I've never really been happy with the car up hills. The greatest illustration has just happened. 2 lanes, guy in front turns- so I need to overtake but traffic is in that lane, so I slow right down to less than 5 mph and almost to a stop. Then foot down- nothing happens for what seems an eternity! 2 seconds later and it takes off- but the guy behind me toots me to buggery. He was damn right.

Anyone else noticed this?

can you use the stick to shift into second as the guy in front of you was turning? (I know you don't have paddles, but can change on the stick right?)

I had no problems with the DSG set up and I live in the south Wales valleys and the car is pity good in D mode. One road in particular is quite steep with a 90' bend and a 180' bend and you have to slow down but pulls away ok in D. Try reinacting the same senario again on the same stretch of road if possible and drop it into S to see if it's better.

1.2 TSI 105 manual is fine up hills

I've never really been happy with the car up hills. The greatest illustration has just happened. 2 lanes, guy in front turns- so I need to overtake but traffic is in that lane, so I slow right down to less than 5 mph and almost to a stop. Then foot down- nothing happens for what seems an eternity! 2 seconds later and it takes off- but the guy behind me toots me to buggery. He was damn right.

Anyone else noticed this?

You've experienced the DSG lag that is so widely reported and I too have experienced. I pop it into S when it looks like a situation is developing. The problem is not a shortage of power.

Could it be depending on how you drive the car? I drive my car lika an old man, slow acceleration, never pushing it, keeping steady speed etc. I do experience the DSG lag from time to time, especially when slowing down before a speedbump.

My mother has the same setup in her new (used) car, that was a former Demo/courtesy car from skoda. Her`s didn`t have any lag at all in the same situation.

My conclusion is: My car has adapted to my driving style = economical, highest ger possible all the time. My mothers have lived a life with daily abuse from speed wanting drivers that doesn`t care about the car = sport.

As i read from the manual the box has two different modes in "D" depending on how you drive, sport and economical. If you drive economical it will set economical as "standard" and then shift to sport if you push the pedal quickly etc.

Could this cause the lag, as my box is set to economical (highest gear possible) and i hit a speed where both 2nd and 3rd gear would work (slowing down for a speed bump), the car thinks that i want to use 3rd gear and then shift to 4th (cruising), but actually i want to accelerate, then it has to change 4th to 2nd and then shift from 3rd to 2nd before it allows me to pull away.

Putting the stick in "S" affects this as it uses a lower gear all the time for maximum power/acceleration)

Just an idea, but it would explain that the lag appears in my car but not in my mothers (same production month)

The car "wanting to be economical" seems to be the issue. As much as i appreciate economy, I really don't think being in 5th or 6th on a hill is the way to go, I appreciate DSG isn't as clever as a human being but then it should come with some form of warning! This lag is borderline dangerous in certain situations- I will try S mode and report back.

Edited 12 August, 201114 yr by sat1983

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suprised no-one has bitten their hand off yet (If you'll excuse the pun!

I agree with whats been said by the OP, the stock 1.2 does seem to have issues crawling up steep slopes.

It will struggle then downchange and fly up at a rate that wasnt requested, which can be quite scary.

Where i live i park the car on B2 (2 floors underground) everyday i go up 2 very steep slopes and my Yeti struggled wether fully loaded with people or just me and seats removed etc.

But since getting it remapped, the car just flys up no problem, torque kicks in a few 100 rpm sooner and it has alot more of it.....

So consider changing cars or mapping your engine.

Edited 12 August, 201114 yr by Yeti-RS

I agree with whats been said by the OP, the stock 1.2 does seem to have issues crawling up steep slopes.

It will struggle then downchange and fly up at a rate that wasnt requested, which can be quite scary.

Where i live i park the car on B2 (2 floors underground) everyday i go up 2 very steep slopes and my Yeti struggled wether fully loaded with people or just me and seats removed etc.

But since getting it remapped, the car just flys up no problem, torque kicks in a few 100 rpm sooner and it has alot more of it.....

So consider changing cars or mapping your engine.

Glad I ain't the only one to have noticed this. You'd think you wouldn't need a remap!

If its holding to high a gear could you not just put it in sport before the hill. Lower gears more power etc.

Had no problems with mine - just done 800 miles from Kent to Cornwall and back and can't fault the DSG. Maybe a bit too keen to drop one too many cogs but I can get over that.

