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I recently purchased a new Fabia 1.2 Tsi and would like to know if it is possible to fit traction control to it and if it is does anyone have experience of doing it or any instructions etc? Many Thanks

I thought it already had traction control

But if not you could always get a racelogic set up but they are expensive.

If your car has abs then there must be a way to enable it if no abs youll need an abs pump which is very expensive and not worth the time

Thought it would already have traction control to be honest.

Also, another Prestonian, welcome!

No its not standard, I was wheel spinning in 2nd and 3rd today in the wet! Bad Tyres and definatly cost cutting in not making it standard. Obviously I stepped off the right foot but it supprised me even with continentals!

Would love to know if its possible :-)

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No its not standard, I was wheel spinning in 2nd and 3rd today in the wet! Bad Tyres and definatly cost cutting in not making it standard. Obviously I stepped off the right foot but it supprised me even with continentals!

Would love to know if its possible :-)

Yeah me too, you'd think that a front wheel drive car with a turbo and a sensitive fly by wire throttle should definitely have traction control as standard

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and I'm not looking forward to Winter without it.

A set of winter tyres will be far more effective than summer tyres and traction control.

Cheers

Lee

Going to be brutal but you just need to learn how to drive off properly rather than rely on electronic aids. Traction control will not help you move off any more rapidly, if you invoke wheel spin it will just cut power to get back under control.

Find a quiet section of road in the wet and practice rapid starts you will get a feek for the point it starts slip.

Traction control will not help you move off any more rapidly, if you invoke wheel spin it will just cut power to get back under control.

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If the traction control system has EDL then it will provide you with more traction and a faster get away on poor surfaces as it brakes the spinning wheel and transfers torque to the wheel with traction. Only works at slow speeds.

If the traction control system has EDL then it will provide you with more traction and a faster get away on poor surfaces as it brakes the spinning wheel and transfers torque to the wheel with traction. Only works at slow speeds.

One of my previous cars was an Octavia 1.8t auto, to which I fitted Pirrelli P6000s all round - hardly a winter tyre, which has asr and edl. That tackled surprisingly thick snow with some conviction, using the "foot flat down and let the computer sort it out" method I never got stuck, even crossing some steep hills on country roads in such conditions on our way to a maternity unit on one occasion (all main roads were shut with accidents!).

One of my previous cars was an Octavia 1.8t auto, to which I fitted Pirrelli P6000s all round - hardly a winter tyre, which has asr and edl. That tackled surprisingly thick snow with some conviction, using the "foot flat down and let the computer sort it out" method I never got stuck, even crossing some steep hills on country roads in such conditions on our way to a maternity unit on one occasion (all main roads were shut with accidents!).

Exact opposite on my Passat with Conti's. Road to my house is a slight incline and never gritted. The Conti's with only 2k miles on them could only get me 20 metres up my street. ESP, ASR and EDL would eventually bog the engine down to tickover due to the lack of traction.

24 hours later with narrower Pirelli Sottozero winter tyres on I drove up the half mile street without the traction light flashing once. Unbelievable transformation. I also had to brake and swerve to miss an Eddie Stobbart lorry starting to jacknife on the M1. One car hit the central reservation, two lorries collided, the Stobbart wagon ended up down the banking off the motorway and I just braked and steared around it all. If i'd had the summer Conti's on i would be looking at a big insurance premium this year.

Cheers

Lee

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I have considered the Winter tyre option but wasn't sure what sizes and makes etc, the present set up is 17 inch wheels with 205 tyres but I know you can't get winter tyres in the same size so I will have to go for a different diameter, also do you have to use different wheel fixings if you use steel wheels rather than alloys?

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Going to be brutal but you just need to learn how to drive off properly rather than rely on electronic aids. Traction control will not help you move off any more rapidly, if you invoke wheel spin it will just cut power to get back under control.

Find a quiet section of road in the wet and practice rapid starts you will get a feek for the point it starts slip.

I have a pretty good idea how to set off properly but even if I spend all day doing practice starts they won't help me on black ice or a bit of spilt diesel on a bend which is when the traction control really becomes useful, it's a bit like saying I should practice cadence braking so I don't need ABS

I have considered the Winter tyre option but wasn't sure what sizes and makes etc, the present set up is 17 inch wheels with 205 tyres but I know you can't get winter tyres in the same size so I will have to go for a different diameter, also do you have to use different wheel fixings if you use steel wheels rather than alloys?

Pirelli would like to have a word with you...

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Pirelli would like to have a word with you...

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Does this mean that I can get 205/17 winter tyres? Because Skoda customer care say that you need 14 or 15 inch wheels and narrower tyres

Does this mean that I can get 205/17 winter tyres? Because Skoda customer care say that you need 14 or 15 inch wheels and narrower tyres

Yes.

I have some Nexen Wingaurd Sport winter tyres on order from mytyres in 205/40/R17

Does this mean that I can get 205/17 winter tyres? Because Skoda customer care say that you need 14 or 15 inch wheels and narrower tyres

Narrower the better when it comes to winter tyres, it's contact pressure you need and a high tyre profile is better.

But wheel size depends on engine fitment as engine fitment determines brake size. Have a look what tyre sizes are in your fuel filler cap.

Smaller engines can fit 14" wheels with 165/70 tyres. Higher output engines have to fit 15" wheels with a range of tyre sizes available. The vRS I believe needs 16" wheels but not 100% sure.

I've gone for 165/70x14's on my wife's htp, they look really skinny. On the 1.2TSi we are having 185/60x15's.

Skinny Winters.

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Cheers

Lww

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To conclude this post I have bought a set of Skoda 15 inch steel wheels and 185/70 Avon Ice Tourings, although it's not a good look on a Monte Carlo this change has transformed the car. The roadholding is better by a long way, the ride quality is far better and road noise is greatly reduced, by far the most impressive change though has been the fact that when I want to set off quickly the car grips and goes like it never did before. I can't help thinking that Skoda have fitted the wrong wheels to this car in the first place, although the 17 inch alloys and very low profile tyres look great in the showroom, their level of grip is lower than normal sized tyres because the engine weight is low meaning there isn't enough down force on the wide tyres to really get the best out of them. I am seriously considering buying a smaller set of alloys for Summer too as I am enjoying the car so much better now that it grips the road properly. My suggestion to Skoda is to save the big wheels for the VRS and put some 16 or even 15 inch alloys on the Monte Carlo, it will still look good and it will stick to the road too. Just going back to Briskodian's comment, although this may be of no benefit to him as he is such a good driver, ESP is becoming standard on all cars in the UK in 2014. Thanks for everone's input, have a safe Winter and a Great Christmas, Montecarlo :-)

Currently running our Elegance TSI 85 on Skoda 15" Line alloys and 195/55 Avon winter ST's. These will go on the Monte when it hopefully arrives in a few weeks time (fingers x). My lads Fabia II also runs 195/55 winters; standard size for his anyway but Bridgestone Blizzaks, however I prefer the Avons.

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Oh our Fabia has ESP+ his not and it does make a difference even with winters. Ordered the new MC with the same option, although it should be standard if your reading this SUK :smirk:

TP

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