumbered with a 2.0 PD I think you're right to either insure it or sell it. For me, the on-cost of the 2.0 would put it right out of court - no diesel savings whatsoever.

Watch the insurance industry for exclusions. Like the financial organisations and banks, they bombard you with a pile of small-type rubbish knowing you'll never find the vital bit of information. Like VAG, they're not in my experience nice people to deal with.

rotodiesel.

The costs of running either a 1.9 or a 2.0 tdi will be high regardless what engine it has. Given the standard issues both superb models have inherited ie water ingress and damaged ecu's and brake servo's failing, but with a little time and effort those issues can be sorted out.As for mechanical issues then a decent warranty will take care of the parts that do fail and althought the 1.9 is more reliable, the 2.0 tdi will need a bit more care and attention.

Either way both cars are nice to drive, and the latter model that little bit more modernized with the facelift version.It all depends on what you want to pay in running costs. yes the 2.0 will take more money out of your wallet/purse, but you do get an awful lot of car for the money.It's all down to personal preference.

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