There's a great hill on the A470 at Merthyr - I usually am always in sport or manual for a hill of that inclination - though I do have a lead foot and I try and hit 80 before the corner :-D that's in diesel octys and my current 1.4 vRS...

I'd suggest dropping to manual - I found in drive that the DSG likes to be conservative - how can it anticipate what's going on external to the vehicle? It cant

I been up that road and not struggled in the the 1.2 tsi DSG. Have you tried road from gilwern up to blaenavon going pass the keepers. If you ever want to test out how good a car is I suggest that road

I havent but I'll have to give that a go!

It seems most people stating they haven't got an issue is possibly because they've got used to the DSG? As I say I can't see how I'd get used to it uphills but who knows? I've done over 2500 miles in a month with it though, and I still feel uneasy about roundabouts and hills with it.

This is a long and good video that show some nice driving with the 1.2 tsi dsg..

Its in japanese I think but u really dont need to know what they talk about..

Sat...It might be a good idea to reset the DSG learning process once 3k miles have been achieved, and if it's still not performing as you feel it should. When the car is new, if you didn't use the power much and the kickdown, it won't have learned properly how to behave and this may account for the delay. It is only a basic learning process but it is important for the car. Of course you dealer would need to do this and he could check the DSG settings at the same time. DSG has performed brilliantly in the cars I have driven to date, including in similar sounding situations to the one you describe. However, also remember in some situations you may need to give it a helping hand to get the best absolute performance from it ie: move the stick shift. I also wonder if you turbo is spooling up correctly. If there isn't enough quick power hitting the gearbox, it won't change down fast.

Sat...It might be a good idea to reset the DSG learning process once 3k miles have been achieved, and if it's still not performing as you feel it should. When the car is new, if you didn't use the power much and the kickdown, it won't have learned properly how to behave and this may account for the delay. It is only a basic learning process but it is important for the car. Of course you dealer would need to do this and he could check the DSG settings at the same time. DSG has performed brilliantly in the cars I have driven to date, including in similar sounding situations to the one you describe. However, also remember in some situations you may need to give it a helping hand to get the best absolute performance from it ie: move the stick shift. I also wonder if you turbo is spooling up correctly. If there isn't enough quick power hitting the gearbox, it won't change down fast.

I bought it when it was 1 year old- and 14k on the clock. Ex europcar motor !

If others havent said it already, learn to drive!! that is all.

(for a more conclusive answer - one should have been anticipating someone maybe turning left, and should not need to slow down right to nearly stop for a turning if one was given enough space for the car in front to turn. One also could have timed it so that overtaking the car does not require slowing down at all by checking mirrors/traffic in advance so they can slip past at the correct time.)

100 odd bhp small car with TSI and DSG not enough acceleration and power for normal conditions? are you serious?

Edit: Reading the thread more about uphills and kick downs. I thought before an uphill your supposed to accelerate first then keep speed during an uphill for best economy, rather than 'accelerate on the hill' as that's physically more work. So perhaps its not DSG error and more of driver error.

If others havent said it already, learn to drive!! that is all.

I take criticism on board but I feel I've done a fair share of driving, throughout europe in a wide variety of cars. However, I must admit the Fabia is my first automatic so it might possibly be me at fault.

I'll keep trying but it would be nice if we could somehow test each others cars to see if we notice the same issue or not. The dealers never really know but to be fair they can't tell how you drive.

And another thing I've just noticed after a small drive- does your DSG box creep forward when on a flat road? Should it? Mine doesn't at all and on the smallest of inclines it rolls back. Shouldn't automatics move a bit when at standstills?

And another thing I've just noticed after a small drive- does your DSG box creep forward when on a flat road? Should it? Mine doesn't at all and on the smallest of inclines it rolls back. Shouldn't automatics move a bit when at standstills?

On a flat road when you lift off the brake the clutch will engage and the car will creep at tickover (not in the same way as a normal auto. The clutch is fully engaged) Same in reverse. On a gentle incline it will roll back briefly before taking up the drive as the HHC won't be engaged unless the incline is greater than ? degrees (I don't know how many).

I suspect your DSG has 'learned' from some too gentle driving. When I first got mine it was a while before I could drive it out of town in gentle start stop traffic and it became a real pig. There were no faults on it and the garage did a full reset making it learn over again. As I had had a few problems and I live 25 miles from the dealer they sent someone to pick it up and then return it. It came back a different car. You learn to live with some lag and adapt your driving but if it starts getting awkward again a decent spirited drive wakes it up again. It may be worth the dealer confirming there are no faults and doing a reset

I appreciate DSG isn't as clever as a human being but then it should come with some form of warning!

Just a couple of things

On page 96 of my owners manual it says...

In certain circumstances (e.g. when driving in mountainous regions or when towing a

trailer) it may be beneficial to select the manual shift programme  page 98 for a short

time in order to adapt the gearbox ratios manually to the driving situations

The description of S mode...

Shifting up later into a higher gear makes it possible to fully exploit the power potential

of the engine. The gearbox also then shifts down at higher engine speeds as in the position

D.

The gearbox does not shift into the 6th gear in the position S, because the maximum

speed is reached with the 5th gear 9).

The Shiftlock on the selector lever grip must be pressed when moving the selector

lever out of the position D into the position S.

Your car has a rev counter to show you what part of the power band engine is in. If the revs are too low you will not get any power so you have several ways to increase the revs, select manual mode and change down a gear, select sport mode so the computer keeps the engine in the power range for longer or push the accelerator to the floor to engage the kickdown function.

A DSG gearbox is not the same as an auto, that is why the owners manual has one section entitled "Information for driving with the 6-speed automatic gearbox" and a section entitled "Information for driving with the automatic gearbox DSG". However, as others have said you should experience some creep when on a flat road in reverse or when you take your foot off the brake with a forward gear selected.

The DSG gearbox is a computer running a set of rules based on sensor inputs. If you want to override the rules then you have the controls to enable this (within certain limits).

So the fact it doesn't creep forward indicates a problem? I doubt it was driven gently from new, it used to be a hire car after all!