"Winters offer 41% more lateral grip" - Yes but 1.41*bu99er_all is still bu99er_all!

Yokohama advertise that they make dries, wets and Winters (based on ad running in Autosprout) so do you Winter tyre advocates carry a complete spare set of rims and tyres and change when it starts and stop raining? Thought not!

My Toyo's are "drys???...defo "summers".....but you are forgetting the main reason why we "winter tyre advocates" love them....The rubber used in them out performs that of "non-winter" tyres at any temp below +7C.........simples really.

Oh and if you tried it...you would eat your hat belive me....I spent 14 ish yrs making do on good "all weathers".....the last two winters have been unreal...so safe....wish I'd got them years ago...wouldn't have crashed my last car 11yrs ago in winter at 33mph (in a 60)...if I'd have had "winter" tyres on!

The top 5 results from Evos recent test were:-

1. Continental ContiWinterContact TS 830 P (90.5%)

2. Michelin Alpin A4 (90.4%)

3. Pirelli Sottozero W240 Serie 2 (90.1%)

4. Goodyear UltraGrip Performance 2 (89.5%)

5. Vredestein Quatrac 3 (all-season) (89.0%)

http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/274042/evo_2011_winter_tyre_test_the_intro.html

He wasn't too impressed but he is a neighbour so tried not to gloat too much. He did say "I didn't realise you had a 4x4 Octavia " or something like that. LOL

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The top 5 results from Evos recent test were:-

1. Continental ContiWinterContact TS 830 P (90.5%)

2. Michelin Alpin A4 (90.4%)

3. Pirelli Sottozero W240 Serie 2 (90.1%)

4. Goodyear UltraGrip Performance 2 (89.5%)

5. Vredestein Quatrac 3 (all-season) (89.0%)

http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/274042/evo_2011_winter_tyre_test_the_intro.html

Had four Continental Wintercontacts TS830P's fitted last week to the Octy vRS (225/18/40). Chose them based on Evo's review.

Will write a review on here once we've had a cold spell!

just seems Rainsport 2s = £350

Nokian D3 = £550

Nokian A3 = £650 speed rating dependent tho

Nokian W+ 225/45/17 @ £107.70 each £480.80 delivered

They are WINTER tyres though not SNOW tyres!

No they are a highly regarded Scandinavian tyre (I did my research before buying them)

good to know, thanks.

I'll have a nose at the w+ too then

I have tyres rated the same as my summer tyres and went for Vredestein Extremes. Rated at up to 168mph

As for 5% grip better??? They are light years better when the going gets really tough. I noticed that you don't quite get the sharpness that you would be used to on summer tyres in the dry, but you get so much more everywhere else. Winter tyres are better in the wet/ice/snow by a country mile, so I think the slight trade off when the roads are bone dry and not too cold is easily worth it.

What are these bone dry roads of which you speak????

;-)

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get some Nankang SV-2 on them mate, 205 50 17 from My Tyres £270.40 for the set. mine should arrive next week which gives me time to totally use the Michelin Pilot sports up.

your best off getting the narrowest tyres for winter, plus 205 50 are the OE spec

Cancel what I said, ordered on the 28th Nov and got the tyres today lol. Now that was fast!

Another thanks to MyTyres.

They look good too.

Billy

They are light years better when the going gets really tough. I noticed that you don't quite get the sharpness that you would be used to on summer tyres in the dry, but you get so much more everywhere else.

Exactly my experience. I bought my Goodyear Ultragrips in Jan 11 so haven't seen a single bit of snow, but on colder, wet and generally slippery roads, they give you a huge amount of extra confidence compared to my summer tyres.

The only pitfall is that the extra confidence tempts you to push that bit more and so the risk of driver error goes up.

Edited 2 December, 201114 yr by Shroud

Put cooper weathermasters on mine just after the snow went , but after the snow came the ice and when you can drive down an icy road thinking that it was just wet and fall on your bum getting out of the car onto the "wet" tarmac you realise just how good winters are lol

Every time I read "Nokian" I hear "Nokia"