Had no problems with mine - just done 800 miles from Kent to Cornwall and back and can't fault the DSG. Maybe a bit too keen to drop one too many cogs but I can get over that.

Dont u have a vrs? this is for the 1.2 TSI DSG 105HP.. not the 180HP

With 180HP I dont think u have a problem up hills

Edited 13 August, 201114 yr by xcyber

I think it's a case of getting to know the DSG intimately, in all situations that counts. This can take quite a while as some experimentation is required. Also, the DSG basic learning process is going on to start with which may complicate things. Studying the manual should help though. Once you know how to drive it (no slur on anyone's driving skill intended) in these situations there really isn't a problem in my experience. DSG is brilliant...if only they did it on the diesel versions of the Fabia, I'd have one tomorrow. :yes:

I think it's a case of getting to know the DSG intimately, in all situations that counts. This can take quite a while as some experimentation is required. Also, the DSG basic learning process is going on to start with which may complicate things. Studying the manual should help though. Once you know how to drive it (no slur on anyone's driving skill intended) in these situations there really isn't a problem in my experience. DSG is brilliant...if only they did it on the diesel versions of the Fabia, I'd have one tomorrow. :yes:

I know what you're saying but I struggle to see how anyone can get used to a car which insists on being in such a silly high gear on a steep hill!!! No wonder I can't accelerate- the car is nowhere near it's powerband. Would you ever start accelerating in 4th or 5th on a hill in a manual when you slowed right down a few seconds before to 20 mph?

Dont u have a vrs? this is for the 1.2 TSI DSG 105HP.. not the 180HP

With 180HP I dont think u have a problem up hills

True, but even a 1.2 TSI should be able to get up a hill without being tooted

Now parking, I could get tooted for that!

I know what you're saying but I struggle to see how anyone can get used to a car which insists on being in such a silly high gear on a steep hill!!! No wonder I can't accelerate- the car is nowhere near it's powerband. Would you ever start accelerating in 4th or 5th on a hill in a manual when you slowed right down a few seconds before to 20 mph?

The DSG should realise you're on a hill - does it not change down on a slight incline? If not just probe the accelerator and off you go

True, but even a 1.2 TSI should be able to get up a hill without being tooted

Now parking, I could get tooted for that!

Yes I belive it shuld be able to get up hill.. but there is a big different with 180HP/105HP.

180HP have betther torque in low speed

If it wasnt because of those bandits in Norway (the goverment). - that steal our money with higher taxes for higher HP.. I would buy a vrs today..

instead I have to buy the 105-model.. (about 100.000NOK less taxes).

True, not driven a 1.2TSI so no idea where the power is. vRS has the Supercharger to give it some oomph before the turbo so I guess it's all about the gearing.

Saying that, I was in 7th yesterday, stuck behind a van for about 15 mins, found a nice hill and used kick down - it dropped to 4th and literally took off

The DSG should realise you're on a hill - does it not change down on a slight incline? If not just probe the accelerator and off you go

When i do this- dsg box pauses for 2 seconds then it takes off like a rocket, there is seemingly no way of making smooth progress on a damn hill!!!

Hmm, that sounds like the kickdown, which is what it should do. It should drop a (one) cog when you gently press the loud pedal going up hill, actually, it should do it by itself - noticing when the revs and speed are dropping it drops one or two. It takes a bit of getting used to the dsg though.

I had no problems with the 1.2tsi on hills. Even on slight inclines it drops down a few gears and even doing down hill it's drops down as well. Have to took it in to see if there's any issues with the software. I find as the more miles I'm putting on it as well it justs gets better

I asked for a video of this engine a lifetime back that show how to drive this rocket smoothly.. but none with the fabia 105 DSG wants to make one..

Instead one with the vrs maked one (but thats not of interest because of the high HP of the vrs).

How many in this forum have the fabia 105DSG? and how many have the vrs?

dont think so many have the 105DSG...

There's a great hill on the A470 at Merthyr - I usually am always in sport or manual for a hill of that inclination - though I do have a lead foot and I try and hit 80 before the corner :-D that's in diesel octys and my current 1.4 vRS...

I'd suggest dropping to manual - I found in drive that the DSG likes to be conservative - how can it anticipate what's going on external to the vehicle? It cant