I would say that the time has come to remind the supplying dealer about the 'Sale of Goods Act (Implied terms)' - he supplied the vehicle so your contract is with him, and it's not doing what it was advertised to / should do, it's his problem - he should fix it at his expense and he can then discuss reimbursment with SUK!!

Agreed.

Also how stupidly cheap does it make SUK look that they are quibbling about a bulb that has failed early.

It is arguing about minor costs like this that often put off repeat business.

Finally, as someone else has stated, why are they selling the bulb kit for a fraction of the cost of a single bulb that "should" be in the kit anyway.

Isn't much of a spare kit if it doesn't have all the spares in it!

You'll probably find that the P13W bulb is not supposed to be in the kit despite the fact there is a place for it to sit.

I'll bet SUK will say that the DRL bulbs are not expected to blow so not included in the kit.

This is why SUK charge much less for the spare bulb kit than just 1 DRL bulb.

If there was one in the kit it would probably cost another £30

Mind you. if is listed as being there, but then isn't you could have them under the Trade Descriptions Act!

Bulbs, fuses and the like are usually excluded from the warranty as they are considered to be components subject to wear and tear. On a new car, they will consider claims for these items upto 6 months or 6,000 miles or so, I can't see that Skoda parts warranty will add any more to this. As for slinging the car back at the dealer and quoting the Sales of Goods Act, that isn't going to go anywhere as a car was purchased and not a bulb, with no proof of purchase for a bulb and it's for a non obligatory lamp, so doesn't really render the car unfit for purpose.

Car manufacturers will go to great lengths to save a couple of £ per unit, so £30 is a fortune. If the car is as good as you say it is, dismissing the manufacturer out of hand when the time comes to change it over a minor issue as this is could see you driving a car that has real problems.

Agreed FF, and I shall be putting my hand in my pocket to buy a new bulb. However it is interesting to note that they are saying they are now altering the brochure to remove the "long life" comment about these bulbs. Obviously they aren't!!

I wonder how many others have had the same failure?

Bulbs, fuses and the like are usually excluded from the warranty as they are considered to be components subject to wear and tear.

This is true for traditional bulbs, however the P13W DRL bulb is supposed to be long life.

As mentioned previously 'lifetime' is quoted somewhere too.

Skoda need to determine 'long life' or 'lifetime' if they plan to keep it in their literature.

Interesting to note that my local dealer offered to replace them FOC under warranty. Perhaps a lot is down to the discretion of the dealer?

Certainly if I was replacing one out of my own pocket for £36 I'd be a little annoyed if it failed just outside the two year 'parts' warranty.

Since you posted this Graham I have noticed quite a few brand new VW T5 and Caddy vans with only one DRL working!!!!!!!! So VAG must have got a duff batch of these long life bulbs for sure.

Funny you should say that, I too have noticed a couple of VW Transporters with only one DRL working.

Ever so slightly of subject; I had a TT following me for a while yesterday evening with those LED style DRL's, which formed the bottom edge of the main light unit. Noticed that every time they indicated the DRL on that side would dim right down so the indicator flash could be more easily seen. Not spotted that before and thought it was quite

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They brought that in as an acknowledgement that the LED design was making the indicator less than clear to the naked eye. Fair play to Audi for doing something about it with a clever piece of design.

Ever so slightly of subject; I had a TT following me for a while yesterday evening with those LED style DRL's, which formed the bottom edge of the main light unit. Noticed that every time they indicated the DRL on that side would dim right down so the indicator flash could be more easily seen. Not spotted that before and thought it was quite

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I've mentioned this Audi trait on here before! And I have even had that very same option ticked on my Yeti! I have since reverted it back (with Gizmo68's help). On the Yeti instead of dimming the DRL on the side the indicator goes on it completely switches it off and not by dimming it like the cornering lights, but with a sharp on and off. So in the day when I used my indicators the one DRL would just die and I would be standing at a junction or whatever with one DRL on and the indicators flashing. It looked wrong! Hence reverting back.

I think the switch off completely function for the side the indicator is flashing is a must (but only if the DRL is in the same lens as the indicator)

As Johann said, it would look a bit silly on a Yeti.

I too have seen a few TTs with the dimmed DRL function on the indicator side when it's flashing and IMHO the difference between the dimmed DRL and indicator is not great enough, leading to possible confusion.

I too have seen a few TTs with the dimmed DRL function on the indicator side when it's flashing...

And it is not just TTs. Every single Audi out there with LED DRLs has this function. A1 (very few as it is an expensive option), A3 (also very few as it is only an option), A4 (most as some lower models have normal long life DRL bulbs like the Yeti), A5 (again most), Q5, A7, Q7, A8 and R8. To be honest very few TT mark 2s out there have them as only the TT RS used to get the LED DRLs and they whole range have only very recently been upgraded to get them as standard.

Has anyone seen the latest facelifted Porsche 911 with LED DRLs indicating?! The indicators and DRL live on their own in the bumper separate from the headlights but the (extremely bright) DRLs do not dim when the indicators are on and they are blinding. So in daylight I'd wager not a single person will EVER see a 911's indicator being on from the front. A real safety hazzard in my book. Hopefully now they have been taken over proper by VAG someone will show them how to do an indicator and DRL unit's software!

Slightly off topic, but with all the led's being used as well as crap design of rear lights/brake lights, there are many cars, mainly in the VAG group where it is really difficult to tell that they are indicating when braking. Most range rover, Audi and all golfs suffer this. Drives me mad. The design may look 'cool' but when the vehicle has been rear ended because somebody couldn't tell they were turning.......mainly where indicator is 'inside' brake light.

Slightly off topic, but with all the led's being used as well as crap design of rear lights/brake lights, there are many cars, mainly in the VAG group where it is really difficult to tell that they are indicating when braking. Most range rover, Audi and all golfs suffer this. Drives me mad. The design may look 'cool' but when the vehicle has been rear ended because somebody couldn't tell they were turning.......mainly where indicator is 'inside' brake light.

+1 and one of my pet hates.

I've mentioned this Audi trait on here before!

Oops must have missed it

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Every single Audi out there with LED DRLs has this function.

Non LED Audi DRL's also dim when indicating too, namely on the A4...

With all the led's being used as well as crap design of rear lights/brake lights, there are many cars, mainly in the VAG group where it is really difficult to tell that they are indicating when braking.

The A6 Avant is a prime example. Audi see fit to dim the front DRL's to prevent them masking the indicators but seem to have completely ignored the very same issue around the back of their cars that are fitted with LED tail/brake lights.

The indicator is tiny and located slap bang in the middle of a double ring of LED's. This picture just shows the tail / night lights, once the brake lights are on the indicator disappears completely.

At least they look cool

Simply put they are dangerous, makes me wonder what it take to get them E-marked these days.

The Octavia vRS LED DRL's can also be set using VCDS to dim (not turn off completely) when indicating but as the DRL's are lower down well away from the indicator it's not really beneficial.

Thanks for the info on this topic..just found one of my DRL bulbs have blown so P/N info etc is all good.

Just found a Skoda website with them for sale at £29.57 delivered 

http://www.skodaparts.com/basket

Any one know cheaper OEM prices?

Cheers

Just a update on these,Found these on the bay seem like they'll do the job especially as Skoda ones are usually made by Phillips 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360794365148?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